Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

You shouldn't release another dmsi update unless you actually get laid with a few attractive girls which you haven't from your journals. Your journals and only full of iois and kept saying you could have banged some but never did and gave excuse after excuse for not even banging one girl. You should have never released this product if you yourself haven't gotten laid from it.

P in the V is the only IOI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I guess we have to listen to Sash on this one. No more updates or releases to DMSI until I get P in the V. A few different times. With girls he finds attractive. (Not women, of course, they're probably too old for his taste.) After all, my journal is only full of IOIs and I kept saying I could have banged her but never did and gave excuse after excuse for not even banging one girl. I should have never released this product If I myself haven't gotten laid from it.

Okay, Sash. I'm following your advice. No more updates or releases of DMSI until I finish 3.0 and get laid with at least three different girls (not women) who you find attractive. I'll let you know when I have pictures for you to approve for me, so I can know if they qualify.

In the mean time, guys, sucks to be you. It'll be a few months. Maybe. Might take longer. Can't release 2.3 or 2.4 now, obviously.

I can't tell if your being sarcastic or serious here.

It's awesome that you believe that 3.0 will definitely accomplish the design goals. That's exciting! And it's great that you will thoroughly test the program to get it where you and your customers want it to be. However, if you do keep the testing exclusive to people who aren't apart of this forum, please use just as varied a sample size as what is currently on the forum. Like some users haven't had results yet like CatMan and Swisston, while others like Minititan have had at least 1 experience that is exactly what we're aiming for. As long as there's variety in the testers, the data should be accurate for an idea of final release results.

See my post above that you missed.

I do not believe 3.0 will definitely achieve the design goals. I believe it is most likely going to - but we may have to do 3.1, 2, etc. to work out kinks, and maybe even 4.x.

But I am about 98% sure that in the end, we will succeed. Otherwise I would not be willing to put in all this time, and effort, and give away free upgrades all over the place in the process.

I was a bit slow posting from my smartphone.

I would totally enjoy being a part of the DMSI testing myself, but I gotta finish E2. I think making the testing open like this was the best way to go about getting the necessary data for tweaking and refining the sub so it'll succeed. It just seems like maybe the next time (if you ever do it again), you should have a few pages with the words "BETA TESTING" covering them. It seems like a lot of people didn't take the necessary time to read that it's experimental before purchasing.

I do believe it says that on the product description page...

[maxx55]

Well, I guess we have to listen to Sash on this one. No more updates or releases to DMSI until I get P in the V. A few different times. With girls he finds attractive. (Not women, of course, they're probably too old for his taste.) After all, my journal is only full of IOIs and I kept saying I could have banged her but never did and gave excuse after excuse for not even banging one girl. I should have never released this product If I myself haven't gotten laid from it.

Okay, Sash. I'm following your advice. No more updates or releases of DMSI until I finish 3.0 and get laid with at least three different girls (not women) who you find attractive. I'll let you know when I have pictures for you to approve for me, so I can know if they qualify.

In the mean time, guys, sucks to be you. It'll be a few months. Maybe. Might take longer. Can't release 2.3 or 2.4 now, obviously.

I can't tell if your being sarcastic or serious here.

It's awesome that you believe that 3.0 will definitely accomplish the design goals. That's exciting! And it's great that you will thoroughly test the program to get it where you and your customers want it to be. However, if you do keep the testing exclusive to people who aren't apart of this forum, please use just as varied a sample size as what is currently on the forum. Like some users haven't had results yet like CatMan and Swisston, while others like Minititan have had at least 1 experience that is exactly what we're aiming for. As long as there's variety in the testers, the data should be accurate for an idea of final release results.

See my post above that you missed.

I do not believe 3.0 will definitely achieve the design goals. I believe it is most likely going to - but we may have to do 3.1, 2, etc. to work out kinks, and maybe even 4.x.

But I am about 98% sure that in the end, we will succeed. Otherwise I would not be willing to put in all this time, and effort, and give away free upgrades all over the place in the process.

I was a bit slow posting from my smartphone.

I would totally enjoy being a part of the DMSI testing myself, but I gotta finish E2. I think making the testing open like this was the best way to go about getting the necessary data for tweaking and refining the sub so it'll succeed. It just seems like maybe the next time (if you ever do it again), you should have a few pages with the words "BETA TESTING" covering them. It seems like a lot of people didn't take the necessary time to read that it's experimental before purchasing.

I do believe it says that on the product description page...

I meant that people seemed to miss it since they didn't read.

[Shannon]

It's kind of posted right up top... they really had to not read.

[Shannon]

edit; I just remembered "Somewhere in the world, people are walking." So it would definitely show on frequencee. I would love to see this experiment but I know your subs work from experience.

If I make a subliminal of just the trickling stream, and the trickling stream is what is made subliminal, it should appear identical to any other subliminal ultrasonic also.

[DarthXedonias]

I feel kinda of let down their won't be anymore open beta testing after the DMSI series is done but I freely understand why. I admit, I haven't been the "best" tester as far as reporting mostly because I've only felt like reporting when theres something noticeable that happens or offering suggestions about how it might be made better in a few different threads. The thing though is, and why I can understand why there won't be anymore beta testing, that it seems like almost daily when I've logged on the forums all I see is people (Mind my language) "B!tching and complaining" about DMSI not working or that this version isn't as good as other versions. I admit myself that I didn't get as much external results from 2.2 as 2.1 (though the internal results were pretty good) but at the same time people have to realize this is called "Beta testing" for a reason. We test it, if theres a problem we then give constructive criticism to Shannon, and then he goes and fix/upgrades it when he has the time to. That way different from what we've seen lately where people are constantly complaining about not seeing results and not offering any suggestions whatsoever. If you want results right away the easiest thing to do would be to not buy the beta test version and then wait til the final proven version comes out so you can be sure your getting your moneys worth. If not then stop complaining and actually offer suggestions on how to make it better.

For example, I've seen that Steven hasn't gotten the results he wanted but instead of complaining constantly I see him constantly offering suggestions and ideas on how to make it work better.

Anyway, that's all I have to say on this. Less complaining, more ideas and suggestions.

[Shannon]

At this point, I don't need more ideas for 3.x, I need to better understand how the 2.x series works and why so I can make the adjustments necessary. So we can start working on 3.x. and if I could achieve the primary goal in 2.x, even better.

[mat422]

Shannon I'm sorry you have to put up with all that. If you stopped at 4G your stuff would still be amazing and by far the most advanced stuff I've ever encountered. Just know that me and plenty of guys on this forum greatly respect what you do and are grateful for all the advancements you've made. Regardless of any stupid criticisms made, I'm still amazed at your strides in this technology.

[Frosted]

Shannon, you should think about holding a get together after you release ASC 6g, to celebrate 6g. Sort of like a subliminal conference thing. I think that would be awesome to see some of the faces on here irl and see what everyone's like after years of self developement through subliminals. It would be cool if yearly parties were held and we could all show up and notice how much we've all changed from the last time we all met up. Btw you should let us all stay on your couch, hotels are expensive teehee.

[ncbeareatingman]

I swear!! Everything Matt said here I say as well and feel too! Kudo's and mucho thanx Shannon! Keith. 8/17/16


Shannon I'm sorry you have to put up with all that. If you stopped at 4G your stuff would still be amazing and by far the most advanced stuff I've ever encountered. Just know that me and plenty of guys on this forum greatly respect what you do and are grateful for all the advancements you've made. Regardless of any stupid criticisms made, I'm still amazed at your strides in this technology.
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[chaosvrgn]

It's 3am here on the East Coast and I'm exhausted. Gonna make this quick. I had a date tonight. It's been planned for awhile. Leonidas can verify, we've chatted about it earlier this week. After all the conversations today, I decided to revisit DMSI v1 (back when it was AOSI). Ran two loops.

You can f*cking scream "placebo" or that I'm making it up all all you want, but that was the nastiest, rawest, roughest sex I've ever had in my life. Or at least that I can remember. Had a lot of drug and alcohol fueled sex back in Cali. My d*ck is raw. I won't be having sex for awhile.

I took my "AURA OVERLOAD" mix of L-Glutamine + Fish Oil + Uridine + B-Vitamins + ALCAR. I also added half a caffeine pill. That f*cking caffeine must've done something, because this aura was absolutely INSANE.

Matched with "K" (6.5 - 7/10) on Coffee Meets Bagel (dating app). She's a "good girl" type with a bubbly, giggly nerdy appeal that just graduated from nursing school and had just moved to the city. Just got out of a six year relationship. Her boyfriend was cheating on her with chicks from Tinder. We met up at my favorite spot, a Great Gatsby themed speakeasy. It's a really, really romantic spot with some original and interesting cocktails.

We sat on the sofa, chatted for awhile. I did my usual gambit -- be mildly offensive in a hilarious way. She was REALLY shy. Was throwing me off because she wasn't giving any IOIs. I don't think the autopilot was in v1, but I was still relaxed and intensely focused on her. It's like my intuition was enhanced. Realized that she wasn't letting her guard down (ASD?), so I decided to take her on a tour of all the local "hot spots." While we were walking around, I initiated basic kino -- took her hand, had her take my arm, etc. etc. She was extremely receptive to all it, there was never a moment when she pulled away or didn't want to touch me. She was just waiting for ME to make that move (hint, hint).

So, I took her to my other favorite spot, an underground liquor bar that's hidden inside of a restaurant / bar / dance floor. Seriously, there's a hidden door near the bathroom (looks like a wall) that opens to a staircase. It has that "exclusive" feel to it because you've normally gotta get invited to get in when it's packed. However, my cousin is best friends with the bartender there and she let me in. Very dark, great ambiance.

Anyway, I decided not to drink anymore because alcohol sometimes gives me limp d*ck. She had these beautiful legs and I began to slide my fingers along her knee while we chatted. I began to run one of my gambits, the "I can read body language" play.

She asked me to read hers. I told her that she was open to me, but pensive. She giggled, agreed. Told me to go on. I told her that she was very much attracted to me because she was twirling her hair, yada yada. I move my hand up to her thigh area. This is where I normally get resistance from the woman. None this time. She was responding very positively. At this point, I'm feeling the aura flowing from me like crazy. She complains about being hot. I make a joke about it.

She tells me to go on reading her body language. I say something along the lines of: "You want me just as bad as I want you." She says, "nope." WOMP WOMP, the end.

Nah, jk. I start running my fingers through her hair (because I really did think that I had just washed out) and she goes: "No, pretty sure I want you more." Or some variant of that.

Took her by the hand, went to the dance floor of the upstairs restaurant / bar / dance hall. Danced with her a bit. Ran my hands all down her body, and she tells me that she was scared by how bad she wanted me. I debated whether to take her to the bathroom or in my car. Ended up just leaving the club. Here's the funny part -- she was SO HORNY that she was stumbling. I know it wasn't the drinks because she only had one and it was a lame ass cocktail. I was like, whoa wtf.

I carry her back to her car. She had an SUV. I put her in the backseat and begin to... service her. When she finished, she f*cking like... exploded. Best way to explain it. She literally screamed then moaned with relief. And said something I wasn't prepared for: She thanked me. Said she was so turned on that it was beginning to hurt. So, she drove me to my car and I was pretty pissed off like, man I didn't get mine. Then, she invites me over for a nightcap.

EDIT: Forgot to mention in original posting. I kept some L-Glutamine in my car. I had it premixed in this bottle of juice. Chugged it on the way to boost the aura again.

Get to her house, she slipped her dress off and just walked into the room. I follow her, and... well. The target goal was met. For awhile. We only had two condoms, ran through those and then I decided to be super risky and keep going without it. Afterward, she rolled over and fell asleep. I thought about staying, but I was like f*ck that. I kissed her on the cheek, bid her adieu. She gave me a hug, asked me not to judge her and to please call her again in the future.

If you think I'm spinning a yarn, trust me -- I'm confused myself. The only other time I've ever had it this easy was the chick I met in Ocean Beach, CA that told me that "she'd be mine all night" if I bought her weed and alcohol.

I've been running AM6 for a damn year now, so I'm 90% sure that has something to do with it. There's other things I left out for brevity, like how bold I was being with the waiter and chatting with other girls for preselection, but still. It all came natural. You just gotta trust the process and act when you see IOIs. IOIs exist for a reason. There really seems to be this disdain for the very idea of IOIs here, and I'm like... why?

Someone else needs to go on a one-on-one date using DMSI. Take them somewhere dark. Take them somewhere private. Escalate. You'll see.

inb4omgyoulyin!

Well, whatever. I'm satisfied.

[eternity]

wait, yeah!

there is no minimum for masked as far as -dB is concerned. The minimum for masked is that as long as you can CLEARLY hear the quietest part of the track, you're A-OK.

I think I remember reading the minimum for US is -65dB at the point where the ears are

[Shannon]

Minimum for masked is -60. Minimum for ultrasonic is -80. Thank you for the birthday wishes.

Chaos, thanks for keeping hope alive. Let's hope 2.3 us better still.

Off to test at the water park.

[Shannon]

I know subliminals are great and all, but I don't think they can help you move forward in a particular direction if you aren't already moving in that direction. What I'm saying is I don't think any subliminal can get you to change if you're not making the effort to change. take approaching women for example, say we have five guys 3 of them ALREADY APPROACH WOMEN, but they just want to make it feel easier and more natural, but the other 2 are virgins in their mid twenties who couldn't approach a woman to save their lives(this is where I fit in), perhaps came from a bad social background or out of fear of rejection or awkwardness or embarrassment or something. Now if all five guys listened to some 'approach women and overcome approach anxiety subliminal', the first three might notice that things have become a lot easier and they've started approaching women like crazy, started getting more and more dates. these are the guys whose testimonials you read online. these guys would say the tapes work!. but the other 2 would - to be frank - get absolutely no result(even if they wanted to approach women even more badly than the other three) because they ARE TOO SCARED TO APPROACH WOMEN and so were patiently hoping and waiting for the subs to help them start doing it out of the blue, in my opinion I find it hard to believe anymore that subs are capable of that kind of feat.. But this is just what I have come to believe though after trying out subliminals myself and observing how other people's testimonials are surprisingly positive while mine remains nil. So I'm open to your opinions on this though.

We have an open forum. That means people like you post posts like that and get heard on our forum. It's not all rainbows and nymphomaniacs, and the guys here tell it like it is. And that's how I know when the programs and technologies need improvement. But you can't say it doesn't work because it doesn't work for you. It just needs to address something you need addressed that I haven't yet advanced it to be able to deal with.

I've never known a man, who through subliminals started approaching women out of the blue without any prior experience with the task. In my opinion, all the people who have positive testimonials(being completely unable to take action but now taking action) here and there have either been paid or were already gradually working up to their goals so were gonna achieve those goals anyway with or without the subliminals.

Paid? The point of the forum is for me to get honest feedback on these subs so I know how to improve them. On top of that, we don't have the budget to pay for testimonials, and even if we did, neither me nor Andrew would allow it. Nobody gets paid for testimonials.

The people who have positive testimonials had success with the subs. How much they were doing other things is going to change with the person, but I think you're just having a hard time believing subliminals work and can't bring yourself to accept that they could work for other people.

don't get me wrong I know some subs work, the ones that just help you accept your abilities and inabilities and stop you from craving the desire to take action so you can be 'happy' with your hesitation to improve your life. But I haven't really found any subs that go as far as to breaking down your resistances to taking action, and thereby causing you to do things you wouldn't normally in your right senses(even if you conciously want to do those things but just can't).

I think you are projecting here. You haven't found any subs so far that break down YOUR resistance to taking action, based on YOUR usage patterns - we don't know what those are.

Hey guys, I'm sorry for being this frank. It's just how I feel. I guess I've just been frustrated by this life situation of mine. It's like everyguy around me is able to easily socialize and meet people, but I just shut down at the very idea. when I heard of a forum dedicated to people who use self help, I felt someone might know how I can help myself start approaching women. The testimonies here are like none I've ever seen before and really catch my attention in every sense. I'd appreciate any suggestions that really work, that really speak to my brain and tell it to let me change. thanks.

No apologies necessary for being honest and disagreeing. That's the point of having an open forum. We consider the positive and the negative, because all of it is useful.

It sounds like you are dealing with a lot of self blockage, and that's most likely going to be fear based at a subconscious level. So I suggest you consider something along the lines of EHPRA 1 or 2. V1 is a lot less smooth, powerful and effective than V2, but I can understand that you might not want to spend the money if you're not sure it will work for you. I'm sure the guys will have other suggestions.

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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
Thank you Shannon for making time to attend me, and thank you also for understanding.
I think it's fear. I fear rejection, I fear awkwardness, I fear humiliation, even more so I fear all theses things happening in public because I fear what people think as I approach a girl I'm attracted to . This is absolutely why I am always afraid of initiating anything with girls I like.

I would have loved to start out with your ASC 5g for say three to four months instead. And if it works, I move on to OAA. And then I'll get E2. Please let me know if this plan will work for me. Tanks

For those fears, e2 or DMSI with healing is best.

[Benjamin]

It's funny but i've noticed the people who are going crazy and attacking DMSI the most are people who have NEVER EVEN USED IT.

Interesting.. take from it what you want.