Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[DarthXedonias]

Hey @Shannon , sounds like Key #2 will be integral to my success with DMSI in particular. Never mind Key #1 playing a role and other changes.

Since Key #2 seems so pivotal for execution...is that going to be put into DMSI V3.3? It'd be a real shame for that to be left out until the NEXT version if it's as vital as it's appearing to be. Your description of it seems VERY useful to me in particular, wow. Tailor made, haha.

Key #2 for those curious what it's purpose is:

Key #2 is aimed at preventing fear.

The key (literally why it's called Key #2) is preventing the fear that results in the beliefs that are limiting the person, in this case, CM.

Thank you, Shannon!

I pretty much agree with you Catman. I do remember Shannon saying when I asked him about this that he would do formal testing before he put it in 3.3 "unless" people wanted him to put it in there without formal testing. So I guess he would get what data he needed based on informal testing with people on the forum reporting their findings. I am starting to think now that you mentioned what Key 2 does that maybe (maybe Shannon can clarify) that Key 2 and the fear removal module are 2 different things? I say this because it seems Key 2 is to "prevent" the fear while the fear removal module is to completely remove it. Also, It seemed like with the fear removal module it "has" to go through formal testing first. At least that's the feeling I got when I asked Shannon about it while Key 2 he said he could possibly put it in 3.3 without formal testing.

I would say more than anything I would rather wait, no matter how long, until Shannon can put both the fear removal module and Key 2 in 3.3. I say just get it to the point where everyone (or near everyone) is fully executing then just let 3.4 be the Icing on the cake where its just adding more additional effects on top of what people are already achieving.

[samba99]

I think so too. Shannon I hope you really do take your entire time with 3.3 even if that means to work on it then stop to make some focus fires then come back to it.

I think you should try to make it as complete as possible so to have 3.4 as polish and finalizing only

[RTBoss]

I think so too. Shannon I hope you really do take your entire time with 3.3 even if that means to work on it then stop to make some focus fires then come back to it.

I think you should try to make it as complete as possible so to have 3.4 as polish and finalizing only

To give you guys some perspective on how much Shannon will be putting into 3.3, he worked on 3.2 for about two weeks. He's planning on 2-3 times (perhaps more?) the time investment for 3.3. Considering he's also more productive at this time than before, that's very encouraging.

[Shawn]

3.2 can't mess something up with your energy system. The safeties in place are in place specifically to prevent that. The only thing that could possibly be is either you imagining it, or subconscious self sabotage in direct violation of the safeties.

That's what I had in my mind. However, I somehow feel bad for even mentioning it. It is like all fears in regard to DMSI 3.3 are rising up and get amplified at this time. And I have thoughts that go from "It's a waste of time" over "It will make me exhausted" to "It will damage me". Maybe the last resistance.

[blth]

Hi. I am new to the forum and never tried subliminals before. I am using DAOS for three days because it had so many good reviews but i am strongly considering switching to BASE which hits everything i need. I have some questions

1)Should I take a break if I used a 4g sub for 3 days before I use BASE?
2)Can I listen BASE 4 hours in the morning and 4 in the afternoon like 4g or it is more like 5.5g?
3)If it must be continuous, can I listen half of the hours in speakers and the other half in headphones?
4)Is BASE affecting waking up hours? I read the script briefly and I couldnt find anything. I am working afternoon-midnight hours and I sleep early in the morning
5)Is it more effective to listen during sleep or awake? I assume with ultra motivation the best is during working hours
6)In DMSI(5.5g) I read you shouldnt drink coffee/alcohol/meditate. Is it the same in BASE which is 5g? You dont mention anything and I assume it is fine to do the above
7)If i play music in a decent level and i have ultrasonic in a different source, i assume it is fine. I read the faq that it is fine but i want to make sure because in theory i am listening both but music will cover ultrasonic
8)Which format you think is more effective for BASE?
9)Do you think a set number of hours is better or it doesnt really matter whether i will run 8 hours one day, 10 next day etc

Any other advice is highly appreciated

Thank you

[Oversoul]

How would we know when 'reality bending' is happening?

Can somebody give examples please?

I can give a "little" bit of insight into this though it will be hard to explain when I realized Reality bending was happening. I noticed this mostly on 3.1. I noticed i might be doing something normally then all of a sudden i would have this kind of "rush" like feeling going through my mind. I would automatically say in my mind, "Something is happening". When the rush type feeling would go away I would think something was different. Like I could look at my surroundings and have this feeling that things looked "different". Either that or my perceptions of my surroundings changed.

This did get to ridiculous and almost psychic like levels in some ways. I remember I got the rushing feeling one time while I was fixing something at work and mind you I'm in a corner somewhere so I can't really see anyone else working near my area. I get that feeling and automatically its like something in my head said, "She's coming". The she was a young girl who just graduated from High-school who was heavily getting affected by 3.1 (before reversal resistance kicked in). Like 3 seconds after I had said that she turned the corner and engaged me in conversation. It was quite interesting. I haven't really gotten those same intuitions on 3.2 sadly. Granted I think that might be due to the fact that the part of my subconscious that fears the results of the program was artificially nullifying any attraction I had towards any woman.

Thank you for the detailed answer.

Damn, so your perception on how you see the world literally changed, mixed with things happening that your 'old self' would think is almost impossible?

Interesting.

[Benjamin]

Now I can answer this as i'm on a computer instead of a phone.

1)Should I take a break if I used a 4g sub for 3 days before I use BASE?

That's fine, you can go straight onto it.

2)Can I listen BASE 4 hours in the morning and 4 in the afternoon like 4g or it is more like 5.5g?

It's fine to split it up like that if it's 4g/5g. The latest 5.5g programs with a specificed amount of loops is what you want to do without interruption.

3)If it must be continuous, can I listen half of the hours in speakers and the other half in headphones?

Thats fine.

4)Is BASE affecting waking up hours? I read the script briefly and I couldnt find anything. I am working afternoon-midnight hours and I sleep early in the morning

Do you mean is there programming to get up early? Not specifically that I know of, but it may be a sideeffect with some of the programming, as in you might want to sleep less and get more done.

5)Is it more effective to listen during sleep or awake? I assume with ultra motivation the best is during working hours

Asleep is fine, it's really whenever you can do it. It's better to be consistent instead of obsessing over when is best.

6)In DMSI(5.5g) I read you shouldnt drink coffee/alcohol/meditate. Is it the same in BASE which is 5g? You dont mention anything and I assume it is fine to do the above

That's mainly 5.5g due to the state shifting. Though meditation done in some ways could be seen as mind programming so generally isn't recommended with subliminals.

7)If i play music in a decent level and i have ultrasonic in a different source, i assume it is fine. I read the faq that it is fine but i want to make sure because in theory i am listening both but music will cover ultrasonic

That's fine, usually if I do that I want to make sure the music/movie/whatever isn't drowning out the subliminal by either using a masked version or testing with masked to see.

8)Which format you think is more effective for BASE?

That's up to you, generally they are of a similar effect.. it's just the one you prefer.

9)Do you think a set number of hours is better or it doesnt really matter whether i will run 8 hours one day, 10 next day etc

It's best to keep the hours consistent between the stages, as with 6 stage programs it unbalances some things a little then smooths them over in the next stage and it may be a little unbalanced if you're hugely varying the hours.

[cataleya]

Has Shannon mentioned when (approximately) he will be done with the sub he is working on right now?

[CatMan]

Hi @Shannon , just going to repost this, curious about the answer. Seems to have big implications for execution.

Hey @Shannon , sounds like Key #2 will be integral to my success with DMSI in particular. Never mind Key #1 playing a role and other changes.

Since Key #2 seems so pivotal for execution...is that going to be put into DMSI V3.3? It'd be a real shame for that to be left out until the NEXT version if it's as vital as it's appearing to be. Your description of it seems VERY useful to me in particular, wow. Tailor made, haha.

Key #2 for those curious what it's purpose is:

Key #2 is aimed at preventing fear.

The key (literally why it's called Key #2) is preventing the fear that results in the beliefs that are limiting the person, in this case, CM.

Thank you, Shannon!

[Shawn]

Happy Birthday @Benjamin !

[Have at ye]

Has Shannon mentioned when (approximately) he will be done with the sub he is working on right now?

Haven't seen anything. It's probably going to be another surprise.

[Shannon]

Hi @Shannon , just going to repost this, curious about the answer. Seems to have big implications for execution.

Hey @Shannon , sounds like Key #2 will be integral to my success with DMSI in particular. Never mind Key #1 playing a role and other changes.

Since Key #2 seems so pivotal for execution...is that going to be put into DMSI V3.3? It'd be a real shame for that to be left out until the NEXT version if it's as vital as it's appearing to be. Your description of it seems VERY useful to me in particular, wow. Tailor made, haha.

Key #2 for those curious what it's purpose is:

Key #2 is aimed at preventing fear.

The key (literally why it's called Key #2) is preventing the fear that results in the beliefs that are limiting the person, in this case, CM.

Thank you, Shannon!

I'm going to try to put Key #2 in 3.3 as it needs testing as much as possible and as much refinement as possible before we hit DMSI-Final. Unless something unexpected happens, it will be in 3.3. The question is, do I have it scripted correctly?

I am also going to be testing it before it goes into 3.3.

[Shannon]

Has Shannon mentioned when (approximately) he will be done with the sub he is working on right now?

Haven't seen anything. It's probably going to be another surprise.

The program I am working on right now is, as of today, being dragged out of a bog-down I hit while trying to figure out how to script it. I spent a few days thinking about it, and came up blank. So I applied the rule for writing through Writer's Block - JUST WRITE! You can always clean it up later! - and I have since been quite inspired and made a lot of good progress.

There are still parts that I am trying to puzzle out, but it's getting tackled.

I don't know when it will be finished, but I am aiming for the next 2-3 days.

[cataleya]

Has Shannon mentioned when (approximately) he will be done with the sub he is working on right now?

Haven't seen anything. It's probably going to be another surprise.

The program I am working on right now is, as of today, being dragged out of a bog-down I hit while trying to figure out how to script it. I spent a few days thinking about it, and came up blank. So I applied the rule for writing through Writer's Block - JUST WRITE! You can always clean it up later! - and I have since been quite inspired and made a lot of good progress.

There are still parts that I am trying to puzzle out, but it's getting tackled.

I don't know when it will be finished, but I am aiming for the next 2-3 days.

Awesome. Cause I am on the verge of buying US/LM but I will wait to see what the new sub is