Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[eternity]

Modafinil most def interferes with dmsi..... from personal experience.

[DarkPlouf]

In the next DMSI version there should be a module for Converting Negative Energy within and In the Environment into energy used to power the Aura.

Playing with negative energy usually ends bad.
We could en up in the scenario where the subconscious (or any other concerned entity) would actively cause negative effects to then be able to feed on this energy. It's easier to destroy than construct, as it is also easy to take the path of the least resistance in such case.

Well It's not from experience, but that's a well documented phenomenon...

[Blink]

Have you cleared your cache? Give that a go to see how it goes.

The link under "Quick Navigation" of the forum is off.
https doesn't work for me but http does.

[changer]

In the next DMSI version there should be a module for Converting Negative Energy within and In the Environment into energy used to power the Aura.

Playing with negative energy usually ends bad.
We could en up in the scenario where the subconscious (or any other concerned entity) would actively cause negative effects to then be able to feed on this energy. It's easier to destroy than construct, as it is also easy to take the path of the least resistance in such case.

Well It's not from experience, but that's a well documented phenomenon...

I agree with DarkPlouf, using negative energy isnt a good idea.

[Daredevil]

Double Post

[Daredevil]

Untrue, very untrue. Alchemy is the process of hanging Negative Energy to positive energy and this is heavily used in systems such as Tai Chi and Chi Kung. Also this is already used slightly in Subliminals Such as Attract Positive Energy, E2 and remove negativity within.

And also, there will be safeguards in place. So the Subconscious won't cause negative events to happen to feed off of it.

[DarkPlouf]

Alchemy is the process of hanging Negative Energy to positive energy and this is heavily used in systems such as Tai Chi and Chi Kung.

Emotional Alchemy isn't the same thing as tasking an entity to do the work for you (here the subconscious). That's different.
You obviously won't harm yourself in order to harness negative energy, but your subconscious or any other entity on which you don't have 100% control over CAN.
Yes, safeguards is the way to go but it's still good to be careful.

[Ampersnd]

he he... it is the second time that I am going to say me too. I believe that this is a coincidence and not me resisting but I have some pain in one of my knee too.

The result isn't that I want to run other programs but I go less often to the gym which is my main spot for interacting with women...

His post shocked me!

My knees have been getting a high frequency of pain when sitting doing my thing normally at work, and lasting awhile after. Nothing extreme like intense sports or something to warrant such discomfort and pangs of pain. Definitely out of the ordinary, and only noted the last few weeks.

I also get these awful what I call "locking" of my calf muscles. Very painful, horrible pain, can last up to 3 days at times. Like a super powerful muscle cramp, only in my calves. Forces me to use 1.25 legs for a few days. And strangely only strikes when I wake up, and do a little stretch in the morning, then lasting a long time after it gives me that first strike of deep searing pain and immobilising the leg. Just now getting rid of it, almost 100% again. Happens every few weeks or so. Back pain, killing normal range of motion and debilitating me, at times lasting for days when it strikes too. Same frequency.

May be something to consider now that there's at least 3 of us complaining of knee pain at a minimum. Makes no sense to me WHY this would happen though. But I don't know what is in the script.

I thought it was relevant to report on this due to his post, now yours. This may not be a coincidence as I originally thought.

Here's some food for thought:

These might be psychosomatic effects of healing, if you're using ver. A.

F. in. while my knees aren't complaining, I sometimes get a stinging, somewhat painful "pins-and-needles" sensation in my right foot (and other places, here or there - I'm reporting most of it in my DMSI journal if you're interested). I am, like, 99% certain it is healing-related, as I'd sometimes get sensations like these when I was doing hardcore energy healing work on my own (back on ver. 3.1).

Stuff like that also tends to happen when people suddenly decide to play around with their chakras using physical means of tuning (f. in. Tibetan bowls) and they're all out of whack. I remember my ex getting serious heart palpitations when she took part in one such session; and they would not let go for over 24 hours, too.

If you're experiencing psychosomatic effects of this kind when using DMSI, you might want to check out various sources describing what might be the emotional/"metaphysical" reason behind any issue, and check whether this applies to you.

Hi there, have at ye!

I actually just started listening to A today. Since release, I've used B. But it still could be something sub-related, I figured I'd post about it after hearing others feeling the same thing. As then it may not just be some random thing with ME alone. For A, I waited until the servers were back to normal, then downloaded A right away and got started . Going to check out what the new C&H can do for now now, I've given B 50 days.

I will take a look at your journal again. I don't remember seeing that in your journal and have read it. I'll reread, thanks a lot for reaching out. I appreciate it!

I didn't mention the pins-and-needles in my foot, but I do mention other areas of weird physical sensation/pain in my journal (f. in. liver - which has pretty much passed altogether by now on third week with ver. A - on ver. B it was very, *very* pronounced).

I guess that different people would get different wonky sensations, depending on the areas that need work in relation to the program. I did a quick Internet search on "knee pain" and the "metaphysical" aspects thereof and, if the information I found is correct, am not surprised that they'd be acting up in your case, for instance.

Probably it'd be best to consult a seasoned holistic medicine/Chinese medicine practitioner for solid info (preferably one who's also a trained M.D., but there's relatively few people like that, I guess).

The knee pain is mostly gone, but I'm a little worried about trying my knees out on a lower body workout.

I've also scheduled a session with a chiropractor, which I'll have in about one month. Both my knees are crackly now, instead of only the other knee.

[Fluffy]

@Shannon

The last two versions of DMSI 3.2, A and B, I have suddenly stopped using them to use something else to help with my money goals, as I felt resistance in that DMSI will not help me and will actually hinder me in this area.

The weird thing is I will do this and feel all the resistance and then use something else for a week (relating to money) and then realise what I have done and then come back to using DMSI again.

Anyway can you fill this loophole? And make DMSI help rather then hinder money wise? Obviously you can't just pretend it will by saying it will, there must be a way to blend the goals so they Women and Money are in the same direction?...So technically reaching the goals of DMSI reaches your financial goals, as they are in the same direction??

Anyway, you can do whatever you feel is best. I just thought this was worth saying, as this is something I have had to deal with a 2nd time now.

[Jake2015]

@Shannon

The last two versions of DMSI 3.2, A and B, I have suddenly stopped using them to use something else to help with my money goals, as I felt resistance in that DMSI will not help me and will actually hinder me in this area.

The weird thing is I will do this and feel all the resistance and then use something else for a week (relating to money) and then realise what I have done and then come back to using DMSI again.

Anyway can you fill this loophole? And make DMSI help rather then hinder money wise? Obviously you can't just pretend it will by saying it will, there must be a way to blend the goals so they Women and Money are in the same direction?...So technically reaching the goals of DMSI reaches your financial goals, as they are in the same direction??

Anyway, you can do whatever you feel is best. I just thought this was worth saying, as this is something I have had to deal with a 2nd time now.

For me the issue is drive, motivation and procrastination. I feel when I do a task im doing it not at 90-100% focus and drive but doing it so slowly that a whole day can go by and very little is achieved and then there are those tasks, new habits and new goals that I want to create that I procrastinate on so if DMSI can work on these in some way towards success with women (perhaps celebrity effect) then awesome!!

If not DMSI than a sub that uses all the latest tech to achieve this would be awesome too. thanks

[Jake2015]

@"Cyanide"
just to let you know bro that whenever I click "post reply" then it takes ages before the post is uploaded.

[changer]

Untrue, very untrue. Alchemy is the process of hanging Negative Energy to positive energy and this is heavily used in systems such as Tai Chi and Chi Kung. Also this is already used slightly in Subliminals Such as Attract Positive Energy, E2 and remove negativity within.

And also, there will be safeguards in place. So the Subconscious won't cause negative events to happen to feed off of it.

I disagree with you that working on your own negative energy is the same as sucking negative energy from your environment to use it.

And I think you misread the salespages/scripts from the mentioned subliminals.

E.g. from Attract Positive Energy 4G:

I now and always remain completely unaffected by and unresponsive to any and all forms of and sources of negativity.

I now attract and internalize positive energy.

In that case you disconnect from negativity. That is some kind of shielding. Not using it. Attracting positive energy is not converting negative.

Same for the E2 salespage. No negative energy alchemy there the way you suppose it.

And the script of "remove negativity within" is disconnecting from your own negative energy and destroying your own negative energy. That makes sense but there is no usage of negative energy around you.

I am pretty sure that Shannon has good reasons to word it that way.
But lets see what his insights are on that topic.


P.S.: If you limit your suggestion to use negative energy that is within ourselfs to convert and power up the aura that might be ok. I only speak against using negative energy from the environment (as you also suggested in your initial post).

[Jake2015]

@Shannon

Hey Shannon, hope you're doing well bud.

1)I am not sleepy or tired when I listen to DMSI 3.2 A yet I was when I listened to B. I wondered if this tells you anything about me as a listener, perhaps that its proof the sub is working on me? Does this mean maybe B was working on me better and I should go back to B?

2)and so far its 52days no fap ONLY, so shall I increase the number of loops?

I am hoping that there is some H & C taking place, but honestly after 52days I cant tell.

3) Is there a chance the sub has stopped working and all im going to get is just no fapping? lol

4) I may after 1 month of A give 1 month of B a try again, so I only need to have 1 days break and then jump back and forth yes?

thanks very much in advance my friend.

[Benjamin]

The last two versions of DMSI 3.2, A and B, I have suddenly stopped using them to use something else to help with my money goals, as I felt resistance in that DMSI will not help me and will actually hinder me in this area.

The weird thing is I will do this and feel all the resistance and then use something else for a week (relating to money) and then realise what I have done and then come back to using DMSI again.

Anyway can you fill this loophole? And make DMSI help rather then hinder money wise? Obviously you can't just pretend it will by saying it will, there must be a way to blend the goals so they Women and Money are in the same direction?...So technically reaching the goals of DMSI reaches your financial goals, as they are in the same direction??

I think about this myself as I have the same thing, I wanted to deal with money but in a moment of big frustration around women I went back to DMSI and now i'm having the thoughts it won't help with money and i'm using sex to escape.

Some people have reported good things in that area, but it's not the focus of the program so i'm not sure it should be expected. One thing though is I feel 3.2 pushed me in the direction of doing the course I started to open up more opportunities to me.

The other weird thought is that it feels weird being pushed to do all of this just for sex, like can't I just legitimately do things for growth and myself without hoping to do it for sex? Some kind of weird logic from my mind making me want to stop using it I guess.

One thing is seeing how people are treating me on 3.2 (not necessarily huge attraction from girls yet, but people in general) it's difficult to think about stopping.

@Cyanide
just to let you know bro that whenever I click "post reply" then it takes ages before the post is uploaded.

I've been noticing that too, I let him know earlier today.