Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Oversoul]

The respect you get from DMSI is f***g real.

Last night, I was in a hookah place watching the Antony Joshua match with a friend and a few other people he knew.

A guy came to sit with us (call him A) that knew one of the girls. I didn't speak to him as he was all the way on the other side, he was only talking to about 2 people in out group.

30 mins after he sat down, a guy (call him B) approached the guy A sitting with us and stated he knew him. A's cousin had stabbed the B's friend and he recognised A's face as one of the people who were there when this happened. All of B's friends were in this venue and more were coming once they realized they caught an 'opp'. Within 20 minutes, there were about 20 guys outside with knives and a couple of guns. A's friends weren't coming to help him out even after he sat there for an hour trying to call them.

How did DMSI affect me in this situation?
1. Saw the whole situation as unfortunate but there was literally 0 fear. Everyone around me was shook up.
2. I walked past a few of B's friends when I was going to the toilet. They were real polite. There was a narrow pass where only one person could walk through- they let me pass first saying 'after you bro'. Bearing in mind that these guys had guns/knives and were here to seriously injure someone or worse.
3. Even before the whole situation, guys seem to be somehow intimidated/have respect for me.
4.IOIs from most good looking girls I saw.

There was also a girl there that wanted to hit on me. The more I ignored her and focused on something else, more she liked me. She ended up witting next to me etc. Wasn't hot enough for me so I didn't try anything.

Im pretty sure DMSI can easily hit the design goals if I lowered my standards. lol

Word for the wise, never ever turn down a pussy smash one-time act like it never happened

I really need to listen to this lol. Ive been passing too many opportunities

[Blacksheep]

That's a crazy story man, wow. I'm guessing things didn't end well for that guy.

I know what you mean because DMSI gave me a confident but really humble vibe. Everyone will respect that so you don't have to worry about people attacking you.

[KingDavid93]

Between TID and 4 weeks of side B usage I went through 8 weeks of effortless no fap, within 4 days of Side A usage led to a nocturnal emission and a returned desire for porn and masturbation.

This appears to be resistance or a reversal of some sort, I'm confused as to why B didn't cause this to happen but A has.

Could this be that A is going farther than B in achieving goals or perhaps that my subconscious is adverse to H&C?

[Benjamin]

I don't see wet deams as bad. I had one last night and it's good, for me it reduces neediness and it doesn't make me feel like crap like masturbation can for example the next day or so.

Also when I did "overcoming porn addiction" a few years ago I was having regular wet dreams, it was like it was helping reboot my sex drive and it was a positive thing in that case.

The desire for porn though sounds like some kind of resistance.

[Oversoul]

That's a crazy story man, wow. I'm guessing things didn't end well for that guy.

I know what you mean because DMSI gave me a confident but really humble vibe. Everyone will respect that so you don't have to worry about people attacking you.

Luckily for him, police came and escorted him out. The guys didn't wanna do anything to him with 100 witnesses watching so they were trying to get him to go outside which he didnt do.

I defo get you about the the calm and humble vibe. Other people are especially humble towards you aswell.

[Shannon]

Goal #2: To support goal #1, we have to develop, enhance and improve your self esteem, self respect, sense of self worth, self liking, self love, self validation, deservingness, self support, self confidence, self image, overcome fear, guilt and shame (yes, it has the entire script of E2’s OGSF and self validation modules in it [V2.0 and later], although it is modified to not disrupt the goals of this program) and so forth. These are the goals that will make you congruent with the effects you get from Goal #1, which is required for maximum success. Now much more heavily, aggressively and specifically focused on the achieving the goals of the program. This goal is only active in 3.2-A.

Shannon, kinda confused. Just to clarify... is goal 2 (as above) not in the skeleton script of DMSI 3.2B?

And goal 2 stuff is only in version A?

It does say pretty clearly... this goal is only active in A.

Also how does the Self Esteem program fit into this because that program was added to 3.2B, so is that left out of A because goal 2 deals with self esteem already?

The script of SE 5.5G is included in B. The scripting of A that is not in B is designed to generate self esteem through how it heals and clears you, and how the H&C modules interact.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon,

In regards to sleep aid, I can fall in asleep super quick, but also a very light sleeper so my true rest hours are like 2 each night even I was in bed sleeping for 7.

I’m thinking of a playlist of one loop of DMSI followed by multiple loops of sleep aid for the rest of the night. Do you think it will work?

I think you would do much better to do a playlist of SIA, followed by one loop of DMSI.

[Shannon]

I would also chime in that I'm feeling the drain as well. Need extra sleep a lot more now. I do wonder, if its not H&C then could it be a change in epigenetics then? I remember you saying that you had a strong disposition to believe that the sub at this point might be affecting us on a epigenetic level. If this is true could this be whats causing some of the tiredness maybe? I know we discussed how when you implement changing on a genetic level that you might experience tiredness from weeks to maybe even months. So maybe even a change at the epigenetic level might cause similar tiredness.

The drain will either be energy expended while the various coopperative parts of you battle it out subconsciously with the various non-cooperative parts, or energy expended because you are executing and probably encountering a lot of people who trigger the sniper.

Also Shannon I had 2 questions if you aren't busy. I know you said before that you might come out with the genetic changing stuff at around or slightly after 6G is finished. Have you considered maybe finishing it first then have it included in DMSI final? I'm just asking because I do think it might play an important part. If evolutionary theory is true and women choose the man with the most resources and/or best genetics to breed with wouldn't it make sense to have that included in DMSI final? Obviously I think you already said you might include something with wealth management/growth in a later edition but just seeing if you gave more thought to tackling the other side of the issue with the genetic stuff. I can't speak for anyone else but I know for myself I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer for final if it included the genetic component (granted we still have 3.3 before that).

Women choosing the man who has the best genetics to breed is not only already thrown out the window by DMSI, but it is only one of a number of factors she considers. In my efforts to decipher how to make the perfect aphrodisiac, it has come to my attention that there are well over 132 different factors that she considers, consciously and/or subconsciously, in making her choice. Genetics really isn't a big one that is necessary for DMSI because we can create the same reaction through the use of the pheromone optimizer and another module that are already in DMSI and have been functional for a while.

Also, have you thought about where you will put AYPs in 6G in the que? Would consider it probably after your done testing 6G with ASC (possibly DMSI final if that turns out to be 6G)? I mention that because I know from the threads that it seems like AM7 would be the most wanted 6G sub after your done testing but I know it usually takes you a while to complete a 6 stage sub (that's if AM7 even needs to be 6 stages). Could it be possible to maybe squeeze a few 6G AYPs in between that time since I assume ( I hope correctly) that the AYPs wouldn't take as much time due to length of the scripts and if they are of the same type you would only have to change a few words around?

The queue for 6G has two programs in it solidly. The first is ASC. The second is a custom sub. After that I will be deciding what to build. AYP should be doable as a focusfire, but we shall see. I don't have enough information yet as to what is necessary to build that in 6G.

And by the way, both of the custom jobs I am building will be eventually made available to you guys to buy if you wish. And both titles will be popular.

[Shannon]

Shannon would DMSI 3.2 in the long term help with Avoidant Attachment Style

More specifically, Fearful-Avoidant Attachment: People with Fearful-Avoidant Attachment patterns are ambivalent and afraid of commitment. They strike a balance in relationships in an attempt to avoid being too close or distant. They want to have their emotional needs met, but fear being too close.

Some examples I see in myself:

"Avoidants need love like everyone else, so they will miss their partners when they are not around. Once their partners return, they feel ‘trapped’ and hanker after space again."

This I see as a positive "Consequently, Avoidant partners cherish independence. They are firmly self-reliant and condescend to those who need others. Conversely, those who are secure realize the need for both freedom and partnership."

This dislike for attachment is for friends too, this is why I have no close friends because I feel that when people get close, I lose freedom, so I choose to keep guys on a top surface level.

Saying that though... I am able to get close to certain women (The ones I end up being in a relationship with) as close intimacy with a woman is more enjoyable and obviously has more perks. I enjoy the feminine energy of an attractive woman, especially if we have things in common and "connect". But that closeness only goes so far obviously.

I am a loner, but it is only because I feel like I lose my freedom if I let people get close to me, so I keep them at bay, I have been like this for a long time, so I am use to it and I do enjoy it to some extent because ...I have no attachments and I am free. Now I am just questioning it and wondering why I feel like it and wondering why I am like it. If I continue like this I will be fine, I would rather be like this than have toxic people and/or people I don't get on with ...suffocating me.

I can imagine it would be nice to have genuine close friends that I can connect with and have things in common with and enjoy times with and laugh together etc. That does feel alien to me now though.

I did one month of DMSI 3.2 B and I then took a week off because I chose to do something with another company but noticed it created resistance within me and realised how with DMSI 3.2 B, I never experienced resistance (All your other subs gave me resistance) and remembered how good I felt. So last night I decided to come back and start with DMSI 3.2 "A" this time round, even though I did not feel any resistance on version B.

It very well could, although I don't know for sure.

[Shannon]

Between TID and 4 weeks of side B usage I went through 8 weeks of effortless no fap, within 4 days of Side A usage led to a nocturnal emission and a returned desire for porn and masturbation.

This appears to be resistance or a reversal of some sort, I'm confused as to why B didn't cause this to happen but A has.

Could this be that A is going farther than B in achieving goals or perhaps that my subconscious is adverse to H&C?

The nocturnal emission and return of desire for porn together tells me that some part of H&C scares you deeply, or maybe you know that H&C will result in you achieving the goals, which is creating resistance and reversal. Remember that reversal resistance is always in response to high levels of fear.

[DarthXedonias]

Women choosing the man who has the best genetics to breed is not only already thrown out the window by DMSI, but it is only one of a number of factors she considers. In my efforts to decipher how to make the perfect aphrodisiac, it has come to my attention that there are well over 132 different factors that she considers, consciously and/or subconsciously, in making her choice. Genetics really isn't a big one that is necessary for DMSI because we can create the same reaction through the use of the pheromone optimizer and another module that are already in DMSI and have been functional for a while.

Jeez, if that's the case I think I'm starting to really understand why this whole project has even taken this long to get to this point. I mean there's obviously been resistance but add on top of that having to deal with taking over 132 different factors to get the woman even interested has to be a pain. This makes me wonder though even though 3.3 will be quite a while from now since your priority with 3.2 was the user side (stop people from resisting and self sabotaging) will your goal for 3.3 be mostly affected side?

I ask because from what I've seen so far I feel pretty darn good on 3.2 though there are still some minor hiccups (still have problems with porn every once in a while and a small degree of fantasizing). The only problems i've felt so far is the aura doesn't seem to have as much of a affect on a sexual side. I don't know if that just means the aura needs to be buffed up, need to make a wall for affected side to make the effects inescapable, and/or that my "Don't care attitude" is causing the aura to not snipe anyone. On that last part its kind of weird I could look at a woman for like a moment but then I just lose interest totally and don't care if shes getting affected. Still kind of not sure if this is resistance trying to kill my desire outright or if it really is just non-neediness to the extreme. It could be also my standards being risen way to high. Been going out consistently for the pass few days and I still haven't seen one woman I would even be interested in or desire (Been to the theater at the mall so shouldn't be a shortage of women there). Its like automatically my mind goes to "I don't care" and I lose interest automatically.

Btw, did want to thank you for the program as a whole though. My PTSD is pretty much gone and I have this kind of zen, peaceful attitude about me. Never thought with all the years I've suffered with this that I would finally be free of this. Now just need to keep running the program until I'm sure this attitude becomes the new MO and it doesn't come back.

[Have at ye]

Between TID and 4 weeks of side B usage I went through 8 weeks of effortless no fap, within 4 days of Side A usage led to a nocturnal emission and a returned desire for porn and masturbation.

This appears to be resistance or a reversal of some sort, I'm confused as to why B didn't cause this to happen but A has.

Could this be that A is going farther than B in achieving goals or perhaps that my subconscious is adverse to H&C?

The nocturnal emission and return of desire for porn together tells me that some part of H&C scares you deeply, or maybe you know that H&C will result in you achieving the goals, which is creating resistance and reversal. Remember that reversal resistance is always in response to high levels of fear.

Yeah, I've been noticing some bits of reversal resistance pertaining the above, every now and again, mostly while I was using ver. B (especially in the initial two weeks - and several days before it was published, heh). I did notice some of that in my initial week of ver. A, but much lessened in scope - as in, the various urges I know to be resistance-related are easier to control and pass faster than on ver. B.

Interestingly enough, I did have an urge to switch back to ver. B once or twice while running ver. A, hahaha. Did not follow through with that, of course, but it's amusing none-the-less: and seems to be pointing to the fact that, yeah, continuing with ver. A is probably the way to go.

[findingme]

Is the procrastination module present in version A of DMSI? I've seen men report its affects on B, but not on A. It's not mentioned specifically in the sales page either.

[Determined]

Women choosing the man who has the best genetics to breed is not only already thrown out the window by DMSI, but it is only one of a number of factors she considers. In my efforts to decipher how to make the perfect aphrodisiac, it has come to my attention that there are well over 132 different factors that she considers, consciously and/or subconsciously, in making her choice. Genetics really isn't a big one that is necessary for DMSI because we can create the same reaction through the use of the pheromone optimizer and another module that are already in DMSI and have been functional for a while.

Jeez, if that's the case I think I'm starting to really understand why this whole project has even taken this long to get to this point. I mean there's obviously been resistance but add on top of that having to deal with taking over 132 different factors to get the woman even interested has to be a pain. This makes me wonder though even though 3.3 will be quite a while from now since your priority with 3.2 was the user side (stop people from resisting and self sabotaging) will your goal for 3.3 be mostly affected side?

Lol, while 132 might seem like alot to your conscious mind, to your subconscious it isn't.