Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol.9

[Shannon]

If you want to focus on healing, then use PRA.  If you want to do everything in Stage 0 (and that's a LOT), then do Stage 0.  Stage 0 will motivate you to move at a faster pace than whatever is just comfortable, but it's also doing many different things at once.

TLDR: Goal is to become my greatest version. Heal fully first or pivot to something like AM7 at some point? Worried about two opposite mistakes: either stopping healing too early and hitting a ceiling, or over healing when I'd grow faster doing more. Trying to maximize my time to gains ratio.




I want to focus on whatever will be the fastest path long term to a 10/10 me. If that means hunkering down and focusing on the slow grind of healing first then I will do it. If it means hopping on AM7 I'll do it. I'm just constantly looking for the best angle for that rock solid 10/10 I see myself becoming in the future. I picture myself leaving healing cause I'm bored to focus on other things and then not getting where I want to go because I needed more healing. I don't want to waste my time by not building the foundation first and jumping the gun, or by focusing too much on building the foundation while I could've been living life more fully while growing as much or more.


To boil it down, is it better to get to a "good enough" marker and then focus on other things, or is it better to finish healing first if I have the patience for it? And to add context, my goal is to become my "greatest version", so whatever's serving that long term vision the best is what I want to go with. Just pure self development for it's own sake is my primary and ultimate goal. I don't care about mainstream advice to learn while you're doing the thing, because I don't have the same values or goals that that applies to. My goal is basically to be a body builder but for who I am rather than for my physical body.

Alright.  If you were to switch to Stage 0, would you be using it for 1 month before starting Stage 1 (Normal/don't really need it use) or for 4 months (Need Stage 0 to make the set work for me use)?

[Have at ye]

If you want to focus on healing, then use PRA.  If you want to do everything in Stage 0 (and that's a LOT), then do Stage 0.  Stage 0 will motivate you to move at a faster pace than whatever is just comfortable, but it's also doing many different things at once.

TLDR: Goal is to become my greatest version. Heal fully first or pivot to something like AM7 at some point? Worried about two opposite mistakes: either stopping healing too early and hitting a ceiling, or over healing when I'd grow faster doing more. Trying to maximize my time to gains ratio.




I want to focus on whatever will be the fastest path long term to a 10/10 me. If that means hunkering down and focusing on the slow grind of healing first then I will do it. If it means hopping on AM7 I'll do it. I'm just constantly looking for the best angle for that rock solid 10/10 I see myself becoming in the future. I picture myself leaving healing cause I'm bored to focus on other things and then not getting where I want to go because I needed more healing. I don't want to waste my time by not building the foundation first and jumping the gun, or by focusing too much on building the foundation while I could've been living life more fully while growing as much or more.


To boil it down, is it better to get to a "good enough" marker and then focus on other things, or is it better to finish healing first if I have the patience for it? And to add context, my goal is to become my "greatest version", so whatever's serving that long term vision the best is what I want to go with. Just pure self development for it's own sake is my primary and ultimate goal. I don't care about mainstream advice to learn while you're doing the thing, because I don't have the same values or goals that that applies to. My goal is basically to be a body builder but for who I am rather than for my physical body.

To me, based on my experiences with PRA v.1 and AM7 Stage 0, a lot of it could be based on temperament. F. in. while I really needed the slow-burn takn' it easy healing there for a while, I believe I'm more suited to the AM7 Stage 0 approach, which does feature PRA and all the healing and OGSFing goodness, but takes a more intense, "bootcamp" approach (and also has more goals to it than just healing which could be a plus if you feel like you'd like to do more than "just" heal up.)

So I guess that would really depend on where you're at in the moment emotionally. But once you start Stage 0, it's going to try to motivate you to keep going with it *whatever it takes*. PRA stand-alone is more gentle and is healing-only.

[Frosted]

TLDR: Goal is to become my greatest version. Heal fully first or pivot to something like AM7 at some point? Worried about two opposite mistakes: either stopping healing too early and hitting a ceiling, or over healing when I'd grow faster doing more. Trying to maximize my time to gains ratio.




I want to focus on whatever will be the fastest path long term to a 10/10 me. If that means hunkering down and focusing on the slow grind of healing first then I will do it. If it means hopping on AM7 I'll do it. I'm just constantly looking for the best angle for that rock solid 10/10 I see myself becoming in the future. I picture myself leaving healing cause I'm bored to focus on other things and then not getting where I want to go because I needed more healing. I don't want to waste my time by not building the foundation first and jumping the gun, or by focusing too much on building the foundation while I could've been living life more fully while growing as much or more.


To boil it down, is it better to get to a "good enough" marker and then focus on other things, or is it better to finish healing first if I have the patience for it? And to add context, my goal is to become my "greatest version", so whatever's serving that long term vision the best is what I want to go with. Just pure self development for it's own sake is my primary and ultimate goal. I don't care about mainstream advice to learn while you're doing the thing, because I don't have the same values or goals that that applies to. My goal is basically to be a body builder but for who I am rather than for my physical body.

Alright.  If you were to switch to Stage 0, would you be using it for 1 month before starting Stage 1 (Normal/don't really need it use) or for 4 months (Need Stage 0 to make the set work for me use)?

Definitely for 4 months. Maybe even longer. (I could probably skate by with 1 month) But I'm also paranoid about wasting time focusing on the house when the foundations not good enough yet. Over the years I've noticed my time wasted by focusing on upward development. A lot of it gets torn down anyways when I focus on the foundation, because that upward development was built on partially rotted ground.

I feel like if I run AM7, even if I meet the minimum requirements, there's no healing in the 1-7 stages. Wouldn't that mean sub optimal growth, since that's 7 months of development without healing? I also don't want a "good enough" result from your programs, I'm an extremist who wants the best without the ceiling.

[Shannon]

Alright.  If you were to switch to Stage 0, would you be using it for 1 month before starting Stage 1 (Normal/don't really need it use) or for 4 months (Need Stage 0 to make the set work for me use)?

Definitely for 4 months. Maybe even longer. (I could probably skate by with 1 month) But I'm also paranoid about wasting time focusing on the house when the foundations not good enough yet. Over the years I've noticed my time wasted by focusing on upward development. A lot of it gets torn down anyways when I focus on the foundation, because that upward development was built on partially rotted ground.

I feel like if I run AM7, even if I meet the minimum requirements, there's no healing in the 1-7 stages. Wouldn't that mean sub optimal growth, since that's 7 months of development without healing? I also don't want a "good enough" result from your programs, I'm an extremist who wants the best without the ceiling.

Healing is a passively active endeavor.  It typically makes you passive in all directions except where you are active in healing.  That usually means you cannot be active doing something else at the same time.  That allows healing to potentially lead to stagnation by "healing paralysis".

Stage 0 allows for healing with action towards achieving a goal.  It also sets you up to run AAMTS v7.

AAMTS does have healing in it, but not the same sort as in Stage 0.  Stage 1 used to be what was aimed at "healing and clearing".  Now, it is designed to be the "off ramp" for healing from Stage 0, or a way of clearing things without focusing too heavily on healing. Sage 1 is designed to prepare you for Stage 2, and Stage 1 is a lot of foundation building, but not necessarily focused entirely on, or even a majority on, healing and clearing.  We don't want "healing paralysis" or "healing escapism".  

If you run AAMTS v7 according to the instructions, then you would, in your case, run Stage 0 for 4 months and then run through stages 1 through 6.  If after Stage 6, you believe you would benefit from another run, then you would repeat that action, starting from Stage 0 (if you think you need more) or Stage 1.

Stages 1 through 6 are designed to step you up to Stage 7.  You don't have to run Stage 7 if you don't want to, or if you think you need more development.  Stage 7 is all of stages 1 through 6 in one stage.

The set is designed to act like a spiral.  It gradually works you upwards.  You will advance as far as you can under it's influence, and then you can run Stage 7 for a whil, or re-run the set, as you see fit.  Then it would bring you up another level from where the first run left you, if you did not achieve what you wanted to from your first run, ending on Stage 6 or 7.

Healing isn't the end-all be-all.  You can heal forever if you're really just trying to hide from action or growth.  That is actually why v7 will reduce the amount of "healing and clearing" in stages 1 through 7 to Stage 1 only.  I have designed it so that H&C is dealt with, but does not lead to or alloow "healing paralysis".

Extremism is typically the result of the same thing as perfectionism, fear.  Fear is not going to help you.  It's going to hold you back.  You can either focus on healing until you think you're "all healed", or you can work in it, and then use what you gain as thelaunch pad to grow.  If when you're done with the growth cycle, you're not where you want to be, then you can start over and make more progress.

But remember that 3-4 months of a single title is the limit before they tend to start losing effectiveness as a result of boredom.  So if you do 4 months of Stage 0, I would strongly recommend that you either take a month off all subs to allow yourself to settle out before doing more of that propgram, or start Stage 1.

[Frosted]

Thank you for taking the time to write such an in depth response. So I just need to reach a certain minimum threshold and then AM7 will take me where I need to go, rather than endlessly focusing on healing while putting the rest of my life off. If that's the case, then I'll be switching to AM7 as soon as I finish this cycle of PRA. I'll have to buy something for my family member, since they won't be getting passive PRA listening from me anymore. Any news on PRA2?

[Frosted]

@Shannon I also just want to thank you in general for being so personable with your customers and giving us your direct time and attention. It's very much appreciated, and just goes to show your dedication.

[Shannon]

Thank you for taking the time to write such an in depth response. So I just need to reach a certain minimum threshold and then AM7 will take me where I need to go, rather than endlessly focusing on healing while putting the rest of my life off. If that's the case, then I'll be switching to AM7 as soon as I finish this cycle of PRA. I'll have to buy something for my family member, since they won't be getting passive PRA listening from me anymore. Any news on PRA2?

PRA v2 is on hold while I work on AAMTS v7.  Then I have to finish processing the research I was doing, translate it into script, and finish building the other parts of the script.  PRAv2 is not going to be a simple program, or fast to make, but it should be exceptionally useful.

[Shannon]

@Shannon I also just want to thank you in general for being so personable with your customers and giving us your direct time and attention. It's very much appreciated, and just goes to show your dedication.

Thank you for your appreciation.  I am on the forum partly because I am the only one who can answer the questions, partly because it allows me the fastest access to feedback to revise and improve my products, and partly because I am trying to provide you with what I would want if I was a customer.

Sometimes it gets hard to keep up with everything, but I try.

And some day I will have to retire from being lead customer support on the forums, because I'm going to have too much to do to handle this all at once, but until that time, here I am.

[ReconGunner]

@Shannon I also just want to thank you in general for being so personable with your customers and giving us your direct time and attention. It's very much appreciated, and just goes to show your dedication.

Thank you for your appreciation.  I am on the forum partly because I am the only one who can answer the questions, partly because it allows me the fastest access to feedback to revise and improve my products, and partly because I am trying to provide you with what I would want if I was a customer.

Sometimes it gets hard to keep up with everything, but I try.

And some day I will have to retire from being lead customer support on the forums, because I'm going to have too much to do to handle this all at once, but until that time, here I am.

That will be a day both sad and joyous.

Sad, because we enjoy your presence and interaction - the value of your assistance here is incalculable.
Joyous, because you will be moving further towards your own goals for yourself and your business - and as much as you have invested in developing the tools we need for our success, you have far and away earned your own success.

[Shannon]

Thank you for your appreciation.  I am on the forum partly because I am the only one who can answer the questions, partly because it allows me the fastest access to feedback to revise and improve my products, and partly because I am trying to provide you with what I would want if I was a customer.

Sometimes it gets hard to keep up with everything, but I try.

And some day I will have to retire from being lead customer support on the forums, because I'm going to have too much to do to handle this all at once, but until that time, here I am.

That will be a day both sad and joyous.

Sad, because we enjoy your presence and interaction - the value of your assistance here is incalculable.
Joyous, because you will be moving further towards your own goals for yourself and your business - and as much as you have invested in developing the tools we need for our success, you have far and away earned your own success.

True.

[Shannon]

Alright... I *think* I have corrected the issue with PayPal, but now I seem to have a chicken and egg situation. Shopify says I need to finish setting up with PayPal, and PayPal says I need to finish setting up with Shopify. I am very confused as to what I need to do.

Please let me know if the issue persists.

[Ampersnd]

I'm going to try subscribing to MLS right now, so we can see if PayPal works

Instant feedback: This store can’t accept payments right now. Refresh this page or come back later.

[Shannon]

I'm going to try subscribing to MLS right now, so we can see if PayPal works

Instant feedback: This store can’t accept payments right now. Refresh this page or come back later.

Dammit.  I'll have to go hunting through this crap again tomorrow after breakfast I guess.

[Rois83]

Thank you for your answer.

I'm referring to PRA. She will start using the masked format so hopefully that will make the difference.

Thank you!

You need to give me the full details of what is going on.

PRA when it is used properly can and often does trigger resistance, and the proper way to handle it in most cases is to just keep going.  The parts that need to change are not always going to change without a fight, but they can and will change.  Trying to reduce or avoid resistance isn't always the solution.

Give me the full picture, so I can give you accurate advice, please.

Hi Shannon,

The person doesn't want to explain the full picture in the forum and I told her to send an email to Ben, hope it's okay.

Thank you,