08-29-2025, 04:41 PM
(08-29-2025, 01:13 PM)Shannon Wrote:(08-29-2025, 07:47 AM)Catman Wrote: Sounds reasonable, and avoids the obvious chance of people doing "MOAR POWAR!!1!" then complaining about side effects and massive overkill anyway.
I suspected the version's instructions would differ due to one having the DRS V2 inclusion, makes sense.
Originally, my plan was to do V5.0 to fully focus for a run on doing the work needed to step up to full execution. As that avoids "splitting the focus" and making DMSI have the best chance to succeed. I remember you've always said the reality that splitting the focus means each program gets less of the pie in your analogy, no matter how you slice it.
I guess what I'm asking is, does V5.0 really have a much stronger focus and aura than V5.1 does? But V5.1 has more overall utility due to DRS V2?
I can only comment based on what I have seen from the models. Both show function. 5.0 shows a more "dirty" result and 5.1 shows a "cleaner" result. In effect, this shows the results of filtering out the negativity as DRS does. I'm not sure how else to describe what the models are showing.
5.0 has focus split with FRM; 5.1 has focus split with FRM and DRS. There is not an even split of focus. That is to say, FRM does not get 50% and DMSI 50% for 5.0, and it's not 33.33% for each for 5.1. FRM is dynamic, and so in the beginning, it will tend to take the lion's share of the focus and energy if you need it; much less if you don't. DRS will take some energy, plus the shield will take some energy, but again,these are dynamic. They power up as needed. This was the best solution I could come up with. Not perfect, but better by far than a simple static division.
Quote:What do you mean about: "The DRS included will make a significant difference in what the results are."? I know DRS V2 can apparently help with anxiety in some situations, which seems logical. Did you mean that or something similar? Or was it just really about the listening regimen being much different which would make sense if it was?
Well first you have the effect of the negativity being filtered out, which results in less anxiety and a lot more comfort executing and growing into the goals of DMSI. Then you have the effects it has on those who would try to control or attack you for daring to stand out, or affect a woman you find attractive. Guys may try to energetically attack you with guilt shame or fear; women may also. Getting this right back from you and you being unphased is not going to go un-noticed. Especially from women you're attracted to who try to "test" or manipulate or attack you for your DMSI aura.
I'm not trying to sell you on 5.1, which is why I simply asked which one you'd like. but I would sure as hell be using DRS with DMSI in some way if I wasn't well versed in attraction, seduction, dating and sex.
Quote:Thanks so much for clarifying and for the regimen that's incoming.
That said, I have seen some things happen in V5.0 in the short time I've used it. A couple dreams relevant, annoying skyrocketing appetite that always happens on DMSI that it causes weight gain even if not careful, haha...heat...some m wood situations, lol...etc. and a lot of motor mouth from others which can be a bit annoying at times even though I'm very social, haha...so it's not a total loss so far! Just to clarify.
EDIT: I just saw your bar story. That kind of thing happens to me too...but since nothing develops I just chalk it up to nothing or making mountains out of molehills etc. Or you take the signal that is "obvious" (it's not obvious ever, and you always need to read way in and risk getting burned) and suddenly it goes wrong and you're in the wrong somehow. That happens too, they switch up. But I do see these things, even on X4A and earlier. Lots of stories I could tell of similar situations, and switch ups too sadly that defy logic to this day. Socially I'm extremely strong due to my background, but I guess there's an invisible wall from that point to romantic/sexual for me. But just wanted to add context after reading your post. That is a somewhat common occurrence to me, that I never really think is a big deal because it doesn't go anywhere even with pushing to make something happen. It's a bizarre experience, this invisible wall. We'll see if we can remove it!
My experience last night at the bar could have resulted in sex with any of those three women, if I had played my cards right. I was intentionally being passive because I am involved, and because I cannot see what they will do if I do it for them. The key in my experience is, don't try to get to sex too fast. You need to match or slightly over-match her position. That takes practice for most guys. But when DMSI gets going full tilt, you should have women approaching you, offering to you, etc. - although it may not be super obvious in most public situations. (Unless she's drunk, at which point, she's really off limits regardless.)
When you run DMSI, you shouldn't be looking for results. Just let it do it's thing. Go along with it when it starts guiding you in a seductive direction, or socially. It wouldn't be by saying "Hey, wanna fuck?" that I would get to sex with any of those three women. It would be through socializing with them, playful banter, and either letting them grow their interest into it or leading them that direction in subtle ways. V was sober, and at work. It would take some time to get her to do anything outside of work, if that was my goal, but I could.
The girl with sharp eyes was drinking shots. I tend to avoid women after they have imbibed alcohol for obvious reasons, but it would have been relatively easy to socialize and have fun with her, if I could find common ground to talk about. Maybe suggest a different venue, maybe suggest a shot I like, etc. The responses she gave tell me that she was already aroused, had noticed me, had concluded she was aroused by me specifically, and that she thought I wasn't interested, so she gave up. I could have taken it further if I'd socialized. And maybe that day wasn't ideal for achieving sex, but there's always the next. And so on.
The woman on the laptop was there with her husband or fiance. I could have managed that one, too, if I was that kind of guy, but it's a lot less direct. And also much less easy to do the same day. Obviously you adjust to the circumstances.
But if you want them to approach you, you need to be fully, or nearly fully, executing DMSI. Even then, not everyone will approach, and they may need multiple exposures to approach.
The results you're getting tell me that you are to some degree executing, which is good news. It would be really helpful if you would start reporting, not only so I can know what's going on, but be able to make suggestions.
The model's results are what I assumed then, excellent. It makes sense that the addition of DRS V2 would "smooth out the ride". DRS V1 was a treat to experience especially with one person in particular...I missed it when it was gone for that individual...DRS V2 sounds like it's even better. Truly a gem of a program.
I didn't realise FRM and DMSI split resources, but once it's verbalised, that makes logical sense immediately. If needed FRM kicks in to provide clearing for what is necessary for the design goal to function. The dynamic "on demand" resource pulling nature of FRM makes sense.
I thought that DRS V2 was "always on" due to it being conceptualised as a "shield". But it's dynamic "on demand" nature also makes logical sense now, I was not aware it wasn't an always on sub. As needed, fascinating. I kind of think of a "shield" as like the "Black Hole Shield" (that has always seemed like an intriguing sub to try one day!).
Well, given those factors, and how it makes sense to have that DRS V2 "buffer" especially while learning the ropes as you say, it seems the path forward that is ideal for me is indeed: DMSI V5.1.
I respect your honesty in saying you weren't trying to sell me DMSI V5.1. Given my situation, it is ideal it appears.
So please put me down as an early adopter of DMSI V5.1 then.
I'm grateful those key script changes are baked into the key script going forward too, so no more multi-month nightmare hell marches for you and I, haha! I had nothing of the sort this time around on V5.0 vs. my time on X4A-1600 before the key script changes. That said it was only a short time on V5.0 as well, when early on maybe resistance you would assume would be the highest. And it's reasonable to assume this sub would cause far more resistance points to occur, so that is reassuring. Both to my long term execution, but also to the changes to the key script you have made being on the right track!
And again, I have already been executing aspects of the script even early on, so things may not be as terrible as we conceptualise. Both of us have possible PTSD from this admittedly long slog together, for sure, haha...maybe though the past does not equal the future here! This execution even in early days is reassuring.
I look forward to V5.1's possibly imminent release, and hope you are doing very well, @Shannon.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your time, expertise, clarity, and...patience.
It's been a long run, maybe now there is light at the end of the tunnel. If I squint, I think I can see it!
