Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Bignoise]

I don’t understand the point of your post 4kingdoms. I have read that post before, i know what I have works.
But if I paid $650 for a sub, and a week later a better version is published, even if that improvement it’s just saving some time, then I think my request is fair.
But I’m understanding it’s not just the time, but a better management of the resources between FRM and DRS too and DRS working better because the new scripting. So, i think my request is fair enough.

[London1]

Does 5.1 have FRM?

[Baya]

Could i switch from 5.0 to 5.1 or would that be a problem results wise/ would i have to take 2 week break before doing 5.1.

[4Kingdoms]

I don’t understand the point of your post 4kingdoms. I have read that post before, i know what I have works.
But if I paid $650 for a sub, and a week later a better version is published, even if that improvement it’s just saving some time, then I think my request is fair.
But I’m understanding it’s not just the time, but a better management of the resources between FRM and DRS too and DRS working better because the new scripting. So, i think my request is fair enough.

With great respect towards you, you voted No in this poll. (Click on "Show Results")

On Post #1, I quoted @Shannon, hence the reason for creating the poll.

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https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid269076

I will build a separate version (v5.1) which integrates the DRS.

But that will be free to nobody under any circumstances if I do.  This seems like a reasonable solution for everybody.

[Bignoise]

I don’t understand the point of your post 4kingdoms. I have read that post before, i know what I have works.
But if I paid $650 for a sub, and a week later a better version is published, even if that improvement it’s just saving some time, then I think my request is fair.
But I’m understanding it’s not just the time, but a better management of the resources between FRM and DRS too and DRS working better because the new scripting. So, i think my request is fair enough.

With great respect towards you, you voted No in this poll. (Click on "Show Results")

On Post #1, I quoted @Shannon, hence the reason for creating the poll.

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https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid269076

I will build a separate version (v5.1) which integrates the DRS.

But that will be free to nobody under any circumstances if I do.  This seems like a reasonable solution for everybody.

Ok, I understand the reason now. Shannon already said no. Ok, I respect that and I won’t insist then.

BTW, the poll question is: “would you pay for DMSI+drs?” And I stand by me reponse: I wouldn’t.

[London1]

@Shannon

Serious question, how long should it take a hard case user to achieve the program goals of DMSI 5.x? Or at least start getting strong and clear reactions? 

Also is it the same for both 5.0 and 5.1 in terms of time? If not whats the difference? Which takes longer etc?

[Shannon]

@Shannon



Serious question, how long should it take a hard case user to achieve the program goals of DMSI 5.x? Or at least start getting strong and clear reactions? 

That's going to depend on a LOT of variables.  Are you using it according to the instructions?  What is your conscious and subconscious personality?  What experiences have you had in your life?  How did you react to them, and what conclusions did you come to in response to them?  How old are you?  What is your balance of emotion vs logic?  What is your belief system?  What is your social life like?  What circumstances do you live in?  What is your culture like?  What level of looks and fitness are you starting out with?  How do you respond to opportunities?  What are your beliefs regarding women and sex?  Do you hate women, resent them, fear them? And on and on and on.  There are too many variables for me to be able to answer that.  It is so variable that even trying to estimate a range would be useless.

Also is it the same for both 5.0 and 5.1 in terms of time? If not whats the difference? Which takes longer etc?

Theoretically, 5.1 should be faster because it is filtering out the negativity and such.  But then, 5.0 + DRS should produce the same time frame.

[London1]

@Shannon



Serious question, how long should it take a hard case user to achieve the program goals of DMSI 5.x? Or at least start getting strong and clear reactions? 

That's going to depend on a LOT of variables.  Are you using it according to the instructions?  What is your conscious and subconscious personality?  What experiences have you had in your life?  How did you react to them, and what conclusions did you come to in response to them?  How old are you?  What is your balance of emotion vs logic?  What is your belief system?  What is your social life like?  What circumstances do you live in?  What is your culture like?  What level of looks and fitness are you starting out with?  How do you respond to opportunities?  What are your beliefs regarding women and sex?  Do you hate women, resent them, fear them? And on and on and on.  There are too many variables for me to be able to answer that.  It is so variable that even trying to estimate a range would be useless.

Also is it the same for both 5.0 and 5.1 in terms of time? If not whats the difference? Which takes longer etc?

Theoretically, 5.1 should be faster because it is filtering out the negativity and such.  But then, 5.0 + DRS should produce the same time frame.

That is just so much to think about and consider...

Im thinking of streaming 3 months just to see what happens then go back to ogsf. In terms of looks im a pretty in shape guy due to working out, not big and bulky but more lean and ripped, I think ive got that brad Pitt from fight club physique almost

However I suffer from severe fear/avpd. (Emotional trauma?) Id be scared/avoidant of any potential interest for fear of messing up. I can talk to people ok one on one but big groups terrify me.

Because of my physique/decent looks I do get initial attraction from women but this dies down very fast because of my quiet and dead personality and inability to socialize/flirt.

Because of this would I go straight to the gentler masked format to avoid wasting time or do I do ultrasonic?

[Catman]

Congrats on V5.1, @Shannon.



After downloading and testing the files briefly afterwards, I learned of a potential issue.



The 20 min and 35 min ultrasonic audio appears to be about 15-20 decibels lower than V5.0's equivalent file.



The others appear to be more or less the same volume, from V5.0 to V5.1.



Given how the volume requirements seem to be louder for both use cases, and presumably for mine as well compared to V5.0's, and how ultrasonic is supposed to be the standard format used to start, I felt it worth reporting this in case of an issue.



Thanks so much for building this sub.

I appreciate it, but I am fully aware of that.  Everything is okay.  You are welcome.

Oh wow, so even though you want the ultrasonic sub listened to louder, the ultrasonic sub volume is extremely low by comparison to the other V5.1's tracks, and even V5.0's tracks. That was surprising if so. Wouldn't it end up much quieter? That's what I was worried about and wanted to mention just in case is all.

Just a follow up on the listening regimen for me too, do we have a handle on that yet? Maybe do hybrid? I did briefly experiment with that before I think we talked about it and saw results (relevant dreams and heat sensations, appetite increases etc.), during X4A-1600, so for me at least, it didn't seem like overkill at all. May have actually helped break through that awful death march we both went through, I bet, who knows. That was horrific. 

Hope you are doing well and relaxing a bit after the recent release. Intrigued to see what's next, I think it was OPH? That should be a great one.

[Shannon]

I appreciate it, but I am fully aware of that.  Everything is okay.  You are welcome.

Oh wow, so even though you want the ultrasonic sub listened to louder, the ultrasonic sub volume is extremely low by comparison to the other V5.1's tracks, and even V5.0's tracks. That was surprising if so. Wouldn't it end up much quieter? That's what I was worried about and wanted to mention just in case is all.

Just a follow up on the listening regimen for me too, do we have a handle on that yet? Maybe do hybrid? I did briefly experiment with that before I think we talked about it and saw results (relevant dreams and heat sensations, appetite increases etc.), during X4A-1600, so for me at least, it didn't seem like overkill at all. May have actually helped break through that awful death march we both went through, I bet, who knows. That was horrific. 

Hope you are doing well and relaxing a bit after the recent release. Intrigued to see what's next, I think it was OPH? That should be a great one.

The volume is different because the build method is different.  

The instructions for you are in the works.  I'll have that soon.  Just had to take today to rest. I am too exhausted to work right now, and under those conditions, the models do not return useful results.

After I calculate your usage patterns, I will be building OPH 6G.

[Catman]

Oh wow, so even though you want the ultrasonic sub listened to louder, the ultrasonic sub volume is extremely low by comparison to the other V5.1's tracks, and even V5.0's tracks. That was surprising if so. Wouldn't it end up much quieter? That's what I was worried about and wanted to mention just in case is all.



Just a follow up on the listening regimen for me too, do we have a handle on that yet? Maybe do hybrid? I did briefly experiment with that before I think we talked about it and saw results (relevant dreams and heat sensations, appetite increases etc.), during X4A-1600, so for me at least, it didn't seem like overkill at all. May have actually helped break through that awful death march we both went through, I bet, who knows. That was horrific. 



Hope you are doing well and relaxing a bit after the recent release. Intrigued to see what's next, I think it was OPH? That should be a great one.

The volume is different because the build method is different.  



The instructions for you are in the works.  I'll have that soon.  Just had to take today to rest. I am too exhausted to work right now, and under those conditions, the models do not return useful results.



After I calculate your usage patterns, I will be building OPH 6G.

Oh cool, so the build is different for just the ultrasonics compared to the other formats, interesting.

I appreciate that, no worries, I know Sunday is usually your rest day! 

I just wanted to reach out briefly, and yeah, hybrids in the past have been okay, so they can be on the table, so to speak.

I'm sure OPH will be very interesting, I know you in particular are looking forward to it. Hopefully it can help the lungs.

[Ampersnd]

I had a quick question about the DRS included to DMSI.
Is the attached DRS essentially the same as using DRS on its own? Meaning - putting to the side the DMSI-specific optimizations - can I assume that DRS is running more or less the same?

If I were a public figure, or experiencing a ton of work-related energy attacks, but I'm also running DMSI+DRS, am I protected in a similar way to someone who simply runs DRS?

[Shannon]

I had a quick question about the DRS included to DMSI.

Is the attached DRS essentially the same as using DRS on its own? Meaning - putting to the side the DMSI-specific optimizations - can I assume that DRS is running more or less the same?



If I were a public figure, or experiencing a ton of work-related energy attacks, but I'm also running DMSI+DRS, am I protected in a similar way to someone who simply runs DRS?

DRS is not attached to DMSI, as in concatenation.  It's script is integrated into the script of DMSI, such that when it is built, it forces the instructions to balance for it's influence as well.

DRS is having very close to the exact same effects in both cases.  The reason it takes longer to run DRS when it is separate is that it is not sharing resources the same way as when the script is integrated.  But the end result is very similar for DRS v2 in either case.

[Shannon]

The volume is different because the build method is different.  



The instructions for you are in the works.  I'll have that soon.  Just had to take today to rest. I am too exhausted to work right now, and under those conditions, the models do not return useful results.



After I calculate your usage patterns, I will be building OPH 6G.

Oh cool, so the build is different for just the ultrasonics compared to the other formats, interesting.

I appreciate that, no worries, I know Sunday is usually your rest day! 

I just wanted to reach out briefly, and yeah, hybrids in the past have been okay, so they can be on the table, so to speak.

I'm sure OPH will be very interesting, I know you in particular are looking forward to it. Hopefully it can help the lungs.

Have you tried Masked format?

EDIT: According to the models, you will do best using Ultrasonic format for DMSI v5.1, and Hybrid will be strongly triggering resistance.

I am working on your instructions, but it should come as no surprise that it is like pulling teeth from a chicken, and I will want to verify that the answers are as accurate as I can make them before I share them with you. So please be patient while I do this. Accuracy, not speed, is what is my focus.