Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

AbondanceCH,

you bring good points, IMHO.

On one hand, if you are really serious about a certain goal, you won't mind investing time in reaching it.

but the long listening periods definitely limit how many programs that I can purchase at any given time...

you are on something when suggesting to rebuild popular programs to shorten their listening periods could be profitable...

time is precious...

Another option would be if new technology would allow running multiple programs at the same time...

The trio ME/DMSI/UMS could be quite something... ;-)

Don't you think it would make the most sense to achieve the primary goal of one title consistently for the majority of users before we start trying to divide 1 by 3 and get 1 as a result?

Shannon,

you are probably right...

I guess that your products are addressing many core and fundamental human desires that are naturally pursued simultaneously. The urge to mimick that with your subs is strong.

So, if it was possible to use multiple programs in a multitask mode, despite some tradeoff such as slower or weaker results, I would be interested into that...

The current programs basically already are multiple programs at a time, because they seek to achieve one primary goal by utilizing the efforts of many other goals which are all working together to achieve the primary goal.  In some cases, the entire scripts of full titles has been added to the skeleton script to enable this.  The difference is that as a single script, I can make everything point to, enhance and support the main goal.

I am clearly influenced by your programs... and when I use a program, there is pretty much only the program goal running in my mind for several months and I neglect other areas of life in the meantime... and this is hardly sustainable to be in that mode for a full year.

Just 2 days ago, I did entertain the idea to give DMSI program a shot when available before waiting the recommended UMS 12 months... in part because I have not been intimate for a woman for about 3 months.

My behavior is deeply influenced by my subconscious and its programming. In those last 3 months, I got few opportunities to connect with few women... I just simply didn't take action into that direction. The idea to do something to have an intimate relation simply faded away because my mind automatically focus back on the main goal which is to reach monetary success.

That is how we reach major goals like these programs are trying to achieve.  Achieving Ultimate Monetary Success is a huge goal, and not only does that program have many sub-goals, it also has to be split up into different stages to enable you to handle all of it at once.  I don't do that because it's fun, I do it because when you pay me, I expect to have the program you paid for actually achieve the goal for you.  This is what it takes - and even programs like UMS v2 may take more than one run-through to accomplish the goal fully.  If you want to achieve a huge goal like UMS, you have to be willing to put in the time, and focus on that goal until you actually achieve it.

I think that I have read similar thoughts in 2 other UMS journals (giving DMSI a shot before completing UMS)...

Of course you have.  Every day that goes by, social media, video games, advertising and games all are training people more and more to expect, demand and require instant results, and have less and less perseverance towards a major goal that take s a long time and a lot of effort.  Most people who are influenced by this effect get bored at the drop of a hat and they are addicted to the dopamine hit of "new and shiny", which is why some of my customers switch programs like they change clothes.

On top of that, no matter what anyone does, it's going to require time and at least some effort for you to achieve UMS.  (Although I have to say, some of what I have personally seen and experienced on this program has blown my mind as to just how little effort is really needed to make huge amounts of money these days, if you do the right things.  And sometimes, it takes a lot less time than it would have even just 10 years ago.

But still, most people aren't interested in putting in time and effort to achieve the goal.  They want to get that dopamine hit from the next, the new, the latest and greatest.  

With the exception of the OF program (I wonder why), it seems like a lot of users have a hard time following long listen periods (above 6 months). I base this impression simply by looking at the evolution of the number of journals for a certain program. It seems like there is a very high number of journals right at the release and the number is rapidly shrinking after few weeks.

See above.

If your products could pull my subconscious mind to work on few goals all at once, this is something that I wish could be possible.

There are many, many different sub-goals just in the skeleton script at this point.  All of them working in concert to support and help bring about the primary goal.  Your subconscious is typically doing the equivalent of 25+ different things at any given time  while it is executing one of my 5.75G or later scripts, even if the program only has a single goal statement in the core script script.  This is because of how much needs to be done to prevent self sabotage, overcome resistance, deal with fear, make sure that you focus properly, and so on and so forth, yada yada yada.  There are many many good reasons I did not stop at 4G or even 5G, which was when we only had what would now be the scripting that directs your subconscious to the primary goal.  All of these other goals and sub-goals are there because they all make it much faster, better, easier and more certain that you actually will achieve the primary goal of the program.

That being said, I am a happy and satisfied client. I don't mind much about the guaranty and voiding it as I have never requested any refund.

I am just brainstorming ideas... AbundanceCH suggested that if listening period could be shortened, that would be beneficial. I suggest a different approach which I think has been considered at some point as a 6G goal.

IMHO, those 2 suggestions are just ways to fulfill a need. The need is to pursue several goals in the same year.

Is it possible? Maybe yes, maybe no. I'm just expressing some feedback about using your products.

I am just observing that usage period recommendation is growing since I have been introduced to the company... I wonder if you have some stats about the typical user listening habit. Is the typical user thoughtfully listen for the whole recommended period or are those who do are some kind of rare birds?

I'm glad you're satisfied. 

The listening period being shortened will require one or more of the following: less complex and challenging primary goals, better execution, more cooperation, better usage patterns.  I can make a sub right now that wouldn't require long at all to work, but the goal would be simple and most of what you guys want is the complex, challenging goals.  Stuff nobody else is even willing to try, unless they don't care if it works, like fear removal and male enhancement.

When I release NSLW, you'll see that it works quite quickly for those who use it.  It has a relatively small set of script statements compared to most of the big guns type stuff and it's not making a physical change.  Laser Focus and Concentration works noticeably in less than an hour, and has the potential to replace ADD medication in some cases.  But nobody cares about that one, because it's not flashy and exciting. 

The period of usage grows as the difficulty and complexity of the goal and the resulting program grows, and the amount of change that you must do at a deep level grows.  None of this would take so long if most of that time were not being spent dealing with simple resistance for most of the time you're using the program.  Sure, I'm working to overcome resistance better and faster, and that will reduce the usage times, but the end result is still going to be that you have to make changes to yourself that will still take time no matter what I do.

I would estimate that if it were not for resistance, UMS v2 would probably only require a single 5 month run-through.  Most of the rest of that would be your subconscious moving chess pieces on the board behind the scenes to make everything come together. 

So you see, not only are you already running the equivalent of multiple programs with each of my advanced titles, you're also asking me to work on the most difficult challenges there are.  If you guys really want subs that work faster, then we have to stop focusing on incredibly difficult goals.  Advancing the tech will work towards the shorter usage times as well, but the biggest issue is goals that are incredibly difficult, complex and challenging to actually achieve.

The alternative to that is, I can start making 4G subs, pumping out a million of 'em, and not caring if they actually achieve their goals.  Then you can run multiple titles at once, and jump from program to program all day if that's what you want to do.

I restrict people to a single title at a time for three very good reasons: A) Because with the goal being to actually achieve the program's goals, we cannot divide the attention and resources.  B) Because I am already doing many different things in the script simultaneously in order to actually and successfully achieve that one goal. C) Because the minute I say you guys can use multiple programs, the herd is going to start using so many at once together that they get no result but turbulence. 

The other day I ran a test of the latest experimental on myself.  I ran it for just 2 loops.  It obliterated my UMS run, a whole week of it, in just those two hours.  And when I started back on UMS I was loopy as hell and getting headaches and unable to work for a couple days.  And that was after taking 4 days off both of them!  That experimental isn't even full 5.8G yet - it's just testing the new build modifications, which by themselves will seriously increase the data input.

There is no getting around the following facts:

1. 100% divided by 2 is 50%, and 100% divided by 3 is 33.33%.  Presuming there is no conflict in the scripts of two or three titles at once, you're dividing your resources, and that is inescapable, and has inescapable consequences.  Less speed, less impact, less success, less achievement.
2. If you focus all of your resources on achieving one goal and the sub-goals that result in it, then you are much more likely to achieve that goal.
3. Unless and until I find some amazing way to turn off fear and or resistance much faster and more easily that what I have come up with so far, we are going to continue requiring scripts that require a lot of focus on one primary goal and many sub-goals to achieve the primary goal.
4. While this is true, running multiple advanced titles is going to cause you problems and turbulence, satisfying your impatience and killing your achievement of the goals. 

So the key to enabling the POTENTIAL to run multiple subs at once is to enable me to create subs that don't have to do 25+ things before they ever get started on the primary goal, and for that we basically need to remove fear.  So far my best efforts to do that even after years of work have been functional, but very, very slow.

[Shannon]

If your products could pull my subconscious mind to work on few goals all at once, this is something that I wish could be possible.

Shannon has already stated many times that it's impossible at the moment to combine subs and it might never be possible.

It seems to me that the very reason some programs are so complex and take so long to achieve all of their results is because they already combine several older programs into one. 

Ultimate Monetary Success, for example, combines versions of Ultra Success/Luck Magnifier, Emotional Healing & Pain Relief, with the latest modules for Fear Removal and the Directional Reflection Shield.  And more....

Rewriting years, even decades of programming that has been keeping me relatively poor in just 12 months seems like an exceptional bargain and amazing feat to me.  The extra-credit for being a good person with wealth include a better love life, improved self confidence, and many aspects of being an alpha-male.  A successful UMS run may mean you don't even need some of the more focused and quicker programs.

Well said, sir.

[Chris P. Bacon]

Shannon I guess I never shared what laser focus and concentration did to me.

I have ADHD and was hoping laser focus and concentration would help tremendously. It did help but the amount of stress and tension that was caused on it made my neck hurt and gave me headaches.

That stress is most certainly on my end.
Also the most recent MHS made me raging mad for no conscious reason.

[UniversalMan]

Hi all...since I stopped with ME (for now I am satisfied with the results, I will maybe run it again or maybe not at some later time), I thought you guys needed to know how much I gained in 2 months of listening.
So, I started the listening scedule as recomended, but after 7 days I changed to 1 loop, 3days on, 1day off (you need to find your sweet spot by yourself) ok, ok....so, in 2 months I gained 1cm in lentgh and 3mm in girth.

One of the reasons I quitted ME is the fact that I want to deal with other issues before I continue with (If I will still want to continue) ME.

So, I just wanted to report that it works!!!
Well done @Shannon

[Sky]

Hi @Shannon ,

I was wondering if you could give me a recommendation for my next sub. I'm going to finish OFV3 in December and I finished LTU6 5.75G this past January.

My goals are to improve my life overall by getting a girlfriend, expanding my social circle, and becoming more focused on projects that will help me get a better job and become more financially successful and happier.

I was thinking AM6 would be a great subliminal, but the last time I ran it, I started having major symptoms of my schizoaffective disorder/psychosis on Stage 3 and I got really angry. That anger makes me afraid to run the subliminal again because I don't want it to make me lose my job or my friends that I've recently made, and I don't want to get angry at my family either. So I thought I should wait until AM7 comes out since it would be better scripted. I really wanted to run AM6 and WM2 to get a girlfriend and become a boss lol, though the "becoming a boss part" is just an overexaggeration. I just like the program goals like seek the challenge and becoming more masculine and manifesting friends. I ran AM5 in the past and had great results on it, but AM6 I couldn't finish.

I've been on therapy/psychiatry for 3 years now with medication for my disorder, so in theory AM6 might work just fine for me since the medication should prevent a relapse in symptoms and OFV3 should have removed my fears triggered on my past AM6 run.

I talked with my family about what subliminal I should run, and my brother suggested I run manifest your perfect large breasted sexual lover 5G to get more experience in the girl department. I'm skeptical that subliminal will work, but I know that belief isn't required to manifest the right girl. My brother also suggested I run stage 7 of LTU6 since I ran it once already, or I could rerun all of LTU6 since I had results like making a new friend at the gym, starting my google certificate post0LTU6 to get a better job in a field i'm interested in, going to the gym, and eventually months after LTU6 and on OFV3 I got a job with a company I really wanted to work at. On OFV3, I event recently got a nutritionist and want to travel too.

I also thought USM2 would be good because I could start trying to amass wealth too, but I want to improve things in the girl department, and continue improving my life overall on LTU6 to be happier, more focused on my professional development goals, and get more supportive friends as I'm in the stage of life where I am 28 years old. I already made a friend on LTU6 that introduced me to his friends and so I wouldn't need the "manifest a circle of friends component" from AM6 necessarily.

What do you think would be best, LTU6, AM6, or Manifest your perfect large breasted sexual lover 5G? I thought DMSI would be good too but it's still experimental in terms of meeting a girl and having by product benefits like self development. I thought LTU6 might be the best choice because it's the latest tech and in theory the more I improve my subconscious belief system, the better my life will become as I understand it, or I could run manifest your perfect large breasted lover first to see if it works before LTU6 as LTU6 doesn't have a finding a girlfriend component in it.

[Shannon]

Shannon I guess I never shared what laser focus and concentration did to me.

I have ADHD and was hoping laser focus and concentration would help tremendously. It did help but the amount of stress and tension that was caused on it made my neck hurt and gave me headaches.

That stress is most certainly on my end.
Also the most recent MHS made me raging mad for no conscious reason.

That tells me that for some reason, you are trying very hard to resist and fight what the programs are trying to do.  Nobody else has reported these responses, so if you have any ideas why you're responding that way, it would be helpful for making adjustments.

[Shannon]

Hi all...since I stopped with ME (for now I am satisfied with the results, I will maybe run it again or maybe not at some later time), I thought you guys needed to know how much I gained in 2 months of listening.
So, I started the listening scedule as recomended, but after 7 days I changed to 1 loop, 3days on, 1day off (you need to find your sweet spot by yourself) ok, ok....so, in 2 months I gained 1cm in lentgh and 3mm in girth.

One of the reasons I quitted ME is the fact that I want to deal with other issues before I continue with (If I will still want to continue) ME.

So, I just wanted to report that it works!!!
Well done @Shannon  

Excellent news!

How are you measuring girth? Circumference?

[Shannon]

Hi @Shannon ,

I was wondering if you could give me a recommendation for my next sub. I'm going to finish OFV3 in December and I finished LTU6 5.75G this past January.

My goals are to improve my life overall by getting a girlfriend, expanding my social circle, and becoming more focused on projects that will help me get a better job and become more financially successful and happier.

I was thinking AM6 would be a great subliminal, but the last time I ran it, I started having major symptoms of my schizoaffective disorder/psychosis on Stage 3 and I got really angry. That anger makes me afraid to run the subliminal again because I don't want it to make me lose my job or my friends that I've recently made, and I don't want to get angry at my family either. So I thought I should wait until AM7 comes out since it would be better scripted. I really wanted to run AM6 and WM2 to get a girlfriend and become a boss lol, though the "becoming a boss part" is just an overexaggeration. I just like the program goals like seek the challenge and becoming more masculine and manifesting friends. I ran AM5 in the past and had great results on it, but AM6 I couldn't finish.

I've been on therapy/psychiatry for 3 years now with medication for my disorder, so in theory AM6 might work just fine for me since the medication should prevent a relapse in symptoms and OFV3 should have removed my fears triggered on my past AM6 run.

I talked with my family about what subliminal I should run, and my brother suggested I run manifest your perfect large breasted sexual lover 5G to get more experience in the girl department. I'm skeptical that subliminal will work, but I know that belief isn't required to manifest the right girl. My brother also suggested I run stage 7 of LTU6 since I ran it once already, or I could rerun all of LTU6 since I had results like making a new friend at the gym, starting my google certificate post0LTU6 to get a better job in a field i'm interested in, going to the gym, and eventually months after LTU6 and on OFV3 I got a job with a company I really wanted to work at. On OFV3, I event recently got a nutritionist and want to travel too.

I also thought USM2 would  be good because I could start trying to amass wealth too, but I want to improve things in the girl department, and continue improving my life overall on LTU6 to be happier, more focused on my professional development goals, and get more supportive friends as I'm in the stage of life where I am 28 years old. I already made a friend on LTU6 that introduced me to his friends and so I wouldn't need the "manifest a circle of friends component" from AM6 necessarily.

What do you think would be best, LTU6, AM6, or Manifest your perfect large breasted sexual lover 5G? I thought DMSI would be good too but it's still experimental in terms of meeting a girl and having by product benefits like self development. I thought LTU6 might be the best choice because it's the latest tech and in theory the more I improve my subconscious belief system, the better my life will become as I understand it, or I could run manifest your perfect large breasted lover first to see if it works before LTU6 as LTU6 doesn't have a finding a girlfriend component in it.

First, if you have psychological medications that you're taking for a disorder, you should never be using any subliminal without the guidance and supervision of your prescriber.  I would also suggest that you avoid anything that has triggered a negative reaction in that direction in the past, since we don't understand the "why" behind the disorder or the ab-reaction.

If you're interested in advancing the girl front, you don't want to do UMS; likewise, if you're interested in advancing the monetary front, you don't want to focus on women.  You'll have to choose one and go from there, since they tend to be contradictory goals.

If you choose financial, then UMS v2.  If you choose women, then either DMSI 3.4 or the MYP subliminal are your choices.  I'll detail these more in a moment.

If you want a more all around improvement, then Stage 7 of LTU is a good idea to run for 1-3 months or until you feel you've achieved whatever goals you have for it.

On the woman front, MYP subliminals are very polar with results.  Not because they don't work, but because they require that you not prevent them from achieving their goals.  The vast majority of people who use them will use them while self sabotaging because they're either afraid of achieving the manifestation or afraid of achieving the goal.  Fear of achieving the manifestation results when a core belief you hold would be proven wrong if the manifestation works; that part of you therefore will typically attempt to sabotage to maintain it's current "safe and comfortable" beliefs to "keep you safe".

If the resistance is to achieving the goal of the manifestation, that usually has something to do with a belief that having such a thing or person show up in your life will either present some sort of threat or again, disrupt a deeply held belief.

The way to use an AYP, or any manifestation subliminal, is to set it and forget it.  Don't look for results; just set it and forget it.  It is the anxiety that comes from disbelief in the possibility of success that results in focusing on results, which kills the manifestation.  The disbelief is typically resulting from a belief or set of beliefs that contradicts the possibility and validity of manifestations.

If you are skeptical, then it is likely that you hold these contradictory beliefs that are seeking to preserve themselves by "being skeptical", and in this case, that "skepticism" would really be self sabotage efforts masquerading as skepticism.

In that case, I would suggest DMSI 3.4, which has a lot more scripting and ability to handle self sabotage.

[Chris P. Bacon]

Shannon I guess I never shared what laser focus and concentration did to me.

I have ADHD and was hoping laser focus and concentration would help tremendously. It did help but the amount of stress and tension that was caused on it made my neck hurt and gave me headaches.

That stress is most certainly on my end.
Also the most recent MHS made me raging mad for no conscious reason.

That tells me that for some reason, you are trying very hard to resist and fight what the programs are trying to do.  Nobody else has reported these responses, so if you have any ideas why you're responding that way, it would be helpful for making adjustments.

I personally think that my manner of focusing was unhealthy and that I wasn't willing to adopt a new concept of focus but rather "translate" the instructions of the subliminal into one that fit my framework instead of changing it to what a healthy version of focus could look like. I had (at least I think it's past tense because of OF) a fear of allowing someone or something other than myself directing my steps that prevented a lot of the subliminal from getting through. To my logical self it looked like

External source of instruction = feelings of inability and fear of loss of control and therefore subliminals have to be ran through my current paradigm or I feel not good enough or fear that a sub will control me. 

As I write this I think I personally struggled or possibly still struggle to trust subs and fully allow them to change me. I can see that belief running in the background of a lot of the subs I ran where I reached a plateau or flatline in progression of the goals. And I kind of feel like for the longest time that I did not feel good enough and came to depend on subs to try to be a functioning human all the while pushing back against their instruction because I felt inferior and incapable when I needed to be told something. Its a tangled web so I'm not sure I have it right.

As far as MHS is concerned I have no idea. I had an incident where I yelled at my mom for something very minor and that isn't me so I stopped before I could figure it out. I walked around low key irritated the whole time on that sub, which was a few weeks I think.

[UniversalMan]

Hi all...since I stopped with ME (for now I am satisfied with the results, I will maybe run it again or maybe not at some later time), I thought you guys needed to know how much I gained in 2 months of listening.
So, I started the listening scedule as recomended, but after 7 days I changed to 1 loop, 3days on, 1day off (you need to find your sweet spot by yourself) ok, ok....so, in 2 months I gained 1cm in lentgh and 3mm in girth.

One of the reasons I quitted ME is the fact that I want to deal with other issues before I continue with (If I will still want to continue) ME.

So, I just wanted to report that it works!!!
Well done @Shannon  

Excellent news!

How are you measuring girth? Circumference?

yes circumference on 3 points root ,middle and top just behind the penis head.

Btw Shanon, Male enhancement is focused on penis enlargement, yes, but does it have anything else like a component to enhance the user to feel manlier?
(not sure how to explain this one)

[samba99]

Hi Shannon,

Hope you doing great and wonderful. As you can see your subs are becoming more and more exciting hence we would like to hear from you more about DMSI.

You know the last update was 2 years ago! So now you finally come to the script of DMSI, how does it look like? Since you have learned alot since last update, Can you now see the flaws in the script?

What are you currently working on? Which module?

I think you may be surprised to see how many new sales this new DMSI will bring. Anyways, I am basically asking for a comprehensive update, not for the purpose of hyping, not really, but because we are actually interested to know more.

Hint: TID continues to amaze me... Thank you again.

[KingDavid93]

Hi @Shannon

I’ve been thinking about something for a while now- there was a period of time in my life where I had what would be akin to full to close to full execution of DMSI

I wouldn’t say 100% execution because women wouldn’t do all of the work and I wasn’t always getting the caliber of women I was interested in (and I would often sabotage myself in some manner and wouldn’t take it to the close as often as I should’ve been)- but I did get a lot of attention from women wherever I went and they would throw themselves at me and I wouldn’t really approach them all that often if at all, nor did I ever really talk much when I interacted, often times quickly worked my way into a make out session (and being as how this was in my younger years that was often considered a great success in my eyes at that time)

Long story short, up until 6-7 years ago (for a period lasting around 5-6 years, I’d say around the ages of 16-21) I was presented with tons of opportunities when it came to women (most of them I messed up which is one of my largest regrets in life and why I would really love to fully execute DMSI at some point when I start using it)

This all came to a halt due to (as least due to what I believe to be the reasons) me gaining a much of weight and becoming a much bigger overall guy, starting to sport a fuller beard (I was mainly clean shaven or close to it at that time), I lost some hair although not too much thankfully, mostly some thinning and receding in the front and my face overall has changed shaped and appearance- overall I assume due to aging- I have been working on fixing things although most things that I have tried just don’t seem to have worked

I’m wondering since I’ve had a taste of what the product description of DMSI entails would that mean upon full execution- that I would be able to return to my former glory (if not an even better version, especially due to me being older and more experienced now)?

I’ve used 3.0 and 3.1 and 3.2 for around 6+ months each (and a bit of 3.3) I’ve seen trickles of success here and there but nothing consistent

[Sky]

Hi @Shannon ,

I was wondering if you could give me a recommendation for my next sub. I'm going to finish OFV3 in December and I finished LTU6 5.75G this past January.

My goals are to improve my life overall by getting a girlfriend, expanding my social circle, and becoming more focused on projects that will help me get a better job and become more financially successful and happier.

I was thinking AM6 would be a great subliminal, but the last time I ran it, I started having major symptoms of my schizoaffective disorder/psychosis on Stage 3 and I got really angry. That anger makes me afraid to run the subliminal again because I don't want it to make me lose my job or my friends that I've recently made, and I don't want to get angry at my family either. So I thought I should wait until AM7 comes out since it would be better scripted. I really wanted to run AM6 and WM2 to get a girlfriend and become a boss lol, though the "becoming a boss part" is just an overexaggeration. I just like the program goals like seek the challenge and becoming more masculine and manifesting friends. I ran AM5 in the past and had great results on it, but AM6 I couldn't finish.

I've been on therapy/psychiatry for 3 years now with medication for my disorder, so in theory AM6 might work just fine for me since the medication should prevent a relapse in symptoms and OFV3 should have removed my fears triggered on my past AM6 run.

I talked with my family about what subliminal I should run, and my brother suggested I run manifest your perfect large breasted sexual lover 5G to get more experience in the girl department. I'm skeptical that subliminal will work, but I know that belief isn't required to manifest the right girl. My brother also suggested I run stage 7 of LTU6 since I ran it once already, or I could rerun all of LTU6 since I had results like making a new friend at the gym, starting my google certificate post0LTU6 to get a better job in a field i'm interested in, going to the gym, and eventually months after LTU6 and on OFV3 I got a job with a company I really wanted to work at. On OFV3, I event recently got a nutritionist and want to travel too.

I also thought USM2 would  be good because I could start trying to amass wealth too, but I want to improve things in the girl department, and continue improving my life overall on LTU6 to be happier, more focused on my professional development goals, and get more supportive friends as I'm in the stage of life where I am 28 years old. I already made a friend on LTU6 that introduced me to his friends and so I wouldn't need the "manifest a circle of friends component" from AM6 necessarily.

What do you think would be best, LTU6, AM6, or Manifest your perfect large breasted sexual lover 5G? I thought DMSI would be good too but it's still experimental in terms of meeting a girl and having by product benefits like self development. I thought LTU6 might be the best choice because it's the latest tech and in theory the more I improve my subconscious belief system, the better my life will become as I understand it, or I could run manifest your perfect large breasted lover first to see if it works before LTU6 as LTU6 doesn't have a finding a girlfriend component in it.

First, if you have psychological medications that you're taking for a disorder, you should never be using any subliminal without the guidance and supervision of your prescriber.  I would also suggest that you avoid anything that has triggered a negative reaction in that direction in the past, since we don't understand the "why" behind the disorder or the ab-reaction.

If you're interested in advancing the girl front, you don't want to do UMS; likewise, if you're interested in advancing the monetary front, you don't want to focus on women.  You'll have to choose one and go from there, since they tend to be contradictory goals.

If you choose financial, then UMS v2.  If you choose women, then either DMSI 3.4 or the MYP subliminal are your choices.  I'll detail these more in a moment.

If you want a more all around improvement, then Stage 7 of LTU is a good idea to run for 1-3 months or until you feel you've achieved whatever goals you have for it.

On the woman front, MYP subliminals are very polar with results.  Not because they don't work, but because they require that you not prevent them from achieving their goals.  The vast majority of people who use them will use them while self sabotaging because they're either afraid of achieving the manifestation or afraid of achieving the goal.  Fear of achieving the manifestation results when a core belief you hold would be proven wrong if the manifestation works; that part of you therefore will typically attempt to sabotage to maintain it's current "safe and comfortable" beliefs to "keep you safe".

If the resistance is to achieving the goal of the manifestation, that usually has something to do with a belief that having such a thing or person show up in your life will either present some sort of threat or again, disrupt a deeply held belief.

The way to use an AYP, or any manifestation subliminal, is to set it and forget it.  Don't look for results; just set it and forget it.  It is the anxiety that comes from disbelief in the possibility of success that results in focusing on results, which kills the manifestation.  The disbelief is typically resulting from a belief or set of beliefs that contradicts the possibility and validity of manifestations.

If you are skeptical, then it is likely that you hold these contradictory beliefs that are seeking to preserve themselves by "being skeptical", and in this case, that "skepticism" would really be self sabotage efforts masquerading as skepticism.

In that case, I would suggest DMSI 3.4, which has a lot more scripting and ability to handle self sabotage.

Thank you Shannon!

[Shannon]

Hi all...since I stopped with ME (for now I am satisfied with the results, I will maybe run it again or maybe not at some later time), I thought you guys needed to know how much I gained in 2 months of listening.
So, I started the listening scedule as recomended, but after 7 days I changed to 1 loop, 3days on, 1day off (you need to find your sweet spot by yourself) ok, ok....so, in 2 months I gained 1cm in lentgh and 3mm in girth.

One of the reasons I quitted ME is the fact that I want to deal with other issues before I continue with (If I will still want to continue) ME.

So, I just wanted to report that it works!!!
Well done @Shannon  

Excellent news!

How are you measuring girth? Circumference?

yes circumference on 3 points root ,middle and top just behind the penis head.

Btw Shanon, Male enhancement is focused on penis enlargement, yes, but does it have anything else like a component to enhance the user to feel manlier?
(not sure how to explain this one)

ME only affects the size of the penis.