Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[MegaMan]

@Shannon just finished my first run-through of MLS4 with a 9 days on - 3 days off schedule. How many days should I take off before starting UMSv2 stage 1?

Sorry to bother you with this. I checked the sales page of UMSv2 Stage 1. There was no instructions pdf in the downloads section. Neither found the info in this thread, could have missed it here.

[Shannon]

How big is "too big" and what would the issues of having it too big be? Aren't vaginas designed to stretch to be able to accommodate just about any size? After all, they are able to push a baby out of there, which is much bigger than even a very large penis.

"Too big" is subjective.  From a woman's point of view, If you have a woman who won't touch a man with less than 10", then "too big" might be 13"+.  If you have a tiny petite, too big might be anything bigger than 5.".  If it's so long that it constantly bangs on her uterine cervix during sex and that is painful for her, then it's too big.  If the thickness hurts for whatever reason, then it's too big.  While a vagina is designed to stretch and is very resilient, and some women love and crave deep cervical poundings, some women find this painful.  Nobody wants to have painful sex.  Giving birth isn't what I'd call a fun experience for most women, so it's a bad comparison.  Just because you could push something bigger than a bowling ball out your body if you tried hard enough doesn't mean you will want to, or want to do it more than once, or not need surgery to deal with the consequences.

From a man's point of view, too big might be a size at which he has trouble finding women who are willing to have sex with him because of how big his penis is (for the reasons above), or a size at which getting hard becomes difficult because he simply doesn't have sufficient blood in his body.  All of these are subjective.  There's no hard and fast rule.

Sounds like there would be no benefit from running this, only potential downsides, and that mine might already be too long for some women.

Some guys are not going to need to run it.  If that's you, then that's probably good news!

[Shannon]

@Shannon I did my first 3 loop listen (US at night) and woke feeling relaxed and bliss so thought I should increase the intensity.

How would you advise I do that please? and when, after this cycle of 3 loops is completed or shall I increase it straight away?

Ive done the 1st day ON. Tonight will be 2nd day ON. Then I have 2 days off.

ill now go update my journal about this.

If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

If I wake up every morning feeling stressed and anxious with tension in my neck and shoulders, should I increase exposure, or just keep going? I’m following the base instructions of 1 loop for 2 days, followed by 3 days off

I suggest that you increase the loops by one for the next ASRB2 cycle.

[Shannon]

@Shannon just finished my first run-through of MLS4 with a 9 days on - 3 days off schedule. How many days should I take off before starting UMSv2 stage 1?

Sorry to bother you with this. I checked the sales page of UMSv2 Stage 1. There was no instructions pdf in the downloads section. Neither found the info in this thread, could have missed it here.

A week off should be good.

[Shannon]

@Shannon I did my first 3 loop listen (US at night) and woke feeling relaxed and bliss so thought I should increase the intensity.

How would you advise I do that please? and when, after this cycle of 3 loops is completed or shall I increase it straight away?

Ive done the 1st day ON. Tonight will be 2nd day ON. Then I have 2 days off.

ill now go update my journal about this.

If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

wow!  I thought bliss meant I was stonewalling etc as I associated negativity as the subconscious fighting the sub and thus indicating its working but this really made me smile well this bit "... that means its working." lol

Ok so im sticking with 3 loops mate!

Could you kindly take a look at my last post and give me your feedback please as well im excited but need you to confirm what you think please (which you have in a way by saying its working but still I need that extra reassurance lol)

heres my latest post: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Jake-...#pid246612

and thank you

After reading your post, I don't know what feedback you want.

[Jake2015]

@Shannon I did my first 3 loop listen (US at night) and woke feeling relaxed and bliss so thought I should increase the intensity.

How would you advise I do that please? and when, after this cycle of 3 loops is completed or shall I increase it straight away?

Ive done the 1st day ON. Tonight will be 2nd day ON. Then I have 2 days off.

ill now go update my journal about this.

If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

wow!  I thought bliss meant I was stonewalling etc as I associated negativity as the subconscious fighting the sub and thus indicating its working but this really made me smile well this bit "... that means its working." lol

Ok so im sticking with 3 loops mate!

Could you kindly take a look at my last post and give me your feedback please as well im excited but need you to confirm what you think please (which you have in a way by saying its working but still I need that extra reassurance lol)

heres my latest post: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Jake-...#pid246612

and thank you

After reading your post, I don't know what feedback you want.

It seemed that I had overcome procrastination yesterday atleast to me it seemed that way. Today whilst listening to the sub in the day its causing disturbance, frustration and agitation in a mild to medium way though.

[Shannon]

@Shannon I did my first 3 loop listen (US at night) and woke feeling relaxed and bliss so thought I should increase the intensity.

How would you advise I do that please? and when, after this cycle of 3 loops is completed or shall I increase it straight away?

Ive done the 1st day ON. Tonight will be 2nd day ON. Then I have 2 days off.

ill now go update my journal about this.

If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

wow!  I thought bliss meant I was stonewalling etc as I associated negativity as the subconscious fighting the sub and thus indicating its working but this really made me smile well this bit "... that means its working." lol

Ok so im sticking with 3 loops mate!

Could you kindly take a look at my last post and give me your feedback please as well im excited but need you to confirm what you think please (which you have in a way by saying its working but still I need that extra reassurance lol)

heres my latest post: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Jake-...#pid246612

and thank you

After reading your post, I don't know what feedback you want.

It seemed that I had overcome procrastination yesterday atleast to me it seemed that way. Today whilst listening to the sub in the day its causing disturbance, frustration and agitation in a mild to medium way though.

Overcoming procrastination says that you are having periods of significantly less fear in that direction, and the disturbances today indicate that some part of your subconscious is upset that it has to cooperate when it doesn't want to.  I see that irritability and crankiness in myself and Kristen occasionally as well.

[Jake2015]

If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

wow!  I thought bliss meant I was stonewalling etc as I associated negativity as the subconscious fighting the sub and thus indicating its working but this really made me smile well this bit "... that means its working." lol

Ok so im sticking with 3 loops mate!

Could you kindly take a look at my last post and give me your feedback please as well im excited but need you to confirm what you think please (which you have in a way by saying its working but still I need that extra reassurance lol)

heres my latest post: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Jake-...#pid246612

and thank you

After reading your post, I don't know what feedback you want.

It seemed that I had overcome procrastination yesterday atleast to me it seemed that way. Today whilst listening to the sub in the day its causing disturbance, frustration and agitation in a mild to medium way though.

Overcoming procrastination says that you are having periods of significantly less fear in that direction, and the disturbances today indicate that some part of your subconscious is upset that it has to cooperate when it doesn't want to.  I see that irritability and crankiness in myself and Kristen occasionally as well.

Thanks alot mate. Makes sense. Its been a challenge today thats for sure. Im glad though that this is more proof im executing!

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's quote "15 minutes ago
I am finally on to the actual build of the program. Hopefully this can be completed and the program finished being published in 2-3 more days. I estimate that I'll be able to get about half done with the build today; the other half tomorrow; ad the the process of publishing, determining usage patterns, etc. may be finished tomorrow or the next day. We are almost there. "

Me:

Sweet!! What next? starting the Build of UMSv2 or ????

[AbundanceCH]

So for the ME sub will we have any sort of metrics to go by? For example expect 1 inch increase if listened to for 6 months or will just have to listen to it forever until we see results?

[RTBoss]

So for the ME sub will we have any sort of metrics to go by? For example expect 1 inch increase if listened to for 6 months or will just have to listen to it forever until we see results?

With a penile traction device, you could expect to gain 1-1.5 inches and some girth over 8-12 months wearing it 10 hours+ per day.

Perhaps use that time frame as a baseline.  Otherwise, you'll have usage instructions given by Shannon that the models determine are most effective.  If you don't get results using the prescribed looks during that time frame, you'll be eligible for a refund, obviously.

[Shannon]

Shannon's quote "15 minutes ago
I am finally on to the actual build of the program. Hopefully this can be completed and the program finished being published in 2-3 more days. I estimate that I'll be able to get about half done with the build today; the other half tomorrow; ad the the process of publishing, determining usage patterns, etc. may be finished tomorrow or the next day. We are almost there. "

Me:

  Sweet!! What next?  starting the Build of UMSv2  or ????

Stage 2 of UMSv2.

[Shannon]

So for the ME sub will we have any sort of metrics to go by? For example expect 1 inch increase if listened to for 6 months or will just have to listen to it forever until we see results?

Currently I don't know. We will see what comes out if the models for time per run. Otherwise we will have to see what it does by ising it. I suggest no expectations. Just let it show you what it can do.

[Habib]

So for the ME sub will we have any sort of metrics to go by? For example expect 1 inch increase if listened to for 6 months or will just have to listen to it forever until we see results?

Currently I don't know. We will see what comes out if the models for time per run. Otherwise we will have to see what it does by ising it. I suggest no expectations. Just let it show you what it can do.

Does this sub focus on growth and growth only? What about the shape? If it bend, can it make it grow straight? What if the growth make it more bend than it already is? It is certainly concerning