Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Jake2015]

One thing I'd like to point out is that this is exactly what I was working on correcting in MLS 4.0.  That's why it has a heavy dose of FRM and uses DRS.  It's designed to improve on everything V3 did well, and correct everything it did not do well.  It actually has more focus on FRM than OF v2, which was quite a shock to see coming out of the models again, and again, and again... I have only ever seen that happen one other time, and that was with a sub focused on sex.  There is a lot of fear involved in getting to sex and achieving one's full potential.  

So don't think you need to do OF before MLS 4.  MLS 4 should take care of that for you.

Hi @Shannon I havent been on for a while and read your above reply regarding MLS having more FRM then OFv2.

As you may recall, my reasons for starting with ILM subs in 2015 was to overcome my procrastination (& subsequent fears) surrounding learning and particularly academic learning (as im a mature student in university).

I am currently about to start my 9th cycle of OFv2, thus my 9th week, reducing the volume to 7/15 for this 9th cycle using US if you recall via my s10 samsung phone.

So far I havent felt or noticed any change or difference whatsoever, and would continue to go as low as 3/15 as you mentioned may be needed for some folks.

I having read what you said regarding a stronger/better/improved FRM (if I understood correctly) being in MLS and having read that MLS also deals with procrastination and lack of focus and motivation around studying as well as fear (anxiety, stress etc) based upon learning makes me now wonder shall I change to MLS?

I did 45 days of OFv1 then bought and changed to OFv2 as i am committed to actually get executing with your subs and get over my issues. So what do you suggest and advise please?

If you do suggest I change to MLS, then how shall I considering ill be in a the 9th cycle of OFv2, ie: Do i need some time off before starting MLS etc?

Im just really trying here mate, thanks.

Use it all the way through volume 3/15 before you decide what to do.

Okay thanks @Shannon

And if it does not work, I suggest you wait until 6G comes out to try again - if you want to keep trying.

thanks @Shannon 
Tbh knowing that MLS has more FRM than even OF v2 and knowing that MLS would give me more "tangible" results to notice, which is what I lack from some previous subs (such as OF); im very much tempted to jump onto MLS asap and start again from 13/15 volume and bring it down each cycle. 

I feel this way I will notice if the sub is working because of the changes in my behaviour and feelings towards studying. Something that is always ON my mind yet the action and doing part is hampered a lot.

any thoughts mate?

[Shannon]

Hi @Shannon I havent been on for a while and read your above reply regarding MLS having more FRM then OFv2.

As you may recall, my reasons for starting with ILM subs in 2015 was to overcome my procrastination (& subsequent fears) surrounding learning and particularly academic learning (as im a mature student in university).

I am currently about to start my 9th cycle of OFv2, thus my 9th week, reducing the volume to 7/15 for this 9th cycle using US if you recall via my s10 samsung phone.

So far I havent felt or noticed any change or difference whatsoever, and would continue to go as low as 3/15 as you mentioned may be needed for some folks.

I having read what you said regarding a stronger/better/improved FRM (if I understood correctly) being in MLS and having read that MLS also deals with procrastination and lack of focus and motivation around studying as well as fear (anxiety, stress etc) based upon learning makes me now wonder shall I change to MLS?

I did 45 days of OFv1 then bought and changed to OFv2 as i am committed to actually get executing with your subs and get over my issues. So what do you suggest and advise please?

If you do suggest I change to MLS, then how shall I considering ill be in a the 9th cycle of OFv2, ie: Do i need some time off before starting MLS etc?

Im just really trying here mate, thanks.

Use it all the way through volume 3/15 before you decide what to do.

Okay thanks @Shannon

And if it does not work, I suggest you wait until 6G comes out to try again - if you want to keep trying.

thanks @Shannon 
Tbh knowing that MLS has more FRM than even OF v2 and knowing that MLS would give me more "tangible" results to notice, which is what I lack from some previous subs (such as OF); im very much tempted to jump onto MLS asap and start again from 13/15 volume and bring it down each cycle. 

I feel this way I will notice if the sub is working because of the changes in my behaviour and feelings towards studying. Something that is always ON my mind yet the action and doing part is hampered a lot.

any thoughts mate?

Here's the problem.  Everything you have run, you have resisted.  You're apparently so good at it that I don't know how you're doing it.  Every time you run something, you spend months writing about how it doesn't work, and then you want to move on to the next program.  

MLS has over 120 different sub-goals.  That's a lot of input and a lot that could trigger fear; of course you're going to need more focus on FRM than OF in order to balance that.  That doesn't mean it's going to give you better or more tangible results.  Especially if you're somehow resisting OFv2!  

My thoughts are that you're wasting your time and money.  However you're managing to resist these programs at this point, it's bordering on a supernatural ability.  It does nobody any good for you to keep spending your money on these programs and just posting about how they don't work, when nothing I put in the script seems to make a difference and nothing I suggest you do does either.  It seems like unless I can change whatever is going on with 6G, subliminals just aren't going to work for you.  And if you end up being able to resist 6G too... well, congratulations, because that means you're never going to get results from any subliminal you use, and you're not going to get results from any other form of mind programming you try - except maybe self hypnosis.  But probably not even that.  The one thing nobody should be able to fully resist is OF v2 or later.

[reki]

Any news as to when the Sleep Induction Aid V3 5.75g will be released?

[freerad98]

No question,

Just wanna say Thank you for all that you do @Shannon

I second that!

[Jake2015]

Use it all the way through volume 3/15 before you decide what to do.

Okay thanks @Shannon

And if it does not work, I suggest you wait until 6G comes out to try again - if you want to keep trying.

thanks @Shannon 
Tbh knowing that MLS has more FRM than even OF v2 and knowing that MLS would give me more "tangible" results to notice, which is what I lack from some previous subs (such as OF); im very much tempted to jump onto MLS asap and start again from 13/15 volume and bring it down each cycle. 

I feel this way I will notice if the sub is working because of the changes in my behaviour and feelings towards studying. Something that is always ON my mind yet the action and doing part is hampered a lot.

any thoughts mate?

Here's the problem.  Everything you have run, you have resisted.  You're apparently so good at it that I don't know how you're doing it.  Every time you run something, you spend months writing about how it doesn't work, and then you want to move on to the next program.  

MLS has over 120 different sub-goals.  That's a lot of input and a lot that could trigger fear; of course you're going to need more focus on FRM than OF in order to balance that.  That doesn't mean it's going to give you better or more tangible results.  Especially if you're somehow resisting OFv2!  

My thoughts are that you're wasting your time and money.  However you're managing to resist these programs at this point, it's bordering on a supernatural ability.  It does nobody any good for you to keep spending your money on these programs and just posting about how they don't work, when nothing I put in the script seems to make a difference and nothing I suggest you do does either.  It seems like unless I can change whatever is going on with 6G, subliminals just aren't going to work for you.  And if you end up being able to resist 6G too... well, congratulations, because that means you're never going to get results from any subliminal you use, and you're not going to get results from any other form of mind programming you try - except maybe self hypnosis.  But probably not even that.  The one thing nobody should be able to fully resist is OF v2 or later.

I hear you and im still optimistic that the subliminals can and will work. I just need to somehow get past the resistance.

I will continue with OFv2 because triggering more fear from the MLS 120 sub-goals is definately not what I want. So ill do as you said, stick with OF v2 and keep brining the volume down to 3/15 if need be and then just keep at it.

Could you kindly share what I should be noticing or looking out for with OF v2, to know that im finally executing? I am not getting any dreams (that I wake and remember but ill check my journal to see if I did earlier on). I am also usually tired in the day anyway and am more so now since ive travelled back to europe and sleep cycle is again completely ruined. So im finding it hard to know if I even am executing or was.

So any help for this please? thanks mate.

Dont give up on me, im trying here and trying all I can.

[reki]

No question,

Just wanna say Thank you for all that you do @Shannon

I second that!

I third that

[Shannon]

@Shannon

Do you think OF V2  will be sufficient to cure stuttering and social anxiety or will that be better served by more specific programs?

I think that OF v2 will be sufficient to correct the symptoms of fear, if it is used properly.  Both stuttering and anxiety are just symptoms of an underlying fear being expressed.

@Shannon

Oh ok. E4 has healed a lot of issues but I think there are some ones that are fear based:

Stuttering 
Social anxiety 
Trust issues
Fear of failure (and success)
Fear of driving 
Hypochrondriac 

Will the effects of OF V2 be dramatic or subtle like E4?

Well, that depends.  How are you going to execute the script?

[Shannon]

No question,

Just wanna say Thank you for all that you do @Shannon

You are welcome, and thank you for the kindness.

[Shannon]

Any news as to when the Sleep Induction Aid V3 5.75g will be released?

SIA has to be updated soon, but exactly when I don't know.  I'm going to be aiming for before the end of April.

[Shannon]

No question,

Just wanna say Thank you for all that you do @Shannon

I second that!

Much appreciated.

[reki]

Can I use the Stress Relief (5G – Type B) to help me sleep at night? I'll run it every time I sleep

[reki]

Any news as to when the Sleep Induction Aid V3 5.75g will be released?

SIA has to be updated soon, but exactly when I don't know.  I'm going to be aiming for before the end of April.

Good to know. I'm thinking of running Stress Relief (5G – Type B) while waiting.

[Shannon]

Okay thanks @Shannon

And if it does not work, I suggest you wait until 6G comes out to try again - if you want to keep trying.

thanks @Shannon 
Tbh knowing that MLS has more FRM than even OF v2 and knowing that MLS would give me more "tangible" results to notice, which is what I lack from some previous subs (such as OF); im very much tempted to jump onto MLS asap and start again from 13/15 volume and bring it down each cycle. 

I feel this way I will notice if the sub is working because of the changes in my behaviour and feelings towards studying. Something that is always ON my mind yet the action and doing part is hampered a lot.

any thoughts mate?

Here's the problem.  Everything you have run, you have resisted.  You're apparently so good at it that I don't know how you're doing it.  Every time you run something, you spend months writing about how it doesn't work, and then you want to move on to the next program.  

MLS has over 120 different sub-goals.  That's a lot of input and a lot that could trigger fear; of course you're going to need more focus on FRM than OF in order to balance that.  That doesn't mean it's going to give you better or more tangible results.  Especially if you're somehow resisting OFv2!  

My thoughts are that you're wasting your time and money.  However you're managing to resist these programs at this point, it's bordering on a supernatural ability.  It does nobody any good for you to keep spending your money on these programs and just posting about how they don't work, when nothing I put in the script seems to make a difference and nothing I suggest you do does either.  It seems like unless I can change whatever is going on with 6G, subliminals just aren't going to work for you.  And if you end up being able to resist 6G too... well, congratulations, because that means you're never going to get results from any subliminal you use, and you're not going to get results from any other form of mind programming you try - except maybe self hypnosis.  But probably not even that.  The one thing nobody should be able to fully resist is OF v2 or later.

I hear you and im still optimistic that the subliminals can and will work. I just need to somehow get past the resistance.

I will continue with OFv2 because triggering more fear from the MLS 120 sub-goals is definately not what I want. So ill do as you said, stick with OF v2 and keep brining the volume down to 3/15 if need be and then just keep at it.

Could you kindly share what I should be noticing or looking out for with OF v2, to know that im finally executing? I am not getting any dreams (that I wake and remember but ill check my journal to see if I did earlier on). I am also usually tired in the day anyway and am more so now since ive travelled back to europe and sleep cycle is again completely ruined. So im finding it hard to know if I even am executing or was.

So any help for this please? thanks mate.

Dont give up on me, im trying here and trying all I can.

I didn't say that MLS would trigger more fear.  I said it has 120+ sub goals, which can potentially do that, and that gives more need for FRM than focusing solely on fear.  Apparently.  That's what came out of the models.

Once you have made it all the way through running it at 3/15, if you have still seen nothing, then I'm afraid that nothing I have made so far is going to make a difference for you.  That's why I said, try again at 6G.  But without knowing how you're resisting, I can't do anything about it.  And no matter what I do, there will always be a small subset of people who can and do find ways to defeat the programs.  They will never work for 100% of everyone.  

The signs that you're executing include more and more vivid dreams - if you remember them.  I don't usually remember dreams, even during execution.  If there is a lot of execution and resistance at the same time, then there will tend to be unusual levels of tiredness or exhaustion.  If you're experiencing freedom from fear, then you're executing.

If, on the other hand, you're not experiencing anything different, then only two things can be happening.

1. You think you're playing the subliminal, but there is no subliminal data getting to your ears.  Volume, damaged file, subliminal data removed by transcoding, broken speaker, broken speaker wire, etc. causes this.
2. You are stonewalling the program.  This is going to be either a refusal to execute, or some way in which you have subconsciously created some excuse to ignore the instructions, and for whatever reason, that excuse is accepted regardless of what the ASS/ART modules say.

At this point, if you're stonewalling or ignoring the script... I have no idea how.  And there's nothing I can do without knowing that.

It's not a matter of giving up.  It's a matter of not having anything left to try with my current level of understanding.  I'm one of, if not the, top world expert in this field, but that doesn't mean I know or have figured out everything.  It also doesn't mean I have the means to decipher the specific reasons and methods your particular case represents for how to defeat execution of a subliminal.  The best I can do is work until I have 97+% of people at least partially executing, and more than half fully executing.  I'm never going to achieve 100% in one lifetime, even if I have unlimited research funding and test facilities and volunteers.  

Without knowing how you are achieving the result, I can't know how to correct the problem.

[Shannon]

No question,

Just wanna say Thank you for all that you do @Shannon

I second that!

I third that

Much appreciated.