Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

You say that like it's our fault. And maybe it is, but that's why we're using this external help. Sometimes I feel you think of your DMSI users as hearthless men that only want to ***** matter what. In my personal case, I developed a psychological diagnosed  extreme fear to rejection after a suicide attempt almost 20 years ago after a break up. So yeah, I'm scared as shit. But I have been reading precisely about this wonderful FRM of yours for almost a year, and that's why I tried to use this external help you are providing. If women approached me, I can overcame more easily this fear to rejection. So please, before you give up about this, please think for at least some of its users, it's not a "prize" but something almost terapeutical that can improve our life in ways you cannot think.
BTW, before someone mention it, I have ran EPRHA and AM6 twice before this (with not so much success)

I made a statement of fact.  You guys do not see the results of the script as it is designed to work because you refuse to execute it, and you refuse to execute it because you are too afraid to do so.  That's not placing blame or casting judgement, so relax.  Overcoming fear is such a complex and difficult problem to overcome that it's apparently been given up on by one of our competitors who was trying to also go down that path.  They decided to focus in a different direction.  It's been over a year and even 4.8 is clearly not finished, and 4.9 is so complex that even after months of contemplating what to do next and finally coming up with something to try, I find myself facing a situation where I have no idea how to implement it, and the only thing I can turn to for help - my predictive models - is almost certainly going to be pretty much unusable until around February, if things keep going the way they are going.

I'm not blaming or attacking or anything like that.  You are not as frustrated as I am with this situation, I can assure you.  But it's just a challenge to solve, not personal.  I just find myself right now in a position, as I predicted, of being unable to get anything done.  I'm not giving up on it.  I know this interference will pass.  It should be finished in February or March.  But during pretty much all of January, it is likely going to be so bad that I may not be able to work.

Here's an example.  I spent months working on MHS v2 5.75G, and I tried my damnedest to get it finished before this started so I could have something to release.  Normally it is a matter of figuring out 3 variables to be ready to publish: ASRB, loops per day and ASRB2.

In this case, I discovered that there were two different sets of those variables necessary to calculate, and a job that should have taken me a couple of hours on a bad day is now 1.5 weeks in, and I have 5 of the 6 variables, but no matter what I do, I cannot get a straight answer from the models anymore, because of this cycle I am dealing with.  It won't peak until the 11th of January, and then it will be fading out faster than it faded in, but not fast enough that I'll likely be able to do much until February or March.  All I need to know now is how many days off in the ASRB2 cycle.  Four days trying to find the answer.  There is nothing but random static coming from the models right now.

I was wrong about something I predicted concerning this cycle.  I expected all of December to be a shitshow.  But it was better than I expected, in every direction except being able to work.  So maybe the fadeout will be faster than I think.  And I will keep trying, but right now it's looking like there's nothing I can do at all.  Everything requires the models: figuring out the parts of the script to turn on and off, wording the script, finding ASRB, loops per day, ASRB2 days on, ASRB2 days off...  I'm dead in the water right now because of this cycle.  If I had hair, I'd pull it out.

And there is absolutely nothing I can do about it, except wait.

But I'm not giving up on DMSI.  Or FRM.  I just need a way to move forward.

It sounds like i can not do anything against the destiny, the planets or whatever you think is affecting you, and it seems that this theory goes against the theory of you get what you think, you can change what you think with the subliminals and then you can get what you want because you have changed how you think thanks to the subliminals. 

Assuming this, for really knowing why an audio is not helping someone we would have to get information from our birth time and day to see if we have a good time or we will have a bad in which the most probable thing is that no matter what we do, we will fail.

There are degrees of freedom which you can influence, and degrees of restraint which you cannot.  You can liken it to being in a hallway.  You can walk anywhere you like in the hallway, and you can go through doors you can open, but you cannot go through walls.  If the hallway comes to a time locked door, you must wait for it to open.

The idea that our thoughts and beliefs define everything is true, but to an extent.  There are things which are bigger than we are, which we either cannot influence, or which we cannot influence as individuals.

It just happens to be very dramatic and obvious when it happens to me because of certain things that I have that are thankfully very rare.  

You can change what you believe with subliminals, and thereby change what you can create with them.  But to think that you alone have the power to change the grander aspects of the way the universe works is to misunderstand how the system as a whole works.  To change the larger, you must stop focusing into the smaller.  There is only one thing in the entire universe, multiverse, omniverse, but it expresses itself in many different ways and at many different scales.  You at this scale can influence things at like scales and smaller.  But your individual influence is progressively less and less as the scale becomes larger and larger.  For example, try to use creative visualization to put out the Sun and see how well that goes for you.  

Right now, I am being affected in the way that I am, and that is above my pay grade to influence.  It is disruptive to my work.  That is what it is.  I will have to wait for this to pass, just as I had to wait for the previous cycle to pass.  That also "is what it is".  

Failure comes from quitting.  As long as you are still trying, there cannot be failure.  But it is folly to bang your head against a time locked door and get angry that it won't open, if you have no other way to open it than to wait.  So we will wait.

How can you be completly sure that that is affecting you because you believe that it is instead because there is no other way? For example, maybe there is another person that born in the same day and in the same hour, minute and second, even in the same city, town or why not in the same hospital. We are not only defined by the moment and place we are born and how the planets where in that moment, we are also defined by our genes and by our enviroment and by our temper, character or education...So if your theory were completely true this theory could be proved, knowing the exact moment of birth, you could predict the future or you could tell the past of one person, at least some special and important moments because how the planet were aligned at that moment, and i don´t think that will be the same with all the persons born in the same exact moment all over the world (or city or town...don´t know really well if the place is also important or just the moment...)

I have spent since I was 18 observing how these things correlate to what they are supposed to do.  I am 46.  That's a a lot of time looking for the correlation.

The correlation is exact.  It fades in at the exact time it is supposed to, becomes noticeable, hits peak, fades out and becomes un-noticeable at the exact time it is supposed to.  It also follows the complex motion that is apparent motion given the geocentric point of view.  

I have spent a lot of time observing this, in detail, and tracking it.  I have even made major predictions using this and they were spot on.  For example, I predicted - after observing a previous incarnation of the cycle that affected me peaking a couple years ago - that:

A) My relationship with my girlfriend at the time would end, and a month later,
B) my mother would die, and then a couple months later
C) I would take an uncharacteristically long road trip.

These predictions were made YEARS in advance of what was predicted, and the predictions were made to verify the effect was happening along the correlation, and not for some other reason.

What happened?  My girlfriend laughed at me for believing this would happen, and when the time came, she did not follow my advice on how to make sure our relationship would not fail.  I did what I could, but our relationship ended because she cheated on me within the two week period I specified for when it would end.

My mother died, within the two week period I specified, after taking out a 30 year loan because she didn't believe my prediction.

I took a VERY uncharacteristic long range trip from Florida to Michigan to Arkansas to Texas to Utah to California to Oregon to Washington State and then back to Florida.  The trip started on the very day the influence started, peaked on the day I arrived at my goal destination (visiting my sister) and ended on the very day I arrived back home.  That sort of trip has never happened again, before or since.

Remember, this was predicted using the correlation, to prove it was the correlation I thought it was, YEARS in advance.

Now as to what happens to others born on the same day and the same time, there are some extremely sensitive variables in play that require the same day, time and place to be the same exact outcome.   But for all who have similar correlations to what I have they will experience similar effects, as far as those correlations synchronize.

For example, I originally discovered this cycle while looking at what this suggested for the United States of America.  It just so happens that this current cycle affects both me, and the country I live in, at the same time, because of a certain similarity present.  Both are experiencing severe disruption.  In my case, the fade in and fade out require a couple months, but because of the specifics, this has been fading in for the United States for 4-5 years now, and we are in the peak of it right now.  

This is a complex situation.  I guessed that this would produce a lot of disruption for the United States, and that during 2019 something would happen that would force a significant change in the United States government.  The period of maximum change is 2019, 2020 and 2021.  The changes I see being likely are to the government and the US monetary supply, because of the hidden "powers that be" having to pay the piper, and because they are not happy with how things are.

I also saw what could have been interpreted as major rioting, fighting between factions or even a civil war.  I hope we don't have a civil war, and I hope our monetary supply doesn't have a problem, but it looks like a significant possibility.

The challenge is in understanding what all the indicators mean before it happens.  They were there beforehand, and they will be there after the fact, but what exactly they mean and how they will be expressed is challenging to figure out.  But as you can see, in the last 5 years, there has been a lot of change in the United States and how the government operates and what is going on is becoming less and less stable.  It is reaching a peak and there is insanity in every direction, which I believe will result in something happening that forces a major change to the government in some way - how it works, laws, or maybe even the structure of or type of the government itself.

This is actually one of three cycles that are all dancing together right now affecting the United States (and me, amusingly).  They will be peaking in 2019 through 2021, and those three years will see great change, turmoil and challenge for the United States.  They will not be so difficult for me, but instead should be alternatively moderately difficult and wildly positive.  After 2021, their influences will fade out over a period of about 5 years.

I've been watching this correlation for seven years now, since I discovered this.  Its effects have been spot on for what they should be, and what their intensity is for when they happen.

So I'm not imagining this.  The real issue is that most people either don't know what to look for, don't know how to look or refuse to pay attention.  These correlations and how to spot them and use them has been known for literally thousands of years.  Nowadays, though, it's largely ignored because people don't want to see it.

If you wish to discuss this further, please post in the astrology thread in the off topic part of the forum.  We're skating on the edge of the rules.

[Yous]

Is not that im trying to talk about this veiledly, i really believe what im saying (i just believe that there are some general characteristics about the zodiac signal that may have some true, but mayorly i think that everyone we have characteristics of the different zodiacs, and the energy of the planets have some influence but in all of us and we can not predict really anything beyond our faith on it) . BTW, your girlfriend or the trip i could think that you could have influenced in that because you believe in it, although i don´t think you influenced in your mothers death. That really surprises me, not the other two.

For ending the topic, it was quite interesting to read even though i think we will continue thinking as we do, i have curiosity, i invest in futures, and i think the global economy will fall, im short in futures, do you think the economy will go down in 2020? Im short and i will be, just would be good to hear that you agree hahaha.

Happy xmas and new year.

[Shannon]

Is not that im trying to talk about this veiledly, i really believe what im saying (i just believe that there are some general characteristics about the zodiac signal that may have some true, but mayorly i think that everyone we have characteristics of the different zodiacs, and the energy of the planets have some influence but in all of us and we can not predict really anything beyond our faith on it) . BTW, your girlfriend or the trip i could think that you could have influenced in that because you believe in it, although i don´t think you influenced in your mothers death. That really surprises me, not the other two.

For ending the topic, it was quite interesting to read even though i think we will continue thinking as we do, i have curiosity, i invest in futures, and i think the global economy will fall, im short in futures, do you think the economy will go down in 2020? Im short and i will be, just would be good to hear that you agree hahaha.

Happy xmas and new year.

You have now crossed over into breaking rule 4, which is what I was trying to avoid by having you continue the discussion in the astrology thread.

My girlfriend at that time and I broke up in spite of me doing everything possible to prevent that, and I never told her when it was supposed to happen - only what to do and not do to prevent it.  She ignored my advice because "That stuff doesn't work.", and the breakup happened exactly on time and as predicted in spite of my best efforts.  I kept her from knowing when I predicted this to happen so I couldn't create a self fulfilling prophecy.  

The trip couldn't have been influenced because I never had the money to do it before or since.  That just magically happened right at the right time.  Exactly when I said it would, even though I didn't know how that trip was going to be possible.  I thought my interpretation was wrong until it happened.

I don't know what the economy will do, or which economy you are referring to.  I know that in 2020 things will start off challenging for me and get much better by the end of the year.  I know some things I can't talk about because that would be breaking our rules concerning politics.  I know 2021 will likely see something significant change with US currency (the dollar), but I don't clearly see what.  There are a lot of things to consider and understand when you are making predictions through that system, and it's generally more work than I care to do.  That it works is no longer a question for me.  That there are certain things that are beyond our ability to do anything about is also no longer a question for me.  I will continue looking for ways around these limitations, but so far nothing I have tried has worked with regard to the influence of certain specific cycles.  That is what it is.  Believe it or not, it does not change what is in this case.

I will tell you this.  Several years ago, I was offered a job at a bank.  I asked the man what skill I have that could possibly be of use to a bank, and he replied that he had been told that I am very good with the topic we are discussing, and make predictions with it occasionally that pan out.  Apparently, they don't want it known, but there is a branch of this topic that banks use to know what the markets will be doing in advance so they can profit from that knowledge.  I would have had to learn that branch of the topic at hand, not terribly difficult, but also not what I wanted to do.  I had to decline.  Maybe at some point in the future, I will go find him and take him up on his offer, if it still stands.

Banks don't use predictive systems that lose them money.  Consider that the predictive system they use is the same one I use, just with different associations and interpretations associated with each cycle.  From what I am told, all the biggest banks employ people to make predictions using this system, and they keep that fact a secret.  They also bet billions of dollars a year on the market predictions they make this way, and win a lot more than they lose.  Like clockwork.  Every year.

Think on that for a bit.

[Yous]

Is not that im trying to talk about this veiledly, i really believe what im saying (i just believe that there are some general characteristics about the zodiac signal that may have some true, but mayorly i think that everyone we have characteristics of the different zodiacs, and the energy of the planets have some influence but in all of us and we can not predict really anything beyond our faith on it) . BTW, your girlfriend or the trip i could think that you could have influenced in that because you believe in it, although i don´t think you influenced in your mothers death. That really surprises me, not the other two.

For ending the topic, it was quite interesting to read even though i think we will continue thinking as we do, i have curiosity, i invest in futures, and i think the global economy will fall, im short in futures, do you think the economy will go down in 2020? Im short and i will be, just would be good to hear that you agree hahaha.

Happy xmas and new year.

You have now crossed over into breaking rule 4, which is what I was trying to avoid by having you continue the discussion in the astrology thread.

My girlfriend at that time and I broke up in spite of me doing everything possible to prevent that, and I never told her when it was supposed to happen - only what to do and not do to prevent it.  She ignored my advice because "That stuff doesn't work.", and the breakup happened exactly on time and as predicted in spite of my best efforts.  I kept her from knowing when I predicted this to happen so I couldn't create a self fulfilling prophecy.  

The trip couldn't have been influenced because I never had the money to do it before or since.  That just magically happened right at the right time.  Exactly when I said it would, even though I didn't know how that trip was going to be possible.  I thought my interpretation was wrong until it happened.

I don't know what the economy will do, or which economy you are referring to.  I know that in 2020 things will start off challenging for me and get much better by the end of the year.  I know some things I can't talk about because that would be breaking our rules concerning politics.  I know 2021 will likely see something significant change with US currency (the dollar), but I don't clearly see what.  There are a lot of things to consider and understand when you are making predictions through that system, and it's generally more work than I care to do.  That it works is no longer a question for me.  That there are certain things that are beyond our ability to do anything about is also no longer a question for me.  I will continue looking for ways around these limitations, but so far nothing I have tried has worked with regard to the influence of certain specific cycles.  That is what it is.  Believe it or not, it does not change what is in this case.

I will tell you this.  Several years ago, I was offered a job at a bank.  I asked the man what skill I have that could possibly be of use to a bank, and he replied that he had been told that I am very good with the topic we are discussing, and make predictions with it occasionally that pan out.  Apparently, they don't want it known, but there is a branch of this topic that banks use to know what the markets will be doing in advance so they can profit from that knowledge.  I would have had to learn that branch of the topic at hand, not terribly difficult, but also not what I wanted to do.  I had to decline.  Maybe at some point in the future, I will go find him and take him up on his offer, if it still stands.

Banks don't use predictive systems that lose them money.  Consider that the predictive system they use is the same one I use, just with different associations and interpretations associated with each cycle.  From what I am told, all the biggest banks employ people to make predictions using this system, and they keep that fact a secret.  They also bet billions of dollars a year on the market predictions they make this way, and win a lot more than they lose.  Like clockwork.  Every year.

Think on that for a bit.

If I would think about it I would think that having that kind of prediction model related to economy would be much better than bamm lol

[Shannon]

Maybe. It depends on who and what you know. Things aren't always the way you would logically expect them to be.

[Yous]

Maybe.  It depends on who and what you know.  Things aren't always the way you would logically expect them to be.

I guess it would be needed a lot of money to make good profits with this models and could diversify, and with a little advantage in the market, just for example 52% of win rate they can make a lot of money.

[Paul1131]

Shannon, do you have any suggestions on where to start looking if one wanted to start learning about this stuff?

[Shannon]

Shannon, do you have any suggestions on where to start looking if one wanted to start learning about this stuff?

You would want the handbook by Sakoian & Acker.  Now let's get off this topic in this section of the forum, guys.

[Yous]

I can not find the exact place where an user proposed to do a subliminal in which all the people that hear it help the others to achieve money or whatever. Someone remember where? I think someone said it wasn´t really useful, but reading this: http://www.subliminal-shop.com/faqs/exo-subliminal/ made me think that could be possible...what do you think?

[Hatman]

I can not find the exact place where an user proposed to do a subliminal in which all the people that hear it help the others to achieve money or whatever.  Someone remember where? I think someone said it wasn´t really useful, but reading this: http://www.subliminal-shop.com/faqs/exo-subliminal/ made me think that could be possible...what do you think?

I can't remember where that post was, but I remember the conclusion was that such a subliminal would not be useful.

Imagine that there's 1000 individual UMS listeners, including yourself. Each listener spends 5% of their energy manifesting wealth for the other 999 people. Divide the 5% by 999 and that is the % of energy that each individual would receive from you. In return, you would receive the exact same amount of energy, ~5%.

So with such a subliminal you would spend 5% of your energy manifesting for other people, and in return receive a total of 5% from everyone else. That is assuming the process is 100% efficient.

It works when there are 1000 people spending energy on 1 goal that is the same.
It doesn't work when there are 1000 people spending energy on 1000 different goals. At that point, you might as well keep that energy to yourself.

[DMSIuser78]

@Shannon Do you think MHS 5.75G is able to heal Asperger's?

[Shannon]

@Shannon Do you think MHS 5.75G is able to heal Asperger's?

That question is answered in the FAQ in the product description.

[DMSIuser78]

@Shannon Do you think MHS 5.75G is able to heal Asperger's?

That question is answered in the FAQ in the product description.

Ok.

How long is a loop by the way? Is it 45 minutes?

[Raz]

How long is a loop by the way? Is it 45 minutes?

Because of an ASRB1 of 30:15, it's most likely 90 minutes per loop.