Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

Thanks Catman, I will send you a PM soon ill need some advice if you dont mind.
Of course ill talk to a doctor, but they're never care about alternative medicines or lifestyle whatsoever

Shannon, 2 questions please.
1. Have you had anyone use your subliminals that has Schizophrenia? If yes what was their experience, is it safe?
2. Would LTU be a good choice for said person?
thanks Shannon

In response to Q1:

We specifically state in our terms of use that if you have a mental or emotional disorder that requires professional attention, or for which you are (or should be) taking medication, not to use our subliminals.

Not that everyone pays attention or follows that, but it is uncertain how it would affect such people to use a subliminal.  

I don't remember anyone specifically reporting that someone who was diagnosed with schizophrenia used any of my subliminals.  I don't know if it is safe, and that is why I specifically say that you shouldn't do it.  

In response to Q2: I am not a doctor or a psychologist or psychiatrist.  I cannot give medical or psychological advice like that.

Hi Shannon. Perhaps you don't recall my posts about this issue. I can add some perspective here. My brother has Schizophrenia. I've spoken about it before here, as well as his use of subs. He is followed by a doctor, medication etc.

That said, as I've mentioned before, OF 5.75G is the first sub to finally show real progress with his paranoia, that has derailed more things than I can count. E2, E3, OF4G, OF5G, ARA, all of them did not help beyond at times stopping an attack or lessening it. Even then, that was pretty rare. When OF 5.75G debuted, I hesitated getting it for him for awhile, remembering how hard we tried with the other subs with getting the loops in and just huge hours of listening daily with the earlier versions. But, I thought the money to me is nothing...having a chance to rid my brother of this horrible paranoia is worth it! At present, OF has given him over a month of zero paranoia. Which has been unheard of, since the attacks began over 15 years ago when I took him out. They've happened ever since...for 15 years. Awful, wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Hopefully now, this will hold and he will be rid of them for good. I plan to keep him going on the 8 month run. Excellent response to this one, at last. I told him I'm jealous of his results with a sub, haha! Maybe I'll join him in the Winner's Circle with the next version of DMSI . I can say this OF is a step forward, that's for sure. Both for myself, and my brother. So that's a good sign of what's to come for me!

Anyway, just wanted you to know. All the best. Looking forward to DMSI down the road, when it's ready. Pretty hard to use such a program effectively right now anyway, let's face it. I mean, it's been since February that I've been in an environment with a female I know I'm attracted to that DMSI could've worked with. If anything, it can be used to FRM to prepare for the future, as here there's talk of another lockdown because people are being idiots so... so that alone may be my reason for switching when the time comes, we'll see. For now, OF is doing good for me and my brother!

The key is to make sure that you have proper medical advice and supervision.  These programs are not designed or intended to treat, cure or diagnose anything a medical doctor pr psychological professional would normally be called in for dealing with.  I say this to protect you and me.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon,I just posted in MY journal... 2 1/2 months into Overcoming Fears and man oh man... did I experience a break thru, today. talk about being floored,in the positive!!
I posted it in my journal. thank you Man for helping us ,so we could take responsiblity and help ourselve;s,Me included!!

[furcelli]

I recently purchased LTU6 and am in the process of running Stage 1. I was wondering if someone could clarify about the program removing toxins from the body. 

I have been taking some nootropics, aka "smart drugs" prior to starting LTU. I don't really consider them toxins, but I notice you said that caffeine and nicotine, which many people also regularly use for brain enhancement will be detoxed. That leads me to believe any exogenous chemical whether it be actual medication or just supplements should be avoided.

So I am wondering if I should discontinue supplements/drugs all together as I proceed with the program for the best results. Of course, I have permission from my doctor to wean off the prescription drugs I have been taking.

The detox module relies on the subconscious and the body to define what a toxin is.  If it is something your subconscious defines as a toxin, it will be affected; likewise, if it is something that your body works to remove from your system via it's natural detoxification organs (liver, mainly) then it's likely going to be flushed out.

Beyond that, I can't tell you how nootropics will be affected.  I do know that it affects caffeine, nicotine, alcohol and a number of other things.  Nicotine is literally a toxin created by a plant to prevent bugs from eating it, and is (was?) used by farmers as an insecticide.  That's a pretty clear sign it's a toxin, as is how your body reacts when you try to start smoking.  It takes effort across the board to get yourself addicted.  

Nicotine isn't a "brain enhancer", by the way.  From what I have come to understand, its effects are almost entirely limited to countering its own withdrawal symptoms; in other words, it slowly lowers you during withdrawal, and another dose brings you back to where you were before you started smoking in the first place.  But because you were lowered so slowly, you don't notice that; only the rapid return to a better place.  Which is where you are all the time, before you start smoking.

Alcohol is also a poison, which is why you can kill yourself in a single day by drinking too much of it.  It's why your body will prioritize removal of it over even the survival of your most protected organ, the brain, by using up all the moisture necessary in your body to metabolize it.  When you drink so much that it causes your brain to dehydrate, you get what is known as a "hangover".  In a life threatening situation, your body will sacrifice almost anything else in your body to keep your brain safe and alive, but it will even prioritize the removal of alcohol above this.  That's a poison.

Caffeine can cause addiction and it can be overdosed on, and in a state of overdose it can cause poisoning symptoms.  

Basically, again, is it something that either your body or your subconscious considers a toxin?  And I can't tell you specifically what the complete list of substances that includes is.

Thanks for your response, Sharon. I already don't use the drugs you mentioned like alcohol, nicotine, or caffeine and I will try to gradually cut out the nootropics I do take and test the difference between running LTU with and without them.

[Determined]

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[KingDavid93]

Hi @Shannon

Is there any break required between each stage of LTU?

Or after 30 days on it can I just directly switch over to the next stage?

[Jake2015]

That does give a little insight.  It would appear that the issue you have really boils down to something I already attempted to do in the last UMOP, but the technology and power levels were not sufficient.  This should be interesting in the next version then.

Thats great to hear! If you have any particular questions then do ask ofcourse. I did the hypnosis via skype with the hypnotherapist. He did "time line regression" and in all honesty it hasnt done much if anything. I found it extremely difficult to feel any negative of the 5 negative emotions (fear, guilt, hate, anger, sadness) from my past. I dont seem to be the kind of person who can feel emotions of the past, or negative emotions. I can ofcourse feel emotions in the present but to be asked to remember a time I was sad or angry just doesnt work as I know I am safe now.

So yes that didnt offer me any success sadly. I will use a hypnosis mp3 for procrastination in the hope that the positive suggestions and the compounding of these do something for me until UMOP is released but im not really able to apply discipline to taking action on this daily as I have tried to during covid and with no success just give up.

So from this I can imagine that I have an issue with discipline, moods and also persisting when short term success or results are zero.

Hypnosis requires an extremely skilled practitioner to succeed with someone like you.  It doesn't surprise me that you did not achieve success with it.  I think your issue is fear, and the deep need for control to maintain "security" in the face of that fear, which prevents the necessary parts of you from cooperating with hypnosis.  I'd be surprised if your use of a hypnosis recording did anything either.

You're right so far no hypnosis has really ever worked for me whether it be for procrastination or any other issues and ive tried to find skilled hypnotherapists but clearly they may not have been the best. If you know of any that are the best and work via zoom/skype then please let me know.

The fear that I have I still have no idea where it stems from, since I was I believe very different as a child.  Its as if around puberty or just before that i seemed to have changed behaviour. Consciously nothing at all comes to mind as to why. I however before this wouldnt procrastinate perhaps (maybe I did but not to this degree) however as ive gotten older clearly the avoidance levels have increased for sure.

So yes please do add on more tech, boost the power further up, and do whatever it is you do to make UMOP the sub the one to break me free.

Fingerscrossed!

Do you feel also that if UMOP does work on me, that then the other subs here will?


And procrastination is just 1 of my many issues I want to clear, so will there be a sub eventually that can deal with root issues, irrespective of what they are so that then there is a new clear ground on which the other subs can build positive reinforced buildings upon? 

thanks

The practitioners of any field who are the best are going to be the ones who you travel to, not the ones who work on video chat.  In fact I wouldn't even call myself a hypnotist (despite having been certified, because I don't use and practice it), but I would never try to do a hypnosis session remotely.  You want the best?  You look at who is considered the best by other hypnotists (who would know).  I know of two highly thought of and sought after hypnotists, one is retired, and one teaches hypnosis at a college in Canada.  Can't remember his name right now, I think his first name is Mike.  I was planning to fly to Canada and study with him years ago, but time and funds have never been sufficient at the same time to do that.  The retired one isweeweeSutphen.

Then there's Richard Bandler for NLP, and I'm sure a number of his students are really well thought of, but I haven't been in either direction for a long time, so I'm not up to speed anymore.

The best also is not cheap, and in fact you may not be able to even get them to do personal consultations anymore.

You may end up deciding that "going in through the window" is easier than "going in through the front door".  What I mean by that is, trying to go directly after procrastination may not be the best way to approach this.  You may want to do something like LTUv6, E4, OF 5.75G or something along those lines.  However, when I release UMOP v2, I will be very interested in seeing how it affects you.  

OF is considered 5.75.1G; LTU v6 is 5.75.2G; and everything from then on will be 5.75.3G or later.  This level of subliminal should be able to achieve its goals, even with you, if you use it properly.  

And procrastination is just 1 of my many issues I want to clear, so will there be a sub eventually that can deal with root issues, irrespective of what they are so that then there is a new clear ground on which the other subs can build positive reinforced buildings upon? 

That would be OF 5.75G. Or LTUv6.  Maybe E4.  I have been really impressed with both OF 5.75G and LTUv6 so far.

Lol ive literally been procrastinating on replying to this reply @Shannon and now only after finally pushing out of my funk do I feel in the zone to reply :/

Thanks for the info regarding hypnotherapists. I couldnt find isweewee sutphen however I have tried sleep cds by Dick Sutphen in the past and they were absolutely hopeless.

Richard bandler I came across early 2000s, only student of his I know of is a tv hypnotist and though his book was a good read in which a story he wrote with NLP had a good effect on my mind, I havent used his cds much eacher and that was for weightloss. Pretty much everyone in hypnosis says they use NLP these days and it all goes back to RBandler.

Ok so I rather "go in through the window" because 1) by using UMOP I will have a clear and direct correlation that the subs are working on me. I had tried E2 in the past and the other subs and was always left wondering if anything ever happened or if I was using them correctly etc. The doubt inside grew or perhaps it was the perfectionist inside me that did this but either way I hope that with UMOP i can see a direct link in sub usage and proven definable results as such. and 2) so that you can get results from my usage of UMOP2 that helps me (and others). I just really hope that you can mine more tech from beast or whatever it is you do to make UMOP2 alot more powerful than UMOP1, or the other subs I ever used such as E2 etc.

So will UMOP2 be 5.75.3G or later as you said above and thus hopefully effective on me? Or if not can you get it to 5.75.3G or later before releasing it to me?

I apologise im unsure how to reply to your reply paragraph by paragraph as such so hope its easier to see im replying to it all here but in order of how you wrote to me.

Ok im glad you OF 5.75G. Or LTUv6.  Maybe E4. will be effective for root issues and perhaps work on me but due to my failed runs in the past I rather wait till as you said we get to 3G tech to be sure its going to work on me - how far away are we from that or can you make UMOP into that 3G or above please as soon as?

thanks again

[Jake2015]

Thats great to hear! If you have any particular questions then do ask ofcourse. I did the hypnosis via skype with the hypnotherapist. He did "time line regression" and in all honesty it hasnt done much if anything. I found it extremely difficult to feel any negative of the 5 negative emotions (fear, guilt, hate, anger, sadness) from my past. I dont seem to be the kind of person who can feel emotions of the past, or negative emotions. I can ofcourse feel emotions in the present but to be asked to remember a time I was sad or angry just doesnt work as I know I am safe now.

So yes that didnt offer me any success sadly. I will use a hypnosis mp3 for procrastination in the hope that the positive suggestions and the compounding of these do something for me until UMOP is released but im not really able to apply discipline to taking action on this daily as I have tried to during covid and with no success just give up.

So from this I can imagine that I have an issue with discipline, moods and also persisting when short term success or results are zero.

Hypnosis requires an extremely skilled practitioner to succeed with someone like you.  It doesn't surprise me that you did not achieve success with it.  I think your issue is fear, and the deep need for control to maintain "security" in the face of that fear, which prevents the necessary parts of you from cooperating with hypnosis.  I'd be surprised if your use of a hypnosis recording did anything either.

You're right so far no hypnosis has really ever worked for me whether it be for procrastination or any other issues and ive tried to find skilled hypnotherapists but clearly they may not have been the best. If you know of any that are the best and work via zoom/skype then please let me know.

The fear that I have I still have no idea where it stems from, since I was I believe very different as a child.  Its as if around puberty or just before that i seemed to have changed behaviour. Consciously nothing at all comes to mind as to why. I however before this wouldnt procrastinate perhaps (maybe I did but not to this degree) however as ive gotten older clearly the avoidance levels have increased for sure.

So yes please do add on more tech, boost the power further up, and do whatever it is you do to make UMOP the sub the one to break me free.

Fingerscrossed!

Do you feel also that if UMOP does work on me, that then the other subs here will?


And procrastination is just 1 of my many issues I want to clear, so will there be a sub eventually that can deal with root issues, irrespective of what they are so that then there is a new clear ground on which the other subs can build positive reinforced buildings upon? 

thanks

The practitioners of any field who are the best are going to be the ones who you travel to, not the ones who work on video chat.  In fact I wouldn't even call myself a hypnotist (despite having been certified, because I don't use and practice it), but I would never try to do a hypnosis session remotely.  You want the best?  You look at who is considered the best by other hypnotists (who would know).  I know of two highly thought of and sought after hypnotists, one is retired, and one teaches hypnosis at a college in Canada.  Can't remember his name right now, I think his first name is Mike.  I was planning to fly to Canada and study with him years ago, but time and funds have never been sufficient at the same time to do that.  The retired one isweeweeSutphen.

Then there's Richard Bandler for NLP, and I'm sure a number of his students are really well thought of, but I haven't been in either direction for a long time, so I'm not up to speed anymore.

The best also is not cheap, and in fact you may not be able to even get them to do personal consultations anymore.

You may end up deciding that "going in through the window" is easier than "going in through the front door".  What I mean by that is, trying to go directly after procrastination may not be the best way to approach this.  You may want to do something like LTUv6, E4, OF 5.75G or something along those lines.  However, when I release UMOP v2, I will be very interested in seeing how it affects you.  

OF is considered 5.75.1G; LTU v6 is 5.75.2G; and everything from then on will be 5.75.3G or later.  This level of subliminal should be able to achieve its goals, even with you, if you use it properly.  

And procrastination is just 1 of my many issues I want to clear, so will there be a sub eventually that can deal with root issues, irrespective of what they are so that then there is a new clear ground on which the other subs can build positive reinforced buildings upon? 

That would be OF 5.75G. Or LTUv6.  Maybe E4.  I have been really impressed with both OF 5.75G and LTUv6 so far.

E4 sounds like it may be good for you. Procrastination may not be the core issue but rather the symptom of a deeper issue like fear or something else. If you run E4 long enough it would definitely root out the issue

Thanks for adding to this @THolt and helping out.

E4 could take forever thats my fear, cos E2 never worked and then as I wrote just now in a reply to shannon it could also work in a way that I wont know if it was the sub or not. Plus Shannon said 3G tech and above would be almost certain to work on me and that just gives me more hope but then again we thought previous subs would work on me too so im still unsure what would work and when :/

[Shannon]

Thats great to hear! If you have any particular questions then do ask ofcourse. I did the hypnosis via skype with the hypnotherapist. He did "time line regression" and in all honesty it hasnt done much if anything. I found it extremely difficult to feel any negative of the 5 negative emotions (fear, guilt, hate, anger, sadness) from my past. I dont seem to be the kind of person who can feel emotions of the past, or negative emotions. I can ofcourse feel emotions in the present but to be asked to remember a time I was sad or angry just doesnt work as I know I am safe now.

So yes that didnt offer me any success sadly. I will use a hypnosis mp3 for procrastination in the hope that the positive suggestions and the compounding of these do something for me until UMOP is released but im not really able to apply discipline to taking action on this daily as I have tried to during covid and with no success just give up.

So from this I can imagine that I have an issue with discipline, moods and also persisting when short term success or results are zero.

Hypnosis requires an extremely skilled practitioner to succeed with someone like you.  It doesn't surprise me that you did not achieve success with it.  I think your issue is fear, and the deep need for control to maintain "security" in the face of that fear, which prevents the necessary parts of you from cooperating with hypnosis.  I'd be surprised if your use of a hypnosis recording did anything either.

You're right so far no hypnosis has really ever worked for me whether it be for procrastination or any other issues and ive tried to find skilled hypnotherapists but clearly they may not have been the best. If you know of any that are the best and work via zoom/skype then please let me know.

The fear that I have I still have no idea where it stems from, since I was I believe very different as a child.  Its as if around puberty or just before that i seemed to have changed behaviour. Consciously nothing at all comes to mind as to why. I however before this wouldnt procrastinate perhaps (maybe I did but not to this degree) however as ive gotten older clearly the avoidance levels have increased for sure.

So yes please do add on more tech, boost the power further up, and do whatever it is you do to make UMOP the sub the one to break me free.

Fingerscrossed!

Do you feel also that if UMOP does work on me, that then the other subs here will?


And procrastination is just 1 of my many issues I want to clear, so will there be a sub eventually that can deal with root issues, irrespective of what they are so that then there is a new clear ground on which the other subs can build positive reinforced buildings upon? 

thanks

The practitioners of any field who are the best are going to be the ones who you travel to, not the ones who work on video chat.  In fact I wouldn't even call myself a hypnotist (despite having been certified, because I don't use and practice it), but I would never try to do a hypnosis session remotely.  You want the best?  You look at who is considered the best by other hypnotists (who would know).  I know of two highly thought of and sought after hypnotists, one is retired, and one teaches hypnosis at a college in Canada.  Can't remember his name right now, I think his first name is Mike.  I was planning to fly to Canada and study with him years ago, but time and funds have never been sufficient at the same time to do that.  The retired one isweeweeSutphen.

Then there's Richard Bandler for NLP, and I'm sure a number of his students are really well thought of, but I haven't been in either direction for a long time, so I'm not up to speed anymore.

The best also is not cheap, and in fact you may not be able to even get them to do personal consultations anymore.

You may end up deciding that "going in through the window" is easier than "going in through the front door".  What I mean by that is, trying to go directly after procrastination may not be the best way to approach this.  You may want to do something like LTUv6, E4, OF 5.75G or something along those lines.  However, when I release UMOP v2, I will be very interested in seeing how it affects you.  

OF is considered 5.75.1G; LTU v6 is 5.75.2G; and everything from then on will be 5.75.3G or later.  This level of subliminal should be able to achieve its goals, even with you, if you use it properly.  

And procrastination is just 1 of my many issues I want to clear, so will there be a sub eventually that can deal with root issues, irrespective of what they are so that then there is a new clear ground on which the other subs can build positive reinforced buildings upon? 

That would be OF 5.75G. Or LTUv6.  Maybe E4.  I have been really impressed with both OF 5.75G and LTUv6 so far.

Lol ive literally been procrastinating on replying to this reply @Shannon and now only after finally pushing out of my funk do I feel in the zone to reply :/

Thanks for the info regarding hypnotherapists. I couldnt find isweewee sutphen however I have tried sleep cds byweeweeSutphen in the past and they were absolutely hopeless.

LOL  I never thought the replacement filters would be this funny.  I'll have to adjust them.  Or Ben.  One of us.

You are still missing the point.  NO practitioner is going to be able to give you their best unless you are working with them IN PERSON.  CDs will work for "most people", but they can't adjust to you, as a skilled hypnotherapist can and will IN PERSON.

Richard bandler I came across early 2000s, only student of his I know of is a tv hypnotist and though his book was a good read in which a story he wrote with NLP had a good effect on my mind, I havent used his cds much eacher and that was for weightloss. Pretty much everyone in hypnosis says they use NLP these days and it all goes back to RBandler.

And Bandler was the student of Milton Erikson, IIRC, who was a master hypnotist.  Again... the results will come with enough skill in an IN PERSON consultation.

Ok so I rather "go in through the window" because 1) by using UMOP I will have a clear and direct correlation that the subs are working on me. I had tried E2 in the past and the other subs and was always left wondering if anything ever happened or if I was using them correctly etc. The doubt inside grew or perhaps it was the perfectionist inside me that did this but either way I hope that with UMOP i can see a direct link in sub usage and proven definable results as such. and 2) so that you can get results from my usage of UMOP2 that helps me (and others). I just really hope that you can mine more tech from beast or whatever it is you do to make UMOP2 alot more powerful than UMOP1, or the other subs I ever used such as E2 etc.

UMOP is in LTUv6 and it's already showing that it's much more powerful than v1.  Not necessarily perfect, but that may be because it's competing with so many other goals.  The changes have already been made.  There's more changes coming, but you keep talking as if you expect that the changes still need to be made to make stuff I'm working on now more powerful and effective than it was when UMOP v1 was released.  There's already been huge progress.

So will UMOP2 be 5.75.3G or later as you said above and thus hopefully effective on me? Or if not can you get it to 5.75.3G or later before releasing it to me?

It will be 5.75.3 or later.  Probably later before I build it.  I've made some improvements during the development of DMSI 3.3.3.

I apologise im unsure how to reply to your reply paragraph by paragraph as such so hope its easier to see im replying to it all here but in order of how you wrote to me.

Simply highlight the paragraph you wish to respond to and select the "Insert a quote" button at the top on the far right.  

Ok im glad you OF 5.75G. Or LTUv6.  Maybe E4. will be effective for root issues and perhaps work on me but due to my failed runs in the past I rather wait till as you said we get to 3G tech to be sure its going to work on me - how far away are we from that or can you make UMOP into that 3G or above please as soon as?

thanks again

Well 3G tech came out in 2004 or 2005.  I think we're ready with that then.  ; But if you want to wait until 6G, then ask yourself this...

Are you just procrastinating?

[Shannon]

Hypnosis requires an extremely skilled practitioner to succeed with someone like you.  It doesn't surprise me that you did not achieve success with it.  I think your issue is fear, and the deep need for control to maintain "security" in the face of that fear, which prevents the necessary parts of you from cooperating with hypnosis.  I'd be surprised if your use of a hypnosis recording did anything either.

You're right so far no hypnosis has really ever worked for me whether it be for procrastination or any other issues and ive tried to find skilled hypnotherapists but clearly they may not have been the best. If you know of any that are the best and work via zoom/skype then please let me know.

The fear that I have I still have no idea where it stems from, since I was I believe very different as a child.  Its as if around puberty or just before that i seemed to have changed behaviour. Consciously nothing at all comes to mind as to why. I however before this wouldnt procrastinate perhaps (maybe I did but not to this degree) however as ive gotten older clearly the avoidance levels have increased for sure.

So yes please do add on more tech, boost the power further up, and do whatever it is you do to make UMOP the sub the one to break me free.

Fingerscrossed!

Do you feel also that if UMOP does work on me, that then the other subs here will?


And procrastination is just 1 of my many issues I want to clear, so will there be a sub eventually that can deal with root issues, irrespective of what they are so that then there is a new clear ground on which the other subs can build positive reinforced buildings upon? 

thanks

The practitioners of any field who are the best are going to be the ones who you travel to, not the ones who work on video chat.  In fact I wouldn't even call myself a hypnotist (despite having been certified, because I don't use and practice it), but I would never try to do a hypnosis session remotely.  You want the best?  You look at who is considered the best by other hypnotists (who would know).  I know of two highly thought of and sought after hypnotists, one is retired, and one teaches hypnosis at a college in Canada.  Can't remember his name right now, I think his first name is Mike.  I was planning to fly to Canada and study with him years ago, but time and funds have never been sufficient at the same time to do that.  The retired one isweeweeSutphen.

Then there's Richard Bandler for NLP, and I'm sure a number of his students are really well thought of, but I haven't been in either direction for a long time, so I'm not up to speed anymore.

The best also is not cheap, and in fact you may not be able to even get them to do personal consultations anymore.

You may end up deciding that "going in through the window" is easier than "going in through the front door".  What I mean by that is, trying to go directly after procrastination may not be the best way to approach this.  You may want to do something like LTUv6, E4, OF 5.75G or something along those lines.  However, when I release UMOP v2, I will be very interested in seeing how it affects you.  

OF is considered 5.75.1G; LTU v6 is 5.75.2G; and everything from then on will be 5.75.3G or later.  This level of subliminal should be able to achieve its goals, even with you, if you use it properly.  

And procrastination is just 1 of my many issues I want to clear, so will there be a sub eventually that can deal with root issues, irrespective of what they are so that then there is a new clear ground on which the other subs can build positive reinforced buildings upon? 

That would be OF 5.75G. Or LTUv6.  Maybe E4.  I have been really impressed with both OF 5.75G and LTUv6 so far.

E4 sounds like it may be good for you. Procrastination may not be the core issue but rather the symptom of a deeper issue like fear or something else. If you run E4 long enough it would definitely root out the issue

Thanks for adding to this @THolt and helping out.

E4 could take forever thats my fear, cos E2 never worked and then as I wrote just now in a reply to shannon it could also work in a way that I wont know if it was the sub or not. Plus Shannon said 3G tech and above would be almost certain to work on me and that just gives me more hope but then again we thought previous subs would work on me too so im still unsure what would work and when :/

Hmmm.  Seems you have some issues with fear.  Maybe OF 5.75G could help.

[KingDavid93]

Is there any break required between each stage of LTU?

Or after 30 days on it- I can just directly switch over to the next stage?

[Shannon]

Is there any break required between each stage of LTU?

Or after 30 days on it- I can just directly switch over to the next stage?

It is designed so that you finish the last ASRB2 cycle and then start the next stage.  So however many days off are used for that stage would be your time between stages.  2 days off, IIRC, for Stage 2 to Stage 3.

[ncbeareatingman]

I Love it, the More Shannon works on DMSI and the extractions of E4 and UMOP and I think one healing program(?) (that is not an extraction) then thee closer he is to UMSv2...I know I know nag nag nag...not really...Just think of Grand Funk Raildroad's "Im geting closer to my home' lyric's.... Ha!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_t59To7Snk

[KingDavid93]

Hi @Shannon

I noticed you mentioned in one of the journals about the potential benefits for running OF alongside LTU.

I think this may be useful for me as well- I say this because I don’t feel as “loose” as I did on pure OF-and because I had been able to go over a month without biting my nails, this habit returned back strong upon the switch from OF to LTU6 (like within a week all of my progress with the nail biting had gone away)

How would I know if this is the right path for me and how should I structure it?

[Benjamin]

LOL  I never thought the replacement filters would be this funny.  I'll have to adjust them.  Or Ben.  One of us.

I understand adjusting the filters, but why do you have to adjust me aswell? Do I need new filters?

goshdarn weewee fruitcake!