Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[lano1106]

Does that mean that there is no restriction using BWE along with a subliminal program?

Could someone go as far as using both simultaneously?

[ichigo]

Writers Editing & Creativity Pack (Brainwave Only) is Now Available!

This is a group of brainwave entrainment (BWE) programs designed to help writers access their creativity and to help make editing easier.  There is no subliminal content in any of these tracks.

Go get it at http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/w...-pack-bwe/

Thanks guys, have placed my order! 

Lano beat me to it, but I have the same question. I usually play LTU5 at ultrasonic on my iPhone during many of the hours in which I would write - would it be okay to play the binaurals through headphones and have the LTU5 ultrasonic playing through my iPhone simultaneously?

[UniversalMan]

Hi @Shannon , just a quick question...
I am currently finishing two 4G subliminals(one is type  B/C/Hybrid, the other is type B), according to you, how long I should wait before I can start UMS?

Thank you

@Shannon should I wait a few days before starting UMS or I can start it right away after completing the two subliminals I am listening right now? (just few day left)

[Hanpan]

I looked into BWE at some point in order to help me staying focused and alert but still relaxed at my job as a lawyer, but never really found anything that worked.

I know that you have a million subs in the queue, and that I personally ask about the release date for many of them often.

However, have you considered making a BWE product that people with academic office jobs can use?

Returning to building BWE is something I have thought about recently, given my persistent difficulty with the models of late.  It still takes about a day to build a BWE program, upload it, get it linked and write the description.  I can do it faster and more easily than subs, but I still have to build subs.

Have you tried Tranquilizer A for what you want?  If so, and it didn't fit your needs, what does it need changed?  

I can certainly make a BWE program for "focused and alert but relaxed", but finding the right combination of frequencies may take a while.

Thanks for you reply. IMO it would be great to have some BWE in the catalogue as well, and I really believe that you wouldn’t have to make that many different products.
 
A few thoughts on this:
 
1)   It is my understanding that the difference between a sub and BWE is that a sub reprograms you, while BWE keeps you in a certain state of mind (though it might make it easier for you to access this state after long term use). I don’t know if this is correct, but I was looking for something that I could have playing more or less all day while working to keep me in a peak state.  
2)   It was my understanding from a previous post that Tranq A would be too much if I run LTU5 and also plan to run Tranq B when available.
3)   I understood that Tranq A would relax me but maybe take some away some of my motivation, which I then concluded also meant some of my focus and alertness.
4)   What I have done in very busy periods was to use ARA for 20-30 mins max in my lunch break or on my way to work. This has seemed to work pretty good and I don’t think that it has interfered with LTU. 
 
If my assumptions below are correct (which they may not be), wouldn’t you agree that a BWE product would be more suitable for this situation than Tranq A, if I continue to run LTU?
 
Thanks a lot in advance. 
 

I will address each one separately.

1)   It is my understanding that the difference between a sub and BWE is that a sub reprograms you, while BWE keeps you in a certain state of mind (though it might make it easier for you to access this state after long term use). I don’t know if this is correct, but I was looking for something that I could have playing more or less all day while working to keep me in a peak state.  

A subliminal introduces new ideas, beliefs and instructions to your subconscious mind, and if it is used and made properly, and you don't resist it, it can change your subconscious beliefs, choices, actions, etc.  Brainwave entrainment triggers a specific state of awareness to dominate your brain.  It is possible to do "all day" with both.  However, that may have consequences, as you can train your brain to stay in a specific state if you are inducing it too much.  I believe that this is a big part of why we are seeing so much ADD/ADHD when it didn't exist pre-computers.  People spend a lot of time each day now using computers, cell phones, games, movies, etc. and this tends to train their brains to stay in the wrong state while they are awake.  Probably the best way to do this would be with a subliminal to avoid that, using it for a specific amount of time in the morning and letting it wear out during the day.

2)   It was my understanding from a previous post that Tranq A would be too much if I run LTU5 and also plan to run Tranq B when available.

Tranquilizer A is good for staying awake while inducing a calm, tranquil state, but not necessarily very good for motivation.  

3)   I understood that Tranq A would relax me but maybe take some away some of my motivation, which I then concluded also meant some of my focus and alertness.

Tranquilizer A is designed to help you stay focused and alert, but also to be very relaxed and tranquil.  If you are familiar with Zen meditation, that should help you understand.  When I was testing it while I was emotionally calm to begin with, I achieved an eyes-open state I can only describe as tranquil meditative bliss which showed me why the statues of the Buddha have that smile on them.  I understand now.  However, I haven't used it for a while because it tends to counteract the motivational effects of UMS.

4)   What I have done in very busy periods was to use ARA for 20-30 mins max in my lunch break or on my way to work. This has seemed to work pretty good and I don’t think that it has interfered with LTU.

 

You may want to try using Tranquilizer A like that as well, if you have it.  It took about 45 minutes of exposure to calm me down from frustrated or angry.  20 to 45 minutes of exposure may be good for allowing you the best of both worlds.

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer this.

If I use Tranq A in the morning, will that state last throughout the working day?

I've been very calm in my current job for a few months, so I haven't used ARA as described above. However, I'm still considering if I should move from LTU to ARA (using it fully as described) for a few weeks when I start my new job, just in order to get a smooth landing. If I stay on LTU, I'll definitely give Tranq A a try. However, I still believe that a BWE program as described above would be super helpful.

[Benjamin]

Hi @Shannon , just a quick question...
I am currently finishing two 4G subliminals(one is type  B/C/Hybrid, the other is type B), according to you, how long I should wait before I can start UMS?

Thank you

@Shannon should I wait a few days before starting UMS or I can start it right away after completing the two subliminals I am listening right now? (just few day left)

How long did you listen to them?

Usually around a week is a good break. You don't 'have' to, but it's good to have a bit of space to let it process before starting something different.

[UniversalMan]

Hi @Shannon , just a quick question...
I am currently finishing two 4G subliminals(one is type  B/C/Hybrid, the other is type B), according to you, how long I should wait before I can start UMS?

Thank you

@Shannon should I wait a few days before starting UMS or I can start it right away after completing the two subliminals I am listening right now? (just few day left)

How long did you listen to them?

Usually around a week is a good break. You don't 'have' to, but it's good to have a bit of space to let it process before starting something different.

It will soon be 32 days for the B type, the B/C/Hybrid will re run some other time.

Thank you Ben.
If I don't have to, than, the next day I will jump on the UMS train 

[AbundanceCH]

Shannon, could you make a BWE for visualizing? Whatever the best frequency would be to help us when we are visualizing what we want to manifest/watching mind movies.

[Shannon]

Does that mean that there is no restriction using BWE along with a subliminal program?

Could someone go as far as using both simultaneously?

Using both simultaneously will conflict.  The BWE is triggering the frequency following response and inducing a specific frequency, while the subliminal is using state optimization to produce the best possible state for achieving your goals.  BWE will override usually.  Don't use them simultaneously.  

If you use both, I suggest spacing them out in time as much as possible.

[Shannon]

Writers Editing & Creativity Pack (Brainwave Only) is Now Available!

This is a group of brainwave entrainment (BWE) programs designed to help writers access their creativity and to help make editing easier.  There is no subliminal content in any of these tracks.

Go get it at http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/w...-pack-bwe/

Thanks guys, have placed my order! 

Lano beat me to it, but I have the same question. I usually play LTU5 at ultrasonic on my iPhone during many of the hours in which I would write - would it be okay to play the binaurals through headphones and have the LTU5 ultrasonic playing through my iPhone simultaneously?

No.  I suggest you use LTU while you sleep and use this while you write, if you can use the creativity tracks at the same time you write.  Some people may find that it relaxes them too much.

[Shannon]

I looked into BWE at some point in order to help me staying focused and alert but still relaxed at my job as a lawyer, but never really found anything that worked.

I know that you have a million subs in the queue, and that I personally ask about the release date for many of them often.

However, have you considered making a BWE product that people with academic office jobs can use?

Returning to building BWE is something I have thought about recently, given my persistent difficulty with the models of late.  It still takes about a day to build a BWE program, upload it, get it linked and write the description.  I can do it faster and more easily than subs, but I still have to build subs.

Have you tried Tranquilizer A for what you want?  If so, and it didn't fit your needs, what does it need changed?  

I can certainly make a BWE program for "focused and alert but relaxed", but finding the right combination of frequencies may take a while.

Thanks for you reply. IMO it would be great to have some BWE in the catalogue as well, and I really believe that you wouldn’t have to make that many different products.
 
A few thoughts on this:
 
1)   It is my understanding that the difference between a sub and BWE is that a sub reprograms you, while BWE keeps you in a certain state of mind (though it might make it easier for you to access this state after long term use). I don’t know if this is correct, but I was looking for something that I could have playing more or less all day while working to keep me in a peak state.  
2)   It was my understanding from a previous post that Tranq A would be too much if I run LTU5 and also plan to run Tranq B when available.
3)   I understood that Tranq A would relax me but maybe take some away some of my motivation, which I then concluded also meant some of my focus and alertness.
4)   What I have done in very busy periods was to use ARA for 20-30 mins max in my lunch break or on my way to work. This has seemed to work pretty good and I don’t think that it has interfered with LTU. 
 
If my assumptions below are correct (which they may not be), wouldn’t you agree that a BWE product would be more suitable for this situation than Tranq A, if I continue to run LTU?
 
Thanks a lot in advance. 
 

I will address each one separately.

1)   It is my understanding that the difference between a sub and BWE is that a sub reprograms you, while BWE keeps you in a certain state of mind (though it might make it easier for you to access this state after long term use). I don’t know if this is correct, but I was looking for something that I could have playing more or less all day while working to keep me in a peak state.  

A subliminal introduces new ideas, beliefs and instructions to your subconscious mind, and if it is used and made properly, and you don't resist it, it can change your subconscious beliefs, choices, actions, etc.  Brainwave entrainment triggers a specific state of awareness to dominate your brain.  It is possible to do "all day" with both.  However, that may have consequences, as you can train your brain to stay in a specific state if you are inducing it too much.  I believe that this is a big part of why we are seeing so much ADD/ADHD when it didn't exist pre-computers.  People spend a lot of time each day now using computers, cell phones, games, movies, etc. and this tends to train their brains to stay in the wrong state while they are awake.  Probably the best way to do this would be with a subliminal to avoid that, using it for a specific amount of time in the morning and letting it wear out during the day.

2)   It was my understanding from a previous post that Tranq A would be too much if I run LTU5 and also plan to run Tranq B when available.

Tranquilizer A is good for staying awake while inducing a calm, tranquil state, but not necessarily very good for motivation.  

3)   I understood that Tranq A would relax me but maybe take some away some of my motivation, which I then concluded also meant some of my focus and alertness.

Tranquilizer A is designed to help you stay focused and alert, but also to be very relaxed and tranquil.  If you are familiar with Zen meditation, that should help you understand.  When I was testing it while I was emotionally calm to begin with, I achieved an eyes-open state I can only describe as tranquil meditative bliss which showed me why the statues of the Buddha have that smile on them.  I understand now.  However, I haven't used it for a while because it tends to counteract the motivational effects of UMS.

4)   What I have done in very busy periods was to use ARA for 20-30 mins max in my lunch break or on my way to work. This has seemed to work pretty good and I don’t think that it has interfered with LTU.

 

You may want to try using Tranquilizer A like that as well, if you have it.  It took about 45 minutes of exposure to calm me down from frustrated or angry.  20 to 45 minutes of exposure may be good for allowing you the best of both worlds.

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer this.

If I use Tranq A in the morning, will that state last throughout the working day?

 

I think a loop is usually good for 3-4 hours afterwards in most cases.

I've been very calm in my current job for a few months, so I haven't used ARA as described above. However, I'm still considering if I should move from LTU to ARA (using it fully as described) for a few weeks when I start my new job, just in order to get a smooth landing. If I stay on LTU, I'll definitely give Tranq A a try. However, I still believe that a BWE program as described above would be super helpful.

[Shannon]

Shannon, could you make a BWE for visualizing? Whatever the best frequency would be to help us when we are visualizing what we want to manifest/watching mind movies.

I can, yes.  But that would mean one of two options:

1. I can do it in a day, but that means a simple BWE program that would relatively likely have you unconscious or close to it, or
2. I build a BWE that uses multiple simultaneous major BW states, but requires weeks or months to figure out, build and refine before release.

If you think about it, the Core States and the advanced meditations BWE programs both have at least one track that can do this.  The Core States Theta.  The more advanced one you would want states between 4.5 and 6.5 Hz.  So there's no need to build a new one.  And I don't have time to make the advanced multi-state BWE for this.

[Hanpan]

Writers Editing & Creativity Pack (Brainwave Only) is Now Available!

This is a group of brainwave entrainment (BWE) programs designed to help writers access their creativity and to help make editing easier.  There is no subliminal content in any of these tracks.

Go get it at http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/w...-pack-bwe/

Thanks guys, have placed my order! 

Lano beat me to it, but I have the same question. I usually play LTU5 at ultrasonic on my iPhone during many of the hours in which I would write - would it be okay to play the binaurals through headphones and have the LTU5 ultrasonic playing through my iPhone simultaneously?

No.  I suggest you use LTU while you sleep and use this while you write, if you can use the creativity tracks at the same time you write.  Some people may find that it relaxes them too much.

Could the relaxation part of this program be worth given a shot for an office job taking the low price into account, or will it be too difficult to maintain focus?

[ichigo]

Writers Editing & Creativity Pack (Brainwave Only) is Now Available!

This is a group of brainwave entrainment (BWE) programs designed to help writers access their creativity and to help make editing easier.  There is no subliminal content in any of these tracks.

Go get it at http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/w...-pack-bwe/

Thanks guys, have placed my order! 

Lano beat me to it, but I have the same question. I usually play LTU5 at ultrasonic on my iPhone during many of the hours in which I would write - would it be okay to play the binaurals through headphones and have the LTU5 ultrasonic playing through my iPhone simultaneously?

Hey @Benjamin , could you process my order if you get a chance? Would be great to have this to use when I wake up tomorrow morning, thank you. 

[Shannon]

Writers Editing & Creativity Pack (Brainwave Only) is Now Available!

This is a group of brainwave entrainment (BWE) programs designed to help writers access their creativity and to help make editing easier.  There is no subliminal content in any of these tracks.

Go get it at http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/w...-pack-bwe/

Thanks guys, have placed my order! 

Lano beat me to it, but I have the same question. I usually play LTU5 at ultrasonic on my iPhone during many of the hours in which I would write - would it be okay to play the binaurals through headphones and have the LTU5 ultrasonic playing through my iPhone simultaneously?

No.  I suggest you use LTU while you sleep and use this while you write, if you can use the creativity tracks at the same time you write.  Some people may find that it relaxes them too much.

Could the relaxation part of this program be worth given a shot for an office job taking the low price into account, or will it be too difficult to maintain focus?

The creativity BWE?  I wouldn't think it would be a good idea to be in an Alpha state all the time while you're at work for most jobs.