Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Shannon]

Just curious as to which of these two subs is supposed to be more powerful? ESPA or x4a 1511?

From what I understand ESPA is "harder" to use as it can only be used if you can actually get the one you want out on a date and be around her for at least an hour just not one time but multiple times. You can't just play it randomly at the grocery store or gym etc. but from what I understand it's not actually a sub for the user himself, it's for the one you want it to affect, so it can help bypass any resistance you may have.

If you feel blocked on E6, then ask for help.  To help with that I need to know what your usage pattern and history is.

Neither ESPA nor X4A-1511 is more powerful.  They're both 5.11G.

That said, ESPA is a Direct Exposure Aphrodisiac, and X4A-1511 is an Indirect Exposure Aphrodisiac.  There is a big difference there.  DEAs will always produce more obvious and higher impact results because they are direct exposure, where Indirect Exposure is more gentle, more subtle and takes longer, but usually works better in certain ways and under certain conditions.

ESPA isn't as easy to use as X4A-1511, but it will have a bigger impact.  That may not always be obvious in this case because while ESPA is a DEA, it is doing something that doesn't have the same straight-to-the-point effects that something like SARM would have.  

ESPA says, "This man is bad ass, and because he's bad-ass, he's got all these other women who want to have sex with him." And then her lizard brain says, "Oh, well then I guess I should have sex with him too, because he's obviously a high value male, and these other females want to have sex with him, and he's obviously got good genes." And then she starts getting aroused and attracted.  And she knows it's you she's attracted to, and why.  And the why is what makes her more and more willing to make effort to make a move, or at least make it easier for you to.

SARM says, "You're becoming very sexually aroused now." and she starts getting hot and bothered.  It arouses her, but she has no association as to why, and the only way she knows who to associate it with is if you are closest to the source of the audio.

X4A-1511 says, "This guy likes you, and he has really sexual energy that turns you on, and he wants you." And she starts getting turned on.  It's natural and organic, but she doesn't necessarily want to make a move.

ESAP isn't the simplest one to use, but if you're going for a woman at or above your own level of sexual attractiveness, it will be a very good choice, because once she gets going in the right ways, she's going to change how she perceives you, and what she thinks of you in ways that mean she's going to consider you high, or higher, value from then on.  She will be more willing to make moves on you, although you can certainly help her if you like.

Of all of them, if I was going to choose only one, ESPA would definitely be one I would have a hard time not choosing.