02-09-2019, 12:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-09-2019, 12:45 AM by DarthXedonias.)
(02-08-2019, 07:57 PM)Raikahoken Wrote: I hate to be the skeptical one, brother, but it has to be said. You've never met both of these women, correct? You don't live in their countries? And they're talking about marrying you? Correct me if I'm wrong.
I lived in Indonesia for 12 years and I've spent time in the Philippines, so I'd say I can speak with experience. Women in these countries see a man as their meal ticket. When you go on dates with them they always expect you to pay, they don't sleep with you unless you can better their lives in some way. They do get horny and sleep around too but if they're talking to you for marriage, they're 100% seeing you as a provider. This is doubly true for women who have financial issues, which is most women in those countries as they are poor countries.
The Indonesian woman is a classic maid archetype. Not educated because she grew up poor, went to another country to work as a maid (or something similar), earned some money while maybe having fun or getting pregnant (I've slept with my fair share of maids), then came back to their country somehow still poor, having to take care of parents, kids etc. I hope I don't sound like I look down on these women because I don't, but I hope you're aware of their reality and situation. Many of them see a man (especially a foreign man) as a way to help them deal with their financial baggage. They may say all kinds of sweet things to you now and make you think they want you because they like you (as much as someone can like someone from online chatting), but at the ages of 27-28 some of them are in hardcore provider hunting mode.
Now if you're ok with being a provider this is all no problem for you. On the plus side it's true they are more traditional and submissive to their man. However I raise another issue to you. You've never met them. You don't know whether you'd like talking to them or having sex with them, even living with them. Date them for at least a year first before doing something big like marrying them. For me I need to date a girl for many years before I can make that kind of commitment. Personally I also want my long term partner to be educated and not stupid so I can talk with them properly, but that's just me. You might find that challenging with these types, but if all you want is just a submissive wife who cooks and cleans for you, that may not be an issue. Date them first to see how you like being with them.
What I've said may be generalizations and your women may not be like that, but I want you to know the general culture there. Let's not get too excited here, meet them and date them first.
I do appreciate the advice though with all due respect I do have to ask have you actually read the majority of my Journal? If you did you would realize I have actually traveled to other countries (not just the Philippines as I mentioned recently)and talked to other women. So I am not ignorant of a lot of what you just said and I am quite aware of the "maid Archtype" you spoke of seeing as I have in addition many foreigners and expats that I know. Matter of fact one of my best friends for the longest time was actually a guy from Indonesia who also spent time in Singapore before he came to get educated in the US. So I am well aware of all the things you just mentioned.
As for the Indonesian I have already made it clear that if there is an emergency with her family fine I will send her back to spend time with them but I am not going to be her mother's or brother's personal piggyback and i have laid that down real clear. As for the so called "want for intellectual stimulation" I don't need that. If I want "intellectual stimulation" I go talk to my highly intellectual male friends or go watch a documentary. I admit my settling on this is due to the fact that I did believe in that for quite a while and kept on looking for these intellectually stimulating women. Every time I would get a women who would say "I'm so smart and different from all the other girls" only to find that they weren't or they just simply repeated what other smart people said. I'm not saying that to be sexist or say such women don't exist because they clearly do but I have just lowered my expectations on such things and decided to get such things from more readily available sources.
I am not angered by your response btw I am just annoyed because had you been paying attention to my journals many of the assumptions of which you based your post on would have been cleared up. I've been talking about the same stuff for years now on here. My views on Polygamy specifically and actually wanting to get married and have kids. Of course with the exception of never, ever getting married in the west since those laws are so biased against men. Yet all of a sudden when I get on this version of DMSI which allows me to get manifestations that help towards that goal and I actually contemplate actually doing it all of a sudden I get these people telling me saying how they are skeptical about any of this, etc.
I get it frankly most guys on here just want to be able to bang multiple girls or like the thrill of the hunt as it were. More power to them if that is what they want but not all of us here want that. Some of us Just want to find someone (or in my case several "someones") to have a permanent relationship with, have regular sex with, and eventually have kids with. My standards for a women I would be interested for this are very basic : Do you know how to cook? Do you know how to take care of the house? Do you know how to take care of kids? Are you going to give me sex when and where ever I want? Will you be devoted to me while I take care of you but will probably have other women? Are you somewhat entertaining to talk with at times? Do you look good physically? Are you more of a submissive type and going to respect my authority within the home (I'm a more dominant personality type in relationships as I have realized)? If so things will probably work out just fine.
Those are my only real requirements for myself at least. If other guys want to have more or have different requirements that is up to their personal taste. Any other things such as intellectual conversation, etc I can get well enough from other places. In closing I will admit this is why I was hesistant about even revealing what was going on because I had this feeling there were going to be some people who were going to jump on the "skeptic" wagon (about someone else's life and preferences I might add). The first thing that popped to mind was when Catman quite a while back just made post about how he didn't want to sleep with taken women and all of sudden his journal blew up like he had said some type of heresy. Also, one last thing Had you read my post carefully you would have noticed I had said I would actually meet them first before anything progressed further.
Anyway, I would just ask people I have no problem dealing with skepticism or questioning of some of my choices and I would gladly answer them. I would like to however those people actually know about my background by paying attention to what I have actually written in the past or in detail. Either way, I hope that didn't come off as angry though I was annoyed because your post included many assumptions about me (mainly my lack of experience or info with other cultures) that could have been remedied with actually have read my Journal in detail.
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