Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[thectexperience1]

My bad! But anyway, I'm sure you guys can tell what I was trying to say

[Benjamin]

Hi Shannon. I am currently using UMS v3 stage 1. I have 5 days to go including two rest days. What do you suggest I do? I am guessing the problem you identified is relatively minor and I should push on through?

Speaking generally, it would be good to have an explanation of how to best transition from v3 to v4 in the usage instructions when the new version is released.

It has nothing to do with the current version which is v2. It was when he built stage 1 of v3 (the 6g version of UMS) so is rebuilding that.

UMS v2 is fine.

[Shannon]

Let's see if I can take a look at the order for that and figure out what's going wrong, if it's on our end.  Do you have the order number for that?

Order #27085
January 30, 2024 at 10:31 am
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Shannon, it would be interesting to see the demand on DMSI, I am not sure why it wasnt in the poll.

And you say you cancelled the subscription and it's still accessible?  Please double check that.

DMSI wasn't in the poll because I'm not finished making some of the design decisions for it yet.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon. I am currently using UMS v3 stage 1. I have 5 days to go including two rest days. What do you suggest I do? I am guessing the problem you identified is relatively minor and I should push on through?

Speaking generally, it would be good to have an explanation of how to best transition from v3 to v4 in the usage instructions when the new version is released.

I am working on Version 3.1 of UMS.  You have Version 2.0.  As Ben says, v2.0 is fine.  I had to make a correction to the script of v3.0, which will bring it to v3.1.  It hasn't been published yet.

You don't have to do anything.

[4Kingdoms]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid267510

Alright! I think I am ready to rebuild UMS Version 3.1 

Stage 1 - 3.0 will not be published because of the issue, 

so we're going directly from v2.0 to v3.1.

[Eddie Morra]

@Shannon I have a question I have listen to OSC 6G for 2 weeks 11 clicks with iPhone thru headphone 20 minutes mask ocean and don't notice anything? What can i do to get results? The only think coming to mind is more loops?

[London1]

@Shannon I have a question I have listen to OSC 6G for 2 weeks 11 clicks with iPhone thru headphone 20 minutes mask ocean and don't notice anything? What can i do to get results? The only think coming to mind is more loops?

Uh oh...

[Shannon]

@Shannon I have a question I have listen to OSC 6G for 2 weeks 11 clicks with iPhone thru headphone 20 minutes mask ocean and don't notice anything? What can i do to get results? The only think coming to mind is more loops?

Did you happen to read the instructions?

[Eddie Morra]

@Shannon I have a question I have listen to OSC 6G for 2 weeks 11 clicks with iPhone thru headphone 20 minutes mask ocean and don't notice anything? What can i do to get results? The only think coming to mind is more loops?

Did you happen to read the instructions?

Yes, I did. I use headphones when I sleep. I live in a noisy area. You don't have instructions for those. Probably you don't need them where you are. The ultra track can't be use with headphones. Any suggestions?

[GreekGod22]

@Eddie Morra As per OSC instructions:

Only play this program on your cell phone, through the cell phone speakers.

If my understanding is correct, headphones are not recommended to be used anymore, only through stereo, for all types of tracks (masked, ultrasonic, hybrid).

[Have at ye]

Did you happen to read the instructions?

Yes, I did. I use headphones when I sleep. I live in a noisy area. You don't have instructions for those. Probably you don't need them where you are. The ultra track can't be use with headphones. Any suggestions?

Play ultrasonic on speakers. It's ultrasonic, it's a very high-frequency - it'll blast right over any background noise.

If you need headphones to dampen noise in order to sleep, play it while you're awake. It's, like, 20 minutes, man!

[LionKing]

I'm living with my wife and a newborn kid, and I'm working from home. The instructions say to never expose anyone under 18 yo, and for some programs also to never expose females. For most programs, either I don't want to expose her or she doesn't want to be exposed. (I might try to convince her of OGSF but that another story...)

A 6G program with DRS is about 2h 20min of continous play time.

How am I supposed to get that much "me time" alone every day to listen to the US track(s)? And where, would I just take the car and start driving around?

And it'd get even more impossible when travelling, staying at relatives or in hotels abroad.

What I can do is simply put on my headphones / plugs and listen away when I go to sleep (usually next to my wife). Then I can also have the program processing at night. I also like the noise and sound isolation for sleeping.

There also my aversion to the US track. 10 years ago I used to hear it loudly at get tinnitus from it. Now I don't hear it at all and its not easy to believe I'd still be able to process the messaging in it. I actually tested listening to OSC's US track for 3 nights last week (in a separate room at 3AM) but I switched back because I felt like I was losing results. Could've been only my perception, hard to tell. I am planning to try again it when switch to OGSF next as its only 10 minutes, low volume, and its usually easy to notice the new effects when switching to a new program. If I don't notice anything after 1 full cycle of US, I'll likely switch back to headphones.

[samba99]

Order #27085
January 30, 2024 at 10:31 am
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Shannon, it would be interesting to see the demand on DMSI, I am not sure why it wasnt in the poll.

And you say you cancelled the subscription and it's still accessible?  Please double check that.

DMSI wasn't in the poll because I'm not finished making some of the design decisions for it yet.

Apparently I hot pause not cancel. So I paused it only, perhaps ill return one day

[Shannon]

Did you happen to read the instructions?

Yes, I did. I use headphones when I sleep. I live in a noisy area. You don't have instructions for those. Probably you don't need them where you are. The ultra track can't be use with headphones. Any suggestions?

I'm guessing you are saying that you use headphones to help you fall asleep at night because of the noise. 

You're not going to have issues because you live in a noisy area, especially using ultrasonic.  I have done experiments that prove that even in nightclub-level noise, next to the speakers, the subconscious can pick up and understand ultrasonic format with ease.

We don't typically provide instructions for headphones because A) you shouldn't be using headphones with ultrasonics, and B) the volume is different between speakers and headphones, and C) once you introduce headphones, there are too many variables for me to be able to accurately guide you to a good sound level.

If you didn't get good results from Masked format, that's most likely going to mean that either you had the volume wrong or the Masked format is too gentle an approach for you.

I recommend that you play Ultrasonic through phone speakers as instructed, when you are not trying to fall asleep at the same time.  Maybe after breakfast or something like that.