Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Qiel]

Bit the bullet and jumped the OFv3 train.

@Benjamin @Shannon  my order says pending payment. I also do not see OFv3 in my order list. Is this a paypal thing, or is it an IML order processing thing?

Welcome to the OF v3's Colosseum.

[Kol]

Thank you @Qiel its gonna be a good one.

[GreekGod22]

I wonder if OFv3 is more powerful than OFv2. I will start OFv2 in a couple of months.
I think that if someone executes well OFv2, then OFv3 will not be a significant difference, but in someone who is no executing OFv2, than OFv3 is worth a try.
Thoughts?

You wonder if OFv3 is more powerful than v2?  What planet are you on?  Why would it take me a MONTH to add 11 sentences to v2 to upgrade it to v3?  Why would it be so smooth and calm that most people aren't even reporting anything?  It's because OFv3 is so much more powerful than v2 that it simply blows away the resistance in the vast majority of cases!  That's like saying "I wonder if 500 is a bigger value than 2?"

OFv3 is going to be a significant difference from OFv2 regardless of how well you execute v2.  It works much, much faster and with much, much less exposure time and resistance issues.

The OFv3 journals look promising so far.
I have OFV2 bought in March and have yet to start using it.
I am tempted to try OFv3 in the coming months, but that would mean I will have paid twice for OF, without ever using OFv2.

[SouthPaw]

Hi Shannon you were saying you wanted to make a few aura subs.  Please make an aura of sexiness sub.  It's one of my favourite subs.

Aura of sexiness is DMSI actually. If that what you meant then yea, we been waiting for that update for some time now. I think when it actually gets updated it will be a massive hit. This sub was last updated in 2019.

No it's not DMSI.  It would be an AOS 5.something of AOS 4G.  I am sure it would work much better than DMSI and a way out for Shannon from the DMSI mess.

Oh ye of little faith.

An aura of sexiness evolved into DMSI because of all the issues we had with AOS.  Don't you remember?  Besides, projecting an AOS does nothing if the person being affected is too scared to respond.

I know it evolved into DMSI but it got too complicated. The only issue I find with AOS is the leeeeaking and vulnerability. Close those holes and it's good enough for me.

Believe me Shannon I would love to be your biggest fanboy but I do have my doubts.

[Qiel]

I wonder if OFv3 is more powerful than OFv2. I will start OFv2 in a couple of months.
I think that if someone executes well OFv2, then OFv3 will not be a significant difference, but in someone who is no executing OFv2, than OFv3 is worth a try.
Thoughts?

You wonder if OFv3 is more powerful than v2?  What planet are you on?  Why would it take me a MONTH to add 11 sentences to v2 to upgrade it to v3?  Why would it be so smooth and calm that most people aren't even reporting anything?  It's because OFv3 is so much more powerful than v2 that it simply blows away the resistance in the vast majority of cases!  That's like saying "I wonder if 500 is a bigger value than 2?"

OFv3 is going to be a significant difference from OFv2 regardless of how well you execute v2.  It works much, much faster and with much, much less exposure time and resistance issues.

The OFv3 journals look promising so far.
I have OFV2 bought in March and have yet to start using it.
I am tempted to try OFv3 in the coming months, but that would mean I will have paid twice for OF, without ever using OFv2.

The OF v2 journal are promising too, I read a lot about it on compilated section review, one of few minor reason I bought OF v3 because the positive progressing journal of the user. Major reason because my intution said I need it asap. I'm intuitive driven person, that's why.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon, do you think that UMSv2 will be fully available by the end of June,first of July??? I had some things come up that temporarily pre empt-ed  MY supply and so I'd be able to get UMSv2,paid for( it may not be released when I do and thats OK) in FULL by   the 23rd of June. I'd rather pay for the whole thing all at once and save rather than one but at a time,which still would be cool and great for all who can and will do so. I'd just like to pay for the whole thing in one fell swoop be it full finished by that time or not. which by the way is exactly one month from now. Todays MY Birthday! yee Haw!!
This caught me off guard... thsi announcement, I had not expected this so soon. Oh is it going to be 400$ bucks or ?
If forgot, which pricing its going to be.... thanks.
UMSv2 Yee Haw....

Well happy birthday, Keith! I hope you havea geeat time with it.

I'm not sure how long this build will take. Not only am I unfamiliar with how building this gen changes from title to title, but I am going to have to literally invent the method by which to build a multi stage program this complex.

So it might be a solid month per stage. Might be more. Might be less. I dunno.

The whole set at once will be $400 until the price goes up. No idea when that's happening.

 Re-Vamp....  did the math,recaculated, listened to my gut/inution,re-worked some things and the whole vibe overall....conclusion/end result ...canceled the other priority..... therefore....
 If Pre orders are up, soon, for UMSv2, I'm all in by Mid week!! 
 Yes and Heck Yes!! UMSv2.....Yes!!

[fab10]

One day late because I wasn’t online yesterday. Happy birthday Keith!

[Shannon]

I wonder if OFv3 is more powerful than OFv2. I will start OFv2 in a couple of months.
I think that if someone executes well OFv2, then OFv3 will not be a significant difference, but in someone who is no executing OFv2, than OFv3 is worth a try.
Thoughts?

You wonder if OFv3 is more powerful than v2?  What planet are you on?  Why would it take me a MONTH to add 11 sentences to v2 to upgrade it to v3?  Why would it be so smooth and calm that most people aren't even reporting anything?  It's because OFv3 is so much more powerful than v2 that it simply blows away the resistance in the vast majority of cases!  That's like saying "I wonder if 500 is a bigger value than 2?"

OFv3 is going to be a significant difference from OFv2 regardless of how well you execute v2.  It works much, much faster and with much, much less exposure time and resistance issues.

The OFv3 journals look promising so far.
I have OFV2 bought in March and have yet to start using it.
I am tempted to try OFv3 in the coming months, but that would mean I will have paid twice for OF, without ever using OFv2.

I certainly understand that, and I'm not questioning having spent money on something you haven't used yet vs buying another.  But to ask if one is more powerful than the other is kind of silly.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon you were saying you wanted to make a few aura subs.  Please make an aura of sexiness sub.  It's one of my favourite subs.

Aura of sexiness is DMSI actually. If that what you meant then yea, we been waiting for that update for some time now. I think when it actually gets updated it will be a massive hit. This sub was last updated in 2019.

No it's not DMSI.  It would be an AOS 5.something of AOS 4G.  I am sure it would work much better than DMSI and a way out for Shannon from the DMSI mess.

Oh ye of little faith.

An aura of sexiness evolved into DMSI because of all the issues we had with AOS.  Don't you remember?  Besides, projecting an AOS does nothing if the person being affected is too scared to respond.

I know it evolved into DMSI but it got too complicated.  The only issue I find with AOS is the leeeeaking and vulnerability.  Close those holes and it's good enough for me.

Believe me Shannon I would love to be your biggest fanboy but I do have my doubts.

You think DMSI didn't achieve its goals because it got too complicated, but that's not the case.  That is what you concluded based on what information you have available to you and your understanding of it.  I can see all of the variables.  If that had been the case, we would have gone back to simpler and simpler.

The fact is, it's not yet complex enough, insofar as more complexity equates with more power and more capability to achieve more things at once.  That's why this next version will go to FRM 5.0 and add an outward facing FRM on top of upgrading the build to 5.75.7G, which is extremely complex to configure and build.

You also seem to be forgetting that things happen in cycles.  Start off simple get more complex. In a lot of cases, you find more challenges as you gain in complexity because the better ability reveals things you couldn't see before, so things appear to be getting worse for a while as you reveal and fix what was simply invisible before. The truth is, it's getting better because these things are being discovered and dealt with. Because it's more complex, which makes it more capable.

The AOS program started off simple, and in its simplicity, it worked to it's capacity, but it wasn't very powerful and what it did, didn't actually accomplish much because others have to be willing to respond to the stimulus, not just be affected by it.  Having a girl think you're sexy doesn't accomplish anything unless someone does something about it.

DMSI has gone through all these revisions because I had to figure out, one step at a time, what was standing between the user and the goal.  Trying to find a needle in a haystack in the dark isn't far off.  And then I realized that I was burning out because no matter what I did it wasn't good enough, which led me to stop work for a while and just develop the technology.  

Now we have the technology to do a much better job than we could do before.  We can get through fear and the resulting resistance in both the user and the affected much better than before.  That was pretty much the last thing standing in the way.  So now it's just a matter of having the time to build 3.4.  

Rebuilding AOS is spending the time and other resources needed to build a sub on something that is most likely not going to do the job you or anyone else wants it to do.  So since time is a resource I can't get back, I'm going to focus on what I conclude is the best use of my time, which is to finish the job I spent years working on.

Depending on how the other aura subs do in this new gen, and if I have time in the future, and so on, I may rebuild AOS in the future.  But for now, I have plans to build DMSI 3.4, not AOS.

Also remember that most people want DMSI to be finished - not for us to return to AOS.  You may remember that period of time years ago when we were in the 2.x series of DMSI and people started thinking that we were getting worse instead of better and started romanticizing how good v1 was.  Then I re-released v1, and that died a quick and unceremonious death, because they could see just how much better the latest versions actually were, unclouded by romantic memories of a past that never actually was.

You guys need to trust in my judgement.  I know what I am doing, and when I don't, I start experimenting until I do.  If the experiments had showed that I should make things simpler, then I would have.  But they didn't.  They kept telling me that there were more and more issues that needed to be dealt with and variables that needed to be accounted for.  So script to deal with and account for them was created, and complexity grew.

[ncbeareatingman]

One day late because I wasn’t online yesterday. Happy birthday Keith!

 thank Ya Fab10 - DUDE...much appreicated. had a nice mellwo supportive Birthday...gonna put my pre order in sometime this week for UMSv2.....in the mean time...AOL and the journey continues....

[freerad98]

@Shannon  Just pre-purchased UMSv2. Can't wait to experience the full-powered 5.75.7g experience.

@Benjamin Is there any way to make the last purchased item appear at the top of "My Account"?

[ncbeareatingman]

@Shannon  Just pre-purchased UMSv2. Can't wait to experience the full-powered 5.75.7g experience.

@Benjamin Is there any way to make the last purchased item appear at the top of "My Account"?

 Congradulations ,Man.   UMSv2 's gonna be, slam dunk,slugger knocked it outta da park home run.
Im in Later this week!!

[Qiel]

You guys need to trust in my judgement.  I know what I am doing, and when I don't, I start experimenting until I do.  If the experiments had showed that I should make things simpler, then I would have.  But they didn't.  They kept telling me that there were more and more issues that needed to be dealt with and variables that needed to be accounted for.  So script to deal with and account for them was created, and complexity grew.

It's hard being a perfectionist, especially if we keep adding and re-adding every new value to the work we do as the progress continues for the sake of creating masterpiece. The satisfaction feeling only the creator could feel. But that's why I believe in your work. I do the same in real life.

[Benjamin]

Bit the bullet and jumped the OFv3 train.

@Benjamin @Shannon  my order says pending payment. I also do not see OFv3 in my order list. Is this a paypal thing, or is it an IML order processing thing?

Ordernr is #38093

It's just that I have to complete it on the backend which I do daily. Just complete the orders so should be done now.

@Shannon  Just pre-purchased UMSv2. Can't wait to experience the full-powered 5.75.7g experience.

@Benjamin Is there any way to make the last purchased item appear at the top of "My Account"?

Not that i'm aware of, it seems to be in the order you purchased but the oldest at top. I'm not sure if that can be rearranged.

You can goto orders though and your latest order is up top, and go into that to find the downloads.