Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[ncbeareatingman]

Im sorry Have at ye..complaint time,. this is supposed to be some where else,posted wise. its politcial and religious!!!

[Shannon]

@Have at ye That post gives no value and violates at least two rules. You should refresh your understanding of the rules. I've deleted it, since even if you removed the offending statements, it really didn't make sense to say in the first place.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's private post journal" " I have set my goals high and I am unfortunately forced to deal with various things pulling me away from work, such as going to the dentist, helping GF set up a new light box, dealing with having to stop to eat, shower, etc. But I am going as fast as I can. You'll see why soon."

Me: dang man sounds purdy spectacular!! especially when you of all people ,say somehing like this!! I sincere hope part of it is that "Languaging thing" you're working on software wise to improve and speed things up and lighten some of your load,off your shoulder's,Man. sounds SPECK-TACK-KULAR though!!

[Shannon]

I might as well just say, the language thing is a no-go. I cannot spend time learning a programming language when the whole process has changed so much, and I have only myself to help me learn it, while I have so much to do in other directions and a time limit. I will have to do everything by hand for a while because there's no way I can get anywhere with it without blowing everything else. It takes me a long time to figure out programming languages.

So I'm currently working on three different things program-wise. I have to focus on those right now. This is a big part of why I'm going as fast as I can: basically there's all this work to do, and the learning process is going to take way too long. Plus, all I'm doing with all this to do is making myself upset that I'm not figuring it out faster.

So we will have to do a lot more work than I'd like and push hard to keep up, and I'll work on that later, as I have time, little by little.

[THolt]

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I might as well just say, the language thing is a no-go.  I cannot spend time learning a programming language when the whole process has changed so much, and I have only myself to help me learn it, while I have so much to do in other directions and a time limit.  I will have to do everything by hand for a while because there's no way I can get anywhere with it without blowing everything else.  It takes me a long time to figure out programming languages.  

So I'm currently working on three different things program-wise.  I have to focus on those right now.  This is a big part of why I'm going as fast as I can: basically there's all this work to do, and the learning process is going to take way too long.  Plus, all I'm doing with all this to do is making myself upset that I'm not figuring it out faster.

So we will have to do a lot more work than I'd like and push hard to keep up, and I'll work on that later, as I have time, little by little.

Any hints as to what the three programs are? Haha

[Griffin]

Hey Shannon, are you going to release UMSv2 the same way as LTU? stage by stage?

[apollolux]

I might as well just say, the language thing is a no-go.  I cannot spend time learning a programming language when the whole process has changed so much, and I have only myself to help me learn it, while I have so much to do in other directions and a time limit.  I will have to do everything by hand for a while because there's no way I can get anywhere with it without blowing everything else.  It takes me a long time to figure out programming languages.  

So I'm currently working on three different things program-wise.  I have to focus on those right now.  This is a big part of why I'm going as fast as I can: basically there's all this work to do, and the learning process is going to take way too long.  Plus, all I'm doing with all this to do is making myself upset that I'm not figuring it out faster.

So we will have to do a lot more work than I'd like and push hard to keep up, and I'll work on that later, as I have time, little by little.

If you're still interested in having programming done relatively soon even if it might not be ready for immediate use for LTU or DMSI, please feel free to contact me. I have already PMed Ben the details you asked of me previously so hopefully you have those available to you for consideration.

Regardless of whether you choose to program yourself or have someone else do it, I still wish you success in your current set of endeavors, Shannon! 

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon;s quote " So I'm currently working on three different things program-wise"

I take it ,that those 3 things program wise ,are three different components that go into each new build, from now until?

[Shannon]

I might as well just say, the language thing is a no-go.  I cannot spend time learning a programming language when the whole process has changed so much, and I have only myself to help me learn it, while I have so much to do in other directions and a time limit.  I will have to do everything by hand for a while because there's no way I can get anywhere with it without blowing everything else.  It takes me a long time to figure out programming languages.  

So I'm currently working on three different things program-wise.  I have to focus on those right now.  This is a big part of why I'm going as fast as I can: basically there's all this work to do, and the learning process is going to take way too long.  Plus, all I'm doing with all this to do is making myself upset that I'm not figuring it out faster.

So we will have to do a lot more work than I'd like and push hard to keep up, and I'll work on that later, as I have time, little by little.

If you're still interested in having programming done relatively soon even if it might not be ready for immediate use for LTU or DMSI, please feel free to contact me. I have already PMed Ben the details you asked of me previously so hopefully you have those available to you for consideration.

Regardless of whether you choose to program yourself or have someone else do it, I still wish you success in your current set of endeavors, Shannon! 

I would love to have someone to work on this project I have in mind, but there are a couple of serious issues I need to deal with that currently prevent me from moving on that.  I'll consult with Ben on what you sent me, but for the moment I can't move on this regardless of what I want to do.  I figured it would be easier to just try to handle the first part myself, but there's too much going on all at once right now.

I appreciate it though.   And who knows, maybe things will change and we can work with you in the future.

[Shannon]

Shannon;s quote " So I'm currently working on three different things program-wise"

I take it ,that those 3 things program wise ,are three different components that go into each new build, from now until?

No, they are three different titles.  I'm almost finished extracting E4, which should be finished being built tomorrow.  Then I have to build LTUv6 Stage 3 before the end of the month.  Then I have to work on DMSI further.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon, are you going to release UMSv2 the same way as LTU? stage by stage?

Honestly, I hate working this way.  I like finishing the entire program and then releasing it.  I would prefer to have the whole thing finished before release, and the only reason I didn't do that with LTUv6 was circumstances and timing limitations that forced my hand.  Now I'm always scrambling my ass off to finish working on two or three different things at the same time, and I hate that.

So unless I have to, I will probably finish UMS v2 before releasing it.

[apollolux]

I would love to have someone to work on this project I have in mind, but there are a couple of serious issues I need to deal with that currently prevent me from moving on that.  I'll consult with Ben on what you sent me, but for the moment I can't move on this regardless of what I want to do.  I figured it would be easier to just try to handle the first part myself, but there's too much going on all at once right now.

I appreciate it though.   And who knows, maybe things will change and we can work with you in the future.

No problem. Hopefully you will be able to have your issues resolved to your satisfaction in a timeframe you find acceptable! 

[Jake2015]

E4 sounds like it may be good for you. Procrastination may not be the core issue but rather the symptom of a deeper issue like fear or something else. If you run E4 long enough it would definitely root out the issue

Thanks for adding to this @THolt and helping out.

E4 could take forever thats my fear, cos E2 never worked and then as I wrote just now in a reply to shannon it could also work in a way that I wont know if it was the sub or not. Plus Shannon said 3G tech and above would be almost certain to work on me and that just gives me more hope but then again we thought previous subs would work on me too so im still unsure what would work and when :/

Hmmm.  Seems you have some issues with fear.  Maybe OF 5.75G could help.

thanks @Shannon I think you said OF 5.75G is 5.75.1G, and its the 5.75.3G and beyond that are bound to work best for me, so just on this im feeling its best to wait for UMOP3 which will hopefully be 5.75.3G or higher and thus show signs of working for me. Especially as ive failed to show anything from the previous subs. I dont want to try something again in the hope it will work only to not work and spend that money again and fail. If that makes sense. Im hopeful that anything now beyond 5.75.3G will work as you said as you know whats happening behind the scenes.

Shannon suggested OF now, I bet he has his reason for that  : maybe because standalone OF focuses all its power on fear removal alone, so if that’s the root of your problem it might work better for you than an upcoming sub containing FRM, even if it is .3 or .4. Maybe starting right away with OF could bulldoze your fear and open the door for the coming subs to work for you. Could it be that some subconscious fear is stopping you from starting OF and wait instead for something that does not even exist yet? I remember Shannon saying how fear will do anything to save itself and can play its card very smartly. 

It’s just my two cents, I can be a bit blunt at times but I mean well , I hope I am not offending you.

Hey apologies for the late reply Fab10 and no offence taken at all, I appreciate the 2cents from you and anyone and all as we're kinda all in this together too so thanks!

I hear you im just trying to be wise both with my time and with my money. Since ive had no results from subs as yet (whether due to stonewalling I did or when I didnt) ive been reluctant to jump on anything too quickly. The ONLY conscious fear I have now is what if I spend money on another sub and it doesnt work as yet.... or put another way I dont want to waste time on the wrong sub either.

BUT im also basing my next moves on what shannon wrote to me here:

You may end up deciding that "going in through the window" is easier than "going in through the front door".  What I mean by that is, trying to go directly after procrastination may not be the best way to approach this.  You may want to do something like LTUv6, E4, OF 5.75G or something along those lines.  However, when I release UMOP v2, I will be very interested in seeing how it affects you.  

OF is considered 5.75.1G; LTU v6 is 5.75.2G; and everything from then on will be 5.75.3G or later.  This level of subliminal should be able to achieve its goals, even with you, if you use it properly.  

My take away from this seems to be and please you or @Shannon correct me if im wrong im just being honest on how im understanding things. so in order of how they are stated...

a) Perhaps try another way around this instead of going after procrastination itself. This makes complete sense to me but in a way because ive tried other subs and the only things i noticed were some dreams, im unsure if this is yet the wise step for me. If I hadnt tried other subs such as E2 promising the wall etc then I would jump at another sub, im just being sure im spending my money and time in the best way and simply not jumping on the next sub to be released in the "hope" it works today. ive done that and then got sad.

b) UMOP3. Shannon will be very interested in how this affects me and so will I as I want it to work but also to give Shannon the best feedback via my journals so he can figure me and it out lol I think a wise question to ask is when will UMOP3 be released, I believe shannon said end of this year that means december 31st latest so even if january or february even that gives me around 3-4months. If I bought OF that would null the money back. Im not fussed about the money back though if it works, but 8months is its user time for it to be effective, and so any point in starting it to then stop for UMOP3 and thus for its work to maybe reverse back if it did to anything? and yes if I started I would want to jump onto UMOP3 but that depends on if Shannon believes that to be a wise move. How could I not jump on UMOP3 when its released, its too tempting not to lol Hope that made sense.

c) "OF is considered 5.75.1G; LTU v6 is 5.75.2G; and everything from then on will be 5.75.3G or later.  This level of subliminal should be able to achieve its goals, even with you, if you use it properly." My take away from this was that 5.75.3G should work for someone like me as resistant as I seem to be. So I thought well wait for this version then and then get it and since UMOP3 will be this said version with the latest FRM and it should in theory be out around Dec-Feb then as explained above wait for this.

So thats why im thinking wait for UMOP3, its not procrastination as im ready to hit play and get going. If You, Shannon and others can chime in it would help cos then ill get OF if that is still the wiser option for sure I just dont see why yet?

anyone at all can offer their pov then please do as its all taken with gratitude. 

thanks

[tolgaocal80]

you know there is refund policy here. I understand, if you just don't want to spend time and of course effort to use OF 8 months straight, you are alright it is your decide. But if I would deal with stonewalling or simply not working the sub I want to use on me, than I would give it a try to OF, and if it doesn't work even if I use it right, then I get a refund

are you using ultrasonic? , Maybe you want to use a more gentle approach like masked sounds. I don't know your sub history or other stuffs you doing, just giving my opinions

@Jake2015
If you ask me why I say OF rather than others, simply because it is latest and more intense, just one topic on it and it is removing fears.