Have you no shame? - OGSF 5G | EPRHA 2.0

[LionKing]

DMSI 2.3 seems potent thus far. 1st night not much. 2nd night I was feeling seriously good; kinda felt like I could eat everyone. But very restless, so I couldn't sleep for many hours. Looking seriously tired in the morning after both nights. Its the same that I had with AOSI v1. DMSI 2.1 and 2.2 didn't have such an an effect, if I remember that right. Been listening an extra 1h at work, will likely stop that. I've not had any boners so far, which is odd since they began very early on 2.1 at least. Not feeling bad at all (no E2 withdrawals).

Idk, feels a little stupid to be running 2.3 actually. Considering that my goals atm are not "get laid as much as possible", but more towards the self-development side and allowing full expression.. and that its all deleted from 2.3.. well. I wouldn't mind running it with reduced Effect for a while, since I could see that as a continuation of my 5-month clearing stage (OGSF+E2). OGSF & self validation would continue, but there'd be a shift from a pure healing emphasis towards more positive programming. What's the rush. Though if 2.3 is 10x more powerful.. Btw, is the goal scripting the same between 2.2 and 2.3? Is 2.3 just less content?

I'd hate to do just 3 loops of 2.2 a day while wasting so much time on its ASRB ratio. I seem to remember the 3 loops was based on optimizing the effects of the aura, so I guess I could do more (=overnight) for general programming.

I've noticed I'm slightly avoiding AM, because I think right now it might make me return to my old ways of closing up (in expression and emotionally), and trying to "push through" and compete in situations where its just not necessary. Because of insecurity, mostly. I could solidify the progress I've made with more E2, but also I'd really just want to move on already. But not as I did before, but in a more... joyful way. It doesn't have to be so fucking grim. Though I love being primal and aggressive, but just why would I need prove that I'm better than everyone else or something when I could actually be friends with them. Am I off track here, considering AM? Because I think I might already get decent effects from it (3rd run). I'm all for eliminating the guilt of not being nice and all, but I also don't want to be in conflict with everyone, because a lot of people do not make stupid demands of me. Can't really remember how I was on AM, though I am reading Frosted's journal with intrigue right now.

[LionKing]

DMSI 2.3 - Day 3

Noticed I began to form an ego right away after starting on DMSI and reading AM post. On E2 I'm not even supposed to be too sexy or dominant or even get noticed, so I can just be and not care too much. Running a sub to be sexy takes me back to comparisons - thoughts of estimating how sexy other people are, and talking shit in my mind about bigger and better looking guys or girls who seem they might be superficial or stuck up (translation = girls who might judge me as too low quality for them wrt. to looks, status, etc., so I have to harden and reject them first to protect my ego). That's a shitty and unfulfilling way to live. Allowed myself to be as I was again, that helped.

Played 1 loop while at the gym, just to kind of bring the programming into that environment and not just limit it to my bedroom when I'm all alone. Afterwards when going home I got two very quick smiles from females when I wasn't expecting it and definitely did not smile at them either before or after because I was feeling tired and somewhat anxious. Who cares, but it was odd to me.

Still no extra boners. Maybe I'm just too tired.

I'm not at all committed to running DMSI yet. My values are different from 5 months ago, and the 5.5G selection is still quite limited (2 items). Gotta do something until AM7 arrives, though. I'm thinking of doing what Raz is doing because work is 80% of what I actually do.. but that whole slightly aggressive, smirking, sexy, powerful feeling and sense of direction is just such a big part of the me that I most enjoy that it'd feel odd to not try to develop that. To what end, status, money, things? For the feeling of it, mostly. But its ruined if it turns to anger and comparison, which imo is resistance (ego resists the reality, wanting to be greater than observations would allow). Don't DMSI to reinstall that never-ending craving for new conquests, though. Probably won't, since its based on insecurity.

[blackwing Z]

Insecurity is fine if it doesnt hinder you. Just enjoi

[LionKing]

Felt crazy good yesterday. Listened to 2.2 the night before, then next day on the train played 2 hours of 2.3... At first some fear responses, but then crazy confidence and state. Smoldering, energetic, open, etc. Went to see if a particular girl would be serving at a shop, and she sure was. My eye contact was strong as a vice, and felt like I could almost physically move her with it. She was really happy to see me and very jittery, moving around and giggling, while I seemed to full control of myself - no nervousness whatsoever. Continued for a couple hours more at least with the gf. Played 2.3 some 4.5 loops last night. Been feeling off & tired this morning, but she almost forced to blow me and have sex, thought I wasn't too excided about the idea really. Now about normal, tad tired.

But that state I had yesterday, that's what I'm looking for! Don't care about being hit on etc, but I just want to feel ON internally like that, then keep that with me as go on about my life in a BASE-like fashion. I am very drawn towards BASE atm - it'd be the perfect time for me to run it too, but I'd just like to cultivate this state more & get over the reasons why I don't normally feel like that. But I do need to really get to work on my career also. Been slacking off for way too long already. Well not slacking off, but resisting really committing to it.

[LionKing]

Hey Raz, been meaning to ask you: how's your confidence and overall socializing on BASE? Dominance indicators like eye contact? I'd think if I KNEW I'm very productive and getting shit done, learning fast, etc, then I'd have a real reason to feel confident, positive, and healthy. On the other hand there's "disconnect from distractions" and major focus elsewhere, stress, and things like that. So not sure what I could expect.

[Raz]

Hey Raz, been meaning to ask you: how's your confidence and overall socializing on BASE? Dominance indicators like eye contact? I'd think if I KNEW I'm very productive and getting shit done, learning fast, etc, then I'd have a real reason to feel confident, positive, and healthy. On the other hand there's "disconnect from distractions" and major focus elsewhere, stress, and things like that. So not sure what I could expect.

I'll have to give you a two-fold kind of answer here LionKing.

Right now on my S1 extended journey confidence is pretty good and smooth. Socializing is shining. Meeting friends and acquaintances very often by chance and am invited above-average to spend time with them. Dominance is a silly game to me at this part of BASE. Along the lines of 'I don't partake in your masquerade. I know exactly what I am capable of. If you want to know, you'll have to find out by one-on-one interaction.' Taking the lead if something has to be organized in a group has become my second nature though.

Confidence and especially dominance are getting markedly increased in stages 2-6. As is charisma. Hard to put into precise words. It's terrific. I cannot compare it to AM, but it's strong. Social rockstar in a calm and professional sense.

But I haven't had the knowing certainty that I am very productive, learning faster, recalling stuff better, etc. I notice that I improve greatly in those areas but without the limiting 'I have done it!' feeling. It is becoming slowly a part of me, but I always am sure that I can do MUCH better than this and so keep going.

Positivity has so majorly increased during my first run and it never went back. On the contrary. High positivity has become a strong baseline for me and it spikes from time to time into unbelievable heights.

Disconnecting from distractions was strong during the first run, but it refined itself significantly afterwards. I intrinsically understand now that I need to go out and party/socialize if I want to be able to stay productive and focused in the long run.

[LionKing]

Thank you for taking the time to write that! Your experience actually sounds much better than I would've hoped for (social rockstar and positivity). Was wondering how the charisma programming is like. I think I'd also like any improvements in sleep quality. AM confidence, for me, is also calm, but on SM and now 2.3 its more sexual (edgy, aggressive or challenging). That wouldn't really fit BASE, though. But it is very energizing.

Will think about it for a night or two. I was thinking of replicating your extended S1 experience, since its something I already considered with SM before. Though then I'd have to wait for that charisma. But let's not get ahead of yourselves.

[Raz]

Thank you for taking the time to write that! Your experience actually sounds much better than I would've hoped for (social rockstar and positivity). Was wondering how the charisma programming is like. I think I'd also like any improvements in sleep quality. AM confidence, for me, is also calm, but on SM and now 2.3 its more sexual (edgy, aggressive or challenging). That wouldn't really fit BASE, though. But it is very energizing.

Will think about it for a night or two. I was thinking of replicating your extended S1 experience, since its something I already considered with SM before. Though then I'd have to wait for that charisma. But let's not get ahead of yourselves.

Better sleep quality is one of the few things I haven't noticed too much (yet).

You haven't run BASE before, or am I mistaken? If this would be your first run, why not get a feel for it in its entirety before narrowing the focus?

[LionKing]

Thank you for taking the time to write that! Your experience actually sounds much better than I would've hoped for (social rockstar and positivity). Was wondering how the charisma programming is like. I think I'd also like any improvements in sleep quality. AM confidence, for me, is also calm, but on SM and now 2.3 its more sexual (edgy, aggressive or challenging). That wouldn't really fit BASE, though. But it is very energizing.

Will think about it for a night or two. I was thinking of replicating your extended S1 experience, since its something I already considered with SM before. Though then I'd have to wait for that charisma. But let's not get ahead of yourselves.

Better sleep quality is one of the few things I haven't noticed too much (yet).

You haven't run BASE before, or am I mistaken? If this would be your first run, why not get a feel for it in its entirety before narrowing the focus?

Ah, you're actually doing something different than what I thought. I wouldn't be doing S1 for as long as you, but I WAS thinking of doing it for maybe 2 months. I remember Kol reporting his ASC results getting more profound during the 2nd month, after day 40 or so, and I seem to remember you've been reporting the same thing wrt. productivity and such basics.

It is my 1st run of BASE, but from what I remember of 2xAM6 and 1xSM3, I think I shouldn't continue from the 1st stage before I feel I have some sort of a handle of the basics. There's always new resistance when starting new stage, and I think if that resistance is introduced before reaching the tipping point (e.g. day 40), then even if the same programming continues in the new stage, the tipping point for that programming gets delayed and the user expressing the desired behaviors gets delayed, and so for the whole 6-stage set you're continually almost getting it, but then changing things up and not really getting it.

I'm not going to do anything drastic, but maybe an extended S1 if I'm not feeling the effects, maybe 40 days per stage, or maybe the normal 32 if it seems progressing well. I'll be reading the journals for some hints, too. Seems like the later stages are more fun, just like AM, and the 1st half is more about grinding it out (more angry on AM).

[Raz]

That's an interesting train of thoughts you lay out here. I can imagine that your way of extending the stages until you reach a tipping point could be very effective.

But then, I can imagine almost anything