(09-14-2021, 09:43 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-14-2021, 04:47 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote:

(09-14-2021, 04:14 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-13-2021, 04:25 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote:

(09-13-2021, 01:30 PM)Shannon Wrote: I've heard of, but never used, Bad Wolf. 

This could be TID from DMSI.  If it's from UMS, then I would imagine it's a way to seek respect and status aimed at helping you achieve UMS.

If it was due to TID from DMSI or the UMS I am currently using- wouldn’t the programs in question cause a change in vibe or pheromones in relation to my body naturally?

DMSI has a module for adjusting pheromones.  But that could have been a response to seeing a way to achieve the goals of some of the modules in UMS which do not directly instruct doing that.

Quote:I also have noticed a significant increase in the power of the scent I give off naturally (it’s quite pungent) but I’m not sure if it’s due to one of the programs or my use of bad wolf along with other alpha pheromones over the last month or so

That is exactly what you would experience if you were having TID from DMSI's pheromone adjustment module - and it could also be a lingering androstenone OD from overusing androstenone heavy products without mwashing them off sufficiently between uses..

@Shannon

Thanks for the info 

I apologize in advance for derailing since I know this isn’t exactly the main topic here 

Would it count as an androstenone OD if the pungent/strong smell came via my armpits- where I didn’t apply any pheromones (on it or near it)? And what’s the best way to clean it so as to avoid that and be able to confirm that it came from TID and nowhere else- in the past I’ve used a combo of hydrogen peroxide, alcohol and witch hazel

That narrows it down to TID from DMSI. To get the benefits from the pheromones, shower every 3rd day and use fragrance to cover the scent otherwise. You'll need to stop using artificial pheromones as well.  If you dont want to stop using artificial mones, then shower every day at least once.  The DMSI module is designed to optimize your natural signature for the best sexual attraction results.

@Shannon

If I’m experiencing TID from DMSI- does that mean I’m no longer experiencing the results from UMS V2 (meaning it’s currently no longer active even though I’m running it right now)?

And why of all things am I only noticing pheromones optimization with regards to DMSI TID? 

And if my own natural pheromones are being optimized via DMSI TID- why does the scent smell bad to me- very strong, at time putrid?

(09-14-2021, 04:16 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-14-2021, 11:18 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Just a random comment/feedback.  I was really sick and I used MIR but i could not use it for more than a few hours.  This is the first sub of IML that i just couldn't use as recommended.  It just didn't feel smooth i hated playing it and i eventually stopped.  Maybe because i was so sick and so low in energy but there's no way i could have played it 24/7.   Hopefully a future version will feel much smoother, and something a really sick person can use without being bothered but making it more seamless.

I would bet good money that that was actually a resistance response.  And that has me very curious now as to how and why you would have something like that happen.  Nobody else has ever reported anything like that.

After just having used MIR v3b for days with my family, I can say that no one had any issues with it.

Felt smooth to me.

(09-15-2021, 02:08 AM)CatMan Wrote: Hi @Shannon.

I hope you can implement those things you spoke of in your journal. I think I've experienced that at times, many others here too. It'd probably go a long way towards fixing execution. Also, it may impact the external element of DMSI too given it's aura?

How is DMSI coming along?

So far work has been focused on getting the skeleton script up to 5.8G.  Once the skeleton script is finished being modified and updated for 5.8G standards, we get into making the changes to the DMSI script itself.

Quote:I'm still finding it hard to believe it can make a girl like me and want to have sex with me and then attempt to initiate having sex with me just because I want to have sex with her, and to the degree I want to have sex with her. I will have to see it to believe it, I admit. But looking forward to seeing the new program, and thus, 5.8G become a reality. The improvements to the skeleton script to create 5.8G sound very promising in general, especially given the experience in 5.75.7G which has been a positive one.

I will create a journal for you to go through in case anything could be useful since you're now working on 5.8G and DMSI. Perfect timing to do it.

I'm wondering when you're going to realize this incessant "I'm still finding it hard to believe it can ..." is just a subconscious sabotage effort.  Don't worry about what it can or can't do.  Just let go of skepticism and expectations and run it, and it will do what it can do.  The unnecessary skepticism is only going to work against the program, which is only going to slow down your success.  With no skepticism and no expectations, it will achieve whatever it can achieve, and it will do so as quickly as possible.

Of course I'm expecting this to go in one ear and out the other, as it always has with you.  I guess I will just have to make it kick your ass.

(09-15-2021, 02:24 AM)Qiel Wrote:

(09-14-2021, 04:17 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-14-2021, 01:37 PM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Shannon, I've many time read about people who don't give a crap about money, but focus on doing great work, and those people seem to have an easier time to accumulate wealth, there probably are more factors to it but may the mindset of not being overly focused on the money on hand but  on the things that brings the money, be something that could be (or already is?) integrated into UMS?

That's already in UMS.  Focus on what naturally results in money, not the money itself.

"Naturally results in money, not the money itself", what about passive manifestation in UMS module?

If it will help you achieve the program's goals, chances are pretty darned good that the program is using it.

(09-15-2021, 02:41 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote:

(09-14-2021, 09:43 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-14-2021, 04:47 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote:

(09-14-2021, 04:14 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-13-2021, 04:25 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: If it was due to TID from DMSI or the UMS I am currently using- wouldn’t the programs in question cause a change in vibe or pheromones in relation to my body naturally?

DMSI has a module for adjusting pheromones.  But that could have been a response to seeing a way to achieve the goals of some of the modules in UMS which do not directly instruct doing that.

Quote:I also have noticed a significant increase in the power of the scent I give off naturally (it’s quite pungent) but I’m not sure if it’s due to one of the programs or my use of bad wolf along with other alpha pheromones over the last month or so

That is exactly what you would experience if you were having TID from DMSI's pheromone adjustment module - and it could also be a lingering androstenone OD from overusing androstenone heavy products without mwashing them off sufficiently between uses..

@Shannon

Thanks for the info 

I apologize in advance for derailing since I know this isn’t exactly the main topic here 

Would it count as an androstenone OD if the pungent/strong smell came via my armpits- where I didn’t apply any pheromones (on it or near it)? And what’s the best way to clean it so as to avoid that and be able to confirm that it came from TID and nowhere else- in the past I’ve used a combo of hydrogen peroxide, alcohol and witch hazel

That narrows it down to TID from DMSI. To get the benefits from the pheromones, shower every 3rd day and use fragrance to cover the scent otherwise. You'll need to stop using artificial pheromones as well.  If you dont want to stop using artificial mones, then shower every day at least once.  The DMSI module is designed to optimize your natural signature for the best sexual attraction results.

@Shannon

If I’m experiencing TID from DMSI- does that mean I’m no longer experiencing the results from UMS V2 (meaning it’s currently no longer active even though I’m running it right now)?

No.  You're getting the effects of both.

Quote:And why of all things am I only noticing pheromones optimization with regards to DMSI TID? 

Because that is what you are executing with the least resistance.

Quote:And if my own natural pheromones are being optimized via DMSI TID- why does the scent smell bad to me- very strong, at time putrid?

Because pheromones work that way.  They are designed so that they smell good or bad according to how close a match they are to your own pheromone signature.  The closer they are to your own pheromone signature, the worse they will smell to you.  The more difference there is - especially in the encoded information about your immune system - the better they will smell to you.  This means that to you, your own pheromones will smell terrible, and to anyone in your family it is likely the same.  This helps prevent incest evolutionarily.  

At the same time, you may encounter a woman who experiences those same pheromones at that same level of concentration as being intoxicatingly attractive and arousing sexually.  I know this because this has happened to me multiple times.  I had a girlfriend who ended up my fiance at one time who absolutely could not keep her nose out of my crotch.  She got upset if I showered more frequently than every 2-3 days, even if it smelled acrid and awful to me, and whenever I let her sniff my crotch, she would inevitably start giving me a BJ, which would always lead to her initiating vaginal sex. 

I have also encountered women whose sexual pheromones I could not resist, and whenever I would get a whiff of one of them in particular, I would not be able to stop giving her oral sex.  It would literally put me into a "perpetually sexually stunned" state, which always required 2+ hours to wear off.  I couldn't get to sex, because I couldn't get my face out of her crotch.

Perfect match scenarios like these are rare, of course, but even "mostly a match" will be obviously attracted by your scent.  Just make sure you use a cover fragrance to make yourself acceptable for going out in general public, and if someone finds your scent offensive, then they're not who you're supposed to be having sex with.

Shannon,
Congrats on taking a much much needed vacation for the two you. rest man recoup your ass off and enjoy the heck out of it...Like Donovan sang years ago " Wear your Love Like Hea-von!!".....enjoy.

Shannon's quotes "Just to let you know, I'm still working on developing some of the specifics of 5.8G"

Me : Wow thats fantastic Shannon. I know its gonna be a real elevating experience once completed ! purposefully understating it.

Shannon: "As to the external facing FRM in DMSI I have a solution to how to make that, but it's not yet scripted. That piece of scripting will be challenging to create, to say the least, but I know what needs to be done to make the outward facing FRM module work now."

Me: Now for the first time ever I think this update on DMSI really got my attention. I thought damn I Might just get seriously laid ,down the road with this one....for me to even entertain this...shows the progress of IML, including the FRM 5.0 including the forward facing FMR in DMSI

Fascinating indeed Sherlock!!

The UMSv2 journey continues for shure!!

Is anyone on ME and noticed notable gains yet? I'm very curious to see if that program is working for anyone. Thanks so much!

Im experiencing ED with some girls that I'm guessing are triggering fear in me for some reason, like a performance anxiety, maybe a stupid question but is there any chance OF could help overcome this?

(09-21-2021, 09:28 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Im experiencing ED with some girls that I'm guessing are triggering fear in me for some reason, like a performance anxiety, maybe a stupid question but is there any chance OF could help overcome this?

I had some PE before OFv3 - had trouble lasting longer than 4 minutes.  Now the problem is I'm lasting to the point where my lack of cardiovascular conditioning is causing me to get tired and then experience ED.  So the last two times I've had sex, I haven't been able to get mine, lol.  So now, getting back in shape! 

I definitely think OF can help you with that issue.

@Shannon

How do you know when you’re playing a sub too much- or that you haven’t yet reached that point of it being too much?

There have been days where I’ve played UMS V2.S3 for 10+ loops and I’ve played it all day at least once or twice so far

I don’t feel exhausted or tired per say (not any more than usual at least)- I genuinely just feel like procrastinating and not doing much of anything to progress in life (at least with regards to my finances)- I feel no sense of direction (at least nothing that I feel to be genuinely concrete) with regards to my financial situation.

I’ve actually been focusing more other areas of my life- fitness, health, women, etc

With OF and the autoconfig I tend to either get the urge to play it more, less or even 'tonight have the night off'. I think if you're still feeling okay and not really exhausted or overwhelmed at that point it's okay.

I've been doing 8 loops and tend to go until I get the feeling of 'take tonight off' and follow that.

(09-21-2021, 11:00 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: @Shannon

How do you know when you’re playing a sub too much- or that you haven’t yet reached that point of it being too much?

There have been days where I’ve played UMS V2.S3 for 10+ loops and I’ve played it all day at least once or twice so far

I don’t feel exhausted or tired per say (not any more than usual at least)- I genuinely just feel like procrastinating and not doing much of anything to progress in life (at least with regards to my finances)- I feel no sense of direction (at least nothing that I feel to be genuinely concrete) with regards to my financial situation.

I’ve actually been focusing more other areas of my life- fitness, health, women, etc

For me, it's how much I played the subs back to back while asleep. If the next day I'm unusually exhausted, then it's too much (volume or loops). But if the next day I'm awake with pleasant feeling, then it hit the spot, golden ratio for me with the autoconfig. That's how I configure it.

My sweet spot for UMS is 8 loops. And it's awesome.

Shannon said in his journal:

Quote:Just remember that this will be the last free upgrade for DMSI, so if you have purchased a previous version, please DO NOT subscribe to v3.4; instead, send Ben a request for a gift certificate to get your copy downloaded for free.

Are we doing this now or do we wait for the release?
/cc @Benjamin

(09-21-2021, 11:00 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: @Shannon

How do you know when you’re playing a sub too much- or that you haven’t yet reached that point of it being too much?

There have been days where I’ve played UMS V2.S3 for 10+ loops and I’ve played it all day at least once or twice so far

I don’t feel exhausted or tired per say (not any more than usual at least)- I genuinely just feel like procrastinating and not doing much of anything to progress in life (at least with regards to my finances)- I feel no sense of direction (at least nothing that I feel to be genuinely concrete) with regards to my financial situation.

I’ve actually been focusing more other areas of my life- fitness, health, women, etc

I've had the same feelings about lack of direction and apathy while listening to UMS v.2.  Not being business-minded or experienced with stocks, bonds, crypto, etc., I don't feel much guidance towards money-making endeavors.  However, I believe concerns about listening too much probably held me back from gaining more benefits from version 1 of UMS so I'm going to try to not let this form of fear-resistance hold me back during version 2.  A larger data set of listeners who are willing to share on the forum may be needed to figure out how much is too much.