Warning: Not a UMOP post. Just a post to help Shannon learn my issues and mindset for DMSI. Yes, I'd like cheese with my whine, thank you.
Late last night, was on my email. Mentor was referring to something on their IG. I clicked, and viewed it. But, while I was on IG, I was automatically logged into it.
I felt the urge to look at a couple girls I know, their profiles. I regretted it, as I usually do. Both didn't show interest in me in the past, despite my interest in them then and trying for them. We don't talk anymore, they froze me out as what happens usually with girls. Both seem happy and doing well, and look extremely hot.
Made me feel inadequate and alone, a failure for not getting them and wondering why, not being good enough, what's wrong with me that they're universally seeing and hating, blah blah. All those typical wonderful feelings guys so often feel. Kept me up a long time, and is still really bothering me now the next day.
Back to taking care of tasks at hand, but wanted to post that as it's something that happened that a sub like DMSI can hopefully help prevent from being such a common instance for me and others guys like me. Really dampers life when you're invisible to women. Failing to attract women, feeling like a failure as a result, feeling discarded and alone, the works. Sick of feeling unwanted and valueless by them.
Yeah I know "be confident, have value in yourself", that sounds great. But in the end, women are the gatekeepers to whether we are accepted by them or not. So like it or not, their ultimate valuation of you determines everything with them. You can love yourself and believe you're an amazing catch all you want, that has zero bearing on their opinion of you, it's still their decision. And it's a catch 22 to try to value myself and believe I'm attractive to women, when I'm clearly not based off their attitude and treatment of me. It seems delusional and unproductive, I prefer to deal with data from reality, just like with my business. If I operated off of "feels" instead, I'd no doubt be out of business.
The idea of DMSI somehow manifesting these two girls, who didn't appear to be attracted at all, but who are the kind I want, to come back to my life and be sexually attracted to me like I am to them for example, seems so far out of touch with reality it's very hard to really get behind. We'll see, I guess. It just seems like it's from one extreme to the other. And I don't really understand how that process happens, like me listening to a program, these girls somehow "knowing" even if we don't talk now, and then doing something about it. Seems a bit hokey to me. That's my impression of what manifesting is. Never mind how they somehow "know" I'm attracted to them, and because of that attraction for them, they become as attracted as I am to them, towards me. I don't know how that works exactly either to be real. We'll see how it all plays out, just seems off in the distance. At least in a few weeks V3.3 will be here to try out.
Rant done, back to work. Have a great day people.
P.S. Late Saturday night I had an attractive girl I know text me. I was shocked by that, doesn't really happen to me, that girls I find attractive make any kind of first move. I replied. Then she said she meant to text another guy with the same name, it was a mistake. Too good to be true I guess. Asked how I was doing, I replied and asked the same. No response. That was probably under the surface a bit and helped create the rant above, I bet. Just tired of this shit treatment from girls overall, never being good enough.
Previous post was for you to see and maybe gleam something from of use for DMSI, @
Shannon .
I would say the self esteem etc. stuff needs massive improvement, at a glance. But I think it goes deeper than that. Because bottom line, the woman factors into the process, so no matter how YOU feel about yourself, she makes the ultimate judgement for an interaction. So, the internal, needs to be backed up by the EXternal, to be congruent and lasting, sustainable.
I hope it helps, been a crappy day and night, will enjoy it when these are no more...
Dude, don't you see it?
It's YOU who gives away his power to the females.
Yes, to you it does not matter how much you love yourself because you put your value lower or put theirs above yours. THAT is how you self-sabotage success and happiness.
If you were a seller in a market you would always say "oh, the buyers always decide what they buy, I have no choice".
If you were a buyer in a market you would always say "oh, the sellers always decide how much they get for their product, I have no choice."
If a female does not see the value in you, then she is not worth the time being with her.
Well, subliminal programming is, by its very nature, an "inside-out" type of deal. It can *only* influence the internal (your subconscious), which then - in turn - influences the external (because it can, and does, influence it through quantum love metaphysical hokey-pokey or whatever
It's actually pure physics and pure behavioral psychology, I'd say, but I would not say it's that important for what I'm trying to express right now).
"Manifesting" is pretty much "making shit happen". Simple as that.
If you did already have external results that would be concordant with being perceived by females as an extremely sexually attractive and desirable man in an extremely obvious and direct manner, then you would not really have to work on the internal, now would you? So you would not even have a reason to run the program in the first place. So one Catch-22 would replace another one, wouldn't it?
The trick is to attempt and disengage from whatever others might believe, or actually want you, to be. Heck, trust me, once you get 'em girls going after you there's a pretty decent chance that you're gonna find yourself facing adversity from various people - who will then attempt to drag you down, and try to convince you that what you're seeing is not what you're seeing, and what you're experiencing is not what you're experiencing - simply because they do not want you to be better than them, or may have other motivations for that. Kinda like making millions through a self-owned business, I'd bet, or becoming very good at pretty much anything.
There's only way out of a Catch-22 type of situation, and it's pretty much what Yossarian did in the novel "Catch 22": you simply say "screw this" and proceed to do whatever it is that you actually prefer to do, think whatever you prefer to think, and damn any and all consequences or anyone trying to convince you otherwise. Stomp your feet. Throw a tantrum at the world.
BTW., what you are experiencing right now might actually be a sign of turbulence, I think. Maybe your subC is trying to knock your own UM/OP fueled mojo back down a bit. I can't say for sure, but it is possible.
(08-06-2018, 12:37 PM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, don't you see it?
It's YOU who gives away his power to the females.
Yes, to you it does not matter how much you love yourself because you put your value lower or put theirs above yours. THAT is how you self-sabotage success and happiness.
If you were a seller in a market you would always say "oh, the buyers always decide what they buy, I have no choice".
If you were a buyer in a market you would always say "oh, the sellers always decide how much they get for their product, I have no choice."
If a female does not see the value in you, then she is not worth the time being with her.
I've already talked about this in that post.
I don't believe I'm giving them power through this thinking, this thinking was CAUSED by their actions. It's reactionary, I didn't come out of the womb thinking like this, of course. And I believe in reality, they already have "the power" in the form of being able to make the ultimate decision on us, there's nothing of it for me to give them. We can mentally masturbate about how great we are, how "alpha" we are, but the end call on it is with them. And that for some reason they don't see value in me.
And yes, that's great, "if they don't value you, move on". But it's happened constantly over my life, so this isn't some isolated onenitis case. It's an issue of sexual attraction and value in women's eyes over a long period causing concern and frustration.
I mean I wouldn't want a program like DMSI if this was a random case of course. It's been a very long term problem, one that I'm not even sure why it's occurring and what other guys they pick have that I don't. They seem greatly unremarkable, so there isn't even some pattern I can emulate. Hopefully my value can be increased in their eyes through DMSI someday, does still seem to be a tall ask for this program to do what the concepts say it can/will.
(08-06-2018, 12:48 PM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]Well, subliminal programming is, by its very nature, an "inside-out" type of deal. It can *only* influence the internal (your subconscious), which then - in turn - influences the external (because it can, and does, influence it through quantum love metaphysical hokey-pokey or whatever It's actually pure physics and pure behavioral psychology, I'd say, but I would not say it's that important for what I'm trying to express right now).
"Manifesting" is pretty much "making shit happen". Simple as that.
If you did already have external results that would be concordant with being perceived by females as an extremely sexually attractive and desirable man in an extremely obvious and direct manner, then you would not really have to work on the internal, now would you? So you would not even have a reason to run the program in the first place. So one Catch-22 would replace another one, wouldn't it?
The trick is to attempt and disengage from whatever others might believe, or actually want you, to be. Heck, trust me, once you get 'em girls going after you there's a pretty decent chance that you're gonna find yourself facing adversity from various people - who will then attempt to drag you down, and try to convince you that what you're seeing is not what you're seeing, and what you're experiencing is not what you're experiencing - simply because they do not want you to be better than them, or may have other motivations for that. Kinda like making millions through a self-owned business, I'd bet, or becoming very good at pretty much anything.
There's only way out of a Catch-22 type of situation, and it's pretty much what Yossarian did in the novel "Catch 22": you simply say "screw this" and proceed to do whatever it is that you actually prefer to do, think whatever you prefer to think, and damn any and all consequences or anyone trying to convince you otherwise. Stomp your feet. Throw a tantrum at the world.
BTW., what you are experiencing right now might actually be a sign of turbulence, I think. Maybe your subC is trying to knock your own UM/OP fueled mojo back down a bit. I can't say for sure, but it is possible.
Hi man!
I admit, it's still hard to believe design goal can truly work for me. Girls seem just as distant as before I came to the site years ago. So I guess that's a big part of it, it just feels impossible to think of those two girls for example, and imagine them aggressively pursuing me for sex. Seems ridiculous somehow. Sounds great and all to think about, "progress", and all that. But after so long, I do often get concerned about it and think "I've been on the forum for years, and still no gf, no sex etc." It can wear you down. This recent incident didn't help me at all, of course! It'll take some time to move past and go back to "normal".
I doubt it's turbulence. To be fair, I've constantly thought about all this during DMSI itself, and posted about it a few times too. Didn't like coming off as negative, so I stopped posting as much to avoid arguments and shit.
(08-06-2018, 01:04 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (08-06-2018, 12:48 PM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]Well, subliminal programming is, by its very nature, an "inside-out" type of deal. It can *only* influence the internal (your subconscious), which then - in turn - influences the external (because it can, and does, influence it through quantum love metaphysical hokey-pokey or whatever It's actually pure physics and pure behavioral psychology, I'd say, but I would not say it's that important for what I'm trying to express right now).
"Manifesting" is pretty much "making shit happen". Simple as that.
If you did already have external results that would be concordant with being perceived by females as an extremely sexually attractive and desirable man in an extremely obvious and direct manner, then you would not really have to work on the internal, now would you? So you would not even have a reason to run the program in the first place. So one Catch-22 would replace another one, wouldn't it?
The trick is to attempt and disengage from whatever others might believe, or actually want you, to be. Heck, trust me, once you get 'em girls going after you there's a pretty decent chance that you're gonna find yourself facing adversity from various people - who will then attempt to drag you down, and try to convince you that what you're seeing is not what you're seeing, and what you're experiencing is not what you're experiencing - simply because they do not want you to be better than them, or may have other motivations for that. Kinda like making millions through a self-owned business, I'd bet, or becoming very good at pretty much anything.
There's only way out of a Catch-22 type of situation, and it's pretty much what Yossarian did in the novel "Catch 22": you simply say "screw this" and proceed to do whatever it is that you actually prefer to do, think whatever you prefer to think, and damn any and all consequences or anyone trying to convince you otherwise. Stomp your feet. Throw a tantrum at the world.
BTW., what you are experiencing right now might actually be a sign of turbulence, I think. Maybe your subC is trying to knock your own UM/OP fueled mojo back down a bit. I can't say for sure, but it is possible.
Hi man!
I admit, it's still hard to believe design goal can truly work for me. Girls seem just as distant as before I came to the site years ago. So I guess that's a big part of it, it just feels impossible to think of those two girls for example, and imagine them aggressively pursuing me for sex. Seems ridiculous somehow. Sounds great and all to think about, "progress", and all that. But after so long, I do often get concerned about it and think "I've been on the forum for years, and still no gf, no sex etc." It can wear you down. This recent incident didn't help me at all, of course! It'll take some time to move past and go back to "normal".
I doubt it's turbulence. To be fair, I've constantly thought about all this during DMSI itself, and posted about it a few times too. Didn't like coming off as negative, so I stopped posting as much to avoid arguments and shit.
Well, I know how it is to fixate on an unpleasant thing and be unable to find a way out of it. I've been there, it's a dangerous thing and if left unchecked can lead to clinical depression, which in turn can lead to suicide, so... The fact that there's a good chance that a resistant part of yourself is using this as a tactic to discourage you - based in fear, as it's simply trying its best to protect you from something it considers dangerous for some reason - does not make it any less unpleasant.
Perhaps instead of advice I'll recommend several novels, as that "Catch-22" thing got me thinking.
If you have the time, try: Joseph Heller's "Catch 22", obviously, Ken Kesey's "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" (don't cheat, read the book.
The movie is good in its own right, but the novel makes everything much more clear), and "The Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man" by James Joyce (and I'd heavily recommend this one, even though it's probably the least accessible of the above because, well, *Joyce* - but, it's pretty much autobiographical and describes the protagonist's/author's path to saying "screw this" and doing his thing, as in - moving to Paris and becoming James Joyce, the "Ulysses" and "Finnegans Wake" guy
).
Ok, what I'm going to write might make no sense to you because you might not be far enough to understand but I'll give it a try:
You are what you think you are and you are treated by others by how you think of yourself.
By giving away your power I mean what you do is "victim thinking" and "oh, what can I do, I'm such a poor guy". And you will say "that is the truth, no matter how you look at it."
You only have "YOUR" truth. We can see the truth, we just see perceptions of the truth. A glass is half full or half empty. We constantly rate things in good/bad, better worse, it's part of how we see the world.
You create your truth by your own thinking habits.
Change your thinking habits and you will change your life.
It does not happen over night.
There is a book called "BE, DO, HAVE" and it was one thing that convinced me of the theory of subliminals.
First you have to BE the person (with your mind), then it results in your DOing (your actions are influenced by your thinking) and at the least you will HAVE what you have, because you acted upon your thinking.
I am sure you will still say "no, you are wrong."
Do you care about being right or being happy and creating your own life?
You can change your life by taking responsibility (and that is why one of the cornerstones in the AM program is "overcome victim mentality") or you can have excuses why your life sucks. It's your choice.
Never heard of that book, I'll give it a look, thanks man.
(08-06-2018, 01:43 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Never heard of that book, I'll give it a look, thanks man.
If you're talking about Joyce, well, yeah, it's pretty much been delegated to hardcore literary studies for quite some time due to its narrative structure. It's wonky, especially at the beginning (you'll see
), but totes awesome once you get into it.
What’s helped me catman is always be pushing the envelope with girls. I remember once I was taking a walk with a girl and her cousin. The cousin was hot but so was my “date”. Anyhow my date went away for a bit and I flirted with and pulled the hair of her cousin. Also persuaded a different girl to make out with me in public once less than an hour after meeting her. I just think it helps to be a sexual threat in this way.
I appreciate your trying to give me insight on DMSI. Maybe next time do it on my journal thread.
Guys, CM isn't ready to change his thinking yet. Otherwise he'd be further along. That's why I have been working on Key #2 so hard. Key #2 is aimed at preventing fear. Once that's dealt with, everything else will fall into place.
Until then, CM feels safest with his current belief set, and that's what will continue to create what he experiences. Believe me, anything you can say to him has been said already, multiple times each by me and others too.
The key (literally why it's called Key #2) is preventing the fear that results in the beliefs that are limiting the person, in this case, CM.
Shannon,
I am curious about something. Since you are the creator of all your programs and you know exactly what is in them, does that affect your experience using them?
Is it different from what your clients have since for them, it is basically a surprise....
(08-06-2018, 03:37 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The key (literally why it's called Key #2) is preventing the fear that results in the beliefs that are limiting the person.
Preventing the fear sounds like gold Shannon. I remember when someone asked about the reason for people's procrastination in your journal many months back, you said the reason is fear. You quickly admitted that at that point in time, you'd not found a solution yet to stop it in its tracks.
You've tried to "let go of, reject, release, disconnect from, dissolve and utterly destroy" fear......and some base fears have hung on. Some of mine have too.
Preventing fear? I stand amazed. Thank you. Your perseverance is opening doors that were believed to be frozen shut forever! Wow..........