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well-I'd thought those who had tread this path before might be able to shed some light..
posting on
I feel less the actual neediness for woman and more the objective, and secondary, looking at myself and desire for myself to succeed in these area.
For me subs have best results with mixing letting life just flow and
doing the conscious growth work and changes I would do anyway.
Perhaps this deep sense and questioning of my own worth and desirability is something I
have been 'running on' unconsciously that Sex Magnet is weeding out.
There is such a drive and a carefree laziness at the same time.
I am feeling much more open, honest, and charismatic in general
and am for the most part extremely comfortable, much more so than before, in social situations-even being at a bar by myself. My biggest issue now is seeing girls with guys-everything about it-jealousy-not wanting to talk with the girsl etc. Its not a big thing-just like a little pang that has me questioning why I am even feeling it.
results for stage 2 positive wise are subtle
definitely more of a polarity between myself and woman, much more flirty, powerful but relaxed eye contact, acting out on my desires more and more, and more and more not caring about the 'social pressure' or who is watching. Have flashes of feeling like the hottest guy on the planet and a celebrity/rock-star. In general much more relaxed and much more confident, pushing my interactions with woman more strongly towards sex. Until 2 days ago it was impossible to get me down/depressed in a funk. There is just a lot of discontent in me right now-I feel like I am always putting everything that matters off until later, I know I am only 6 weeks in but I have a tendency to always think things will magically get better in the future..which is true but to slow a change for my liking..as of now I am extremely glad to be on this sub but as of now kind of disappointed..not because I don't believe the sub is working and/or after it is completed will be vastly different but simply because I'm sick of waiting out periods of intense resistance..and thinking all the results will come later! lol
Hi Rainbow, I found this exercise a few days ago. From a guy called Captainjack.

I've been trying it and i'm not sure of the results, but it definately feels alot better than feeling bad and jealous about it, which I was the other night. I think this helped to get over it.

Quote: The following exercises will remove blocks preventing you from succeeding.

The mind is literal. If you have made any conclusions regarding something and you have also identified with that something then the mind applies the conclusion to you as well.

For example, if you say, “I don’t want MEN to succeed with women” and you are a man you have just blunted much of your ability to succeed with women.

See that?

Here’s another example, “Short guys don’t have success with women.” – And, if you consider yourself short, or even SHORTER than others, you’ve just subtracted your success because it at least PARTIALLY applies to you.

A final example: “I don’t want French Guys to be successful with the type of women I want.” – Now, you may not be French, but you ARE a guy, so the decision partially affects you.

We need to clear all of this out.

Process: Clearing of other males as blocks to personal success…

(Admiration means, a feeling of wonder, pleasure or approval – or, the act of looking on or contemplating with pleasure).

Think of a time when you were jealous of a male friend’s success with a woman.

Now, change that feeling to admiration.

Keep executing those questions until you can answer this question truthfully and with 100% certainty, “Did you change the feeling to complete admiration?”

Think of a time when you attributed a male friend’s success with a woman to an attribute you feel you do not (or did not) have.

Now, change that feeling to admiration.

Keep executing those questions until you can answer this question truthfully and with 100% certainty, “Did you change the feeling to complete admiration?”

Think of a time when you were jealous of an enemy’s success with a woman.

Now, change that feeling to admiration.

Keep executing those questions until you can answer this question truthfully and with 100% certainty, “Did you change the feeling to complete admiration?”

Think of a time when you attributed an enemy’s success with a woman to an attribute you feel you do not (or did not) have.

Now, change that feeling to admiration.

Keep executing those questions until you can answer this question truthfully and with 100% certainty, “Did you change the feeling to complete admiration?”

Think of a time when you were jealous of a random male’s success with a woman.

Now, change that feeling to admiration.

Keep executing those questions until you can answer this question truthfully and with 100% certainty, “Did you change the feeling to complete admiration?”

Think of a time when you attributed a random male’s success with a woman to an attribute you do not posses.

Now, change that feeling to admiration.

Keep executing those questions until you can answer this question truthfully and with 100% certainty, “Did you change the feeling to complete admiration?”

Think of a time when you were jealous of a male of another race’s success with a woman.

Now, change that feeling to admiration.

Keep executing those questions until you can answer this question truthfully and with 100% certainty, “Did you change the feeling to complete admiration?”

Think of a time when you attributed a male of another race’s success with a woman to an attribute you do not posses.

Now, change that feeling to admiration.

Keep executing those questions until you can answer this question truthfully and with 100% certainty, “Did you change the feeling to complete admiration?”

Now, do all those until you can honestly answer you can admire any possible scene of another male with a woman you desire! This is NOT a small thing. It is HUGE and it will actually remove your own blocks in your mind because the mind IS literal!
I agree with most of what Captainjack says, but my research shows that the literalness of the subconscious is not quite how he sees it. Having a block against French guys succeeding with women, according to my experiments, would not affect anyone but French guys. If you're a guy, and not French, you would therefore not be impeding yourself, as long as the subconscious understands that "French" modifies "guys" through increased specification, which is the case normally when it is presented with the statement "French guys". So I could use a sub to make me want to prevent French guys from succeeding with women, but it wouldn't affect me because I'm not French. In its literalness, the subconscious is absolute. Black and white. All or nothing. Kind of like this little bit of pseudocode:

If I encounter (one or more French guys) then
prevent success
Otherwise
do nothing
end instruction statement

The concept he presents here is based on the idea that you will never let yourself become what you dislike or resent, and you will strive to become what you admire.

As for periods of resistance, you can wait them out passively, or you can actively crush them.
@Benjamin-that is a great exercise-thanks-however the subconscious works-it seems to be of benefit-I already tried it as I read it.

@Shannon-a. I'll take crush, thanks

I've decided to give up on all objectives-simply to feel more free and happier
Interesting Shannon, the exercise does seem to work though.

How would you go about crushing the resistance? I could use that information when i'm experiencing it. It seems really hard to function sometimes when i'm having it bad.
(12-03-2011, 08:34 PM)benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting Shannon, the exercise does seem to work though.

How would you go about crushing the resistance? I could use that information when i'm experiencing it. It seems really hard to function sometimes when i'm having it bad.

It seems to work because it does work - we resist becoming what we dislike, scorn or reject and try to become what we admire. I'm just pointing out that my research suggests the literality of the subcoscious is absolute, not partial.

Crushing resistance depends on how you're resisting and what your personality type is. If your subcoscious is resisting, you first need to understand how and why it is resisting. Then you need to work to undo that resistance. It helps to consciously affirm acceptance and remind yourself that you are wanting this, and that resisting yourself is only wasting time and energy. Beyond that, it gets a bit too specific on a case my case basis for me to comment on. But hypnosis or affirmations (Beta level programming) are good for it, if properly done. Alpha level programming is also good for it, a light eyes open state of self hypnosis is great.

Some times, simply forcing yourself to do what is being resisted, over and over, will also work.
This set is amazing, I feel like there is this ego of steel 'in me' that is slowly being welded or melted down by this set. The worst of my dark night is over and now in general I feel so uninhabited, masculine, and carefree and still this intense hits of jealousy come and go like punches to the stomach, they seem like motivators to me.
As I was coming out of the worst of my funk-just seeing a couple on TV hugging would make me wanna cry-and woman seemed so beautiful I felt like my brain died and I would collapse.
I feel on another level-like the less I do.. the better-with woman-there is just this presence or this connection-I'm catching a lot of woman/girls staring at me.
During the peek, or deepest point I should say, of my rock bottom I approached a gorgeous girl in the street at 2 in the morning who was in her pajamas and asked her if that was her smoking outfit we got into a convo and she was really into me. She was taking a break from studying for finals-she was half Norwegian and half African and went to some Norse school I never heard of in Time Square. It was funny because I had just come back from the gym and was shaking with caffine jitters and bodily exhaustion-I really wanted to push things so I asked for her last name for face book-not even thinking that I don't have a legit facebook right now-she told me to take out my phone so I could write it down and then I just asked for her number and I would invite her to a local night scene I go to alot, she lives four blocks from me--she said that she was moving back to Norway after her finals-which were the next day-my instincts told me something was off with this and I wanted to have nothing to do with her after that-I just said maybe I'd bump into her again and left. Probably bailed to soon but I never want to be in a position where I am 'trying' with woman again in my life.
Its funny cause my creepiest friend has made 180 degree turn to become quite amazing, so it seems, with woman simply by quitting porn. He has literally gone from someone who was depressed and in a dry spell, now he is seeing a super attractive girl and having tons of sex with her regularly, and even before that he gets girls to want to go home with him so quickly, only one has gone, one has tried to go with him and I fucked it up by accident, and one wanted to go but wouldn't in front of her friends. Its like he talks to no one and then these perfect situations come along and he just capitalizes, he is just incredibly direct and indifferent. I taught him and encouraged him to talk to girls, get out of his house, and be social-now maybe hes gonna show me how to cure my weak points lol.
I most likely will no longer be posting on this journal-except for
something incredible and/or a testimonial
I take that back, this journal will now be a literal journal to spill out my inner workings
to know end-rather than anything meant to be informative to anyone else haha
I feel like the guy in this movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62nelnMXW3M

no-not really that bad lol
First of all, is no body amazed by my back flipping ability back in high school??!! lol

things have had quite a turn around

I've always loved being on this set but last week I went through some INTENSE resistance or something, I quit everything that was distracting me and got back into some positive and proactive habits, a few days, some self encouragement, and some sex magnet subbing later I went out to this girl I knows birthday and I met this super sexy and cute girl, we got into an awesome talk where the fact that we both wanted to make out with each other was palpable. Her friend finally wanders off so we talk, I ask her to dance, we dance, she is ok but not great, we joke some more and split up...I bump into her again outside and I say that its cold and I want to cuddle, she says 'why don't you come home with me and cuddle'. We had an awesome time and she bought me breakfast the next morning cause she had to run off to a business meeting, as she runs her own fashion business thing in NYC.
Earlier that night I had gotten another text from a woman I met two weeks before saying
"where you at?...I want you to come to my half birthday"
I ended up going but saying I could only stay for a sec-so she said she'd meet me outside and we had an awesome ''hook up" in the street-she wants to meet later this week for drinks.
things like this continued to happen with a girl the next night who essentially tried to follow me to the next place I was going and when I met up with her later that night, after I left and came back, she tried to go home with me...wasn't feeling it at the time-to tired. Anyway cool results like this aside
I just feel WAY better about myself and my life-will expand a demain...
That is awesome, my friend. And the movie looks great too! I don't entirely feel like that guy, maybe at times but people say I'm more-so like the guy in Crazy, Stupid, Love. I'm probably going to try to see that movie this weekend, since it is in my area.

Ryan
last day of stage 2
lot of great but very subtle stuff going on on one hand
on the other the frustrations are outweighing the pros
frustrations
1. Bodily and mentally extremely sexually frustrated
2. Not the typical neediness but a kind of automatic and mental anger and feeling of permanent disconnection at the same time I am kind of worshiping woman-its like I see them for who I think they really are and want to have nothing to do with most of them and at the same time I just want to play with their bodies lol
3. very little drive in this set-at points it liberated my consciousness from the unconscious patter of 'getting woman' as the drive in life and I could fully focus on other things, now its kind of just has me wanting to figure out the whole 'woman' thing without any incentive
4. Approaching woman has not become easier-in a way its become harder in a way, I come across as even more of a threat now its seems.
5. guys either treat me like gold or outright come across like they feel very threatened
6. More and more seeing woman as something out there and not a natural part of my life

the only glaringly obvious pros are that I am more overtly sexual with woman, much more present and carefree, once I am actually engaged with woman I am in like flyn, and if I am alone with a woman I find attractive its very easy to escalate.
this set has me feeling a little trapped, I don't care because its part of the process but here is the trap
1.I want something badly with no actually drive to 'pursue'
2. Its difficult to focus on the reality of putting myself into alignment with bringing woman into my life-while I feel not having woman in my life is making it difficult to focus on anything else
intellectually all this seems retarded and objectively I would look at someone like myself and say 'what the fuxx are u doing, just man up or just have fun and do it' but the way this set is making me think/feel/operated feels like I am always just along for the ride and a little out of control.
for 2012 I think more drive in REALITY and more of an ability to 'connect'
perhaps even something to do with woman really liking one as a person, or being valuable as a person could be put in there because right now I feel like my sexual identity is all woman can relate to or that I can connect with them on. I know I could what we asked for etc. but if its going to be purely sexual maybe some stuff added on how the user of sex magnet is ALWAYS the first choice with woman who want to get sexual, I'm sick of any sense of competition and even when I have a positive focus elsewhere, other dudes, or my perception of other males at least (I don't think its that bad lol), are without a doubt one of the biggest real/fictional roadblocks in my success with woman. I know Ryan's milf companion said she couldn't meet up cause she was seeing other 'friends'.
Also I am noticing that the woman who like/want me REALLY like/want me but in general I feel my choice with woman has been cut down significantly, its like this automatic process that just shuts off their potential interest, maybe they all have aids...but I doubt it. I don't know if this is true but I remember reading that the set attracts sexually available woman, what does that mean lol? Either all woman walk around sexually available on some level-despite their circumstance or that significantly lowers the quality and/or quantity of woman attracted. Maybe in 2.0-the set induces sexually availability. Were all aware of guys who walk around with a mindset that lets them meet and bring hot woman into their life constantly, consistently, and sexually and they can't be simply manifesting it all(woman approaching them), there is probably a lot of pro activity and natural coming together-I don't know where this set is going and I expect great things but I don't just want to have success manifest every 4 months on the right manifestation cycle-I want a set that I can walk away from with an unconscious competence in bringing the woman I am attracted to most into my life sexually and consistently and with a connection that in general supersedes her looking elsewhere. I am not complaining about the set, I am still really enjoying it and in general all this issues are like phantoms in the background, I am just thinking some of these things might be accounted for in the version 2.0. Also perhaps something about always building social momentum and playing to win, intention for sex/getting laid, while still being outcome detached-
while I am very interested in sex-this is more about becoming the person who can do all this
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