(03-26-2017, 08:42 AM)Sickologist Wrote: [ -> ]RT just nailed it. That's exactly what I've been trying to say. I said DMSI hasn't yielded the results or should I say in the way that I want it to be. And I clearly said in my original post that I can only speak for myself.
Which simply boils down to; I'm not interested in healing or having females trying to seduce me. That's what DMSI is about, I'm not.
When I look at the type of story telling I resonate with, the main guy is always flawed, imbalanced, yet he is irresistible to women. I believe that male and female dynamics should be based on the man being the messed up one while the woman is desperate to change him into something he's not. You'll see this in so many movies, I believe the basis for this is an inherent blend of nurturing and masochistic behavior from females. They also melt when they behold the cocky and charming kid on the playground. The way I see it, there's little intrigue to a perfectly healed man who's making all the seemingly right moves. It's okay to be human and go off the rails from time to time. That's my prerogative. If you see things differently, that's cool. The world would be boring if everybody was alike. Let me finish this by saying I sleep very comfortable at night knowing they write Taylor Swift songs about guys like me.
I really resonate with this, especially the part in bold. While I do expect women to seduce me (as they used to try to when I was a lad), I also like to keep my pain and torment in tact for a woman to sooth.
For me, I guess women seducing me is part of my flaw (that I am unwilling or unable to do it myself).
Men of value are men of intrigue.
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(03-26-2017, 09:05 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (03-26-2017, 08:42 AM)Sickologist Wrote: [ -> ]RT just nailed it. That's exactly what I've been trying to say. I said DMSI hasn't yielded the results or should I say in the way that I want it to be. And I clearly said in my original post that I can only speak for myself.
Which simply boils down to; I'm not interested in healing or having females trying to seduce me. That's what DMSI is about, I'm not.
When I look at the type of story telling I resonate with, the main guy is always flawed, imbalanced, yet he is irresistible to women. I believe that male and female dynamics should be based on the man being the messed up one while the woman is desperate to change him into something he's not. You'll see this in so many movies, I believe the basis for this is an inherent blend of nurturing and masochistic behavior from females. They also melt when they behold the cocky and charming kid on the playground. The way I see it, there's little intrigue to a perfectly healed man who's making all the seemingly right moves. It's okay to be human and go off the rails from time to time. That's my prerogative. If you see things differently, that's cool. The world would be boring if everybody was alike. Let me finish this by saying I sleep very comfortable at night knowing they write Taylor Swift songs about guys like me.
I really resonate with this, especially the part in bold. While I do expect women to seduce me (as they used to try to when I was a lad), I also like to keep my pain and torment in tact for a woman to sooth.
For me, I guess women seducing me is part of my flaw (that I am unwilling or unable to do it myself).
Men of value are men of intrigue.
Yeah, if you look at those killers for example, its like the hardwire is flipped the fuck on. Same as when I order women in playfull manner, they love it. Its like a massive turn on for them. Being in control, frame yet their innate nature to 'fix' yet not getting what they want. Aphrodosiac.
(03-26-2017, 11:20 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ] (03-26-2017, 09:05 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (03-26-2017, 08:42 AM)Sickologist Wrote: [ -> ]RT just nailed it. That's exactly what I've been trying to say. I said DMSI hasn't yielded the results or should I say in the way that I want it to be. And I clearly said in my original post that I can only speak for myself.
Which simply boils down to; I'm not interested in healing or having females trying to seduce me. That's what DMSI is about, I'm not.
When I look at the type of story telling I resonate with, the main guy is always flawed, imbalanced, yet he is irresistible to women. I believe that male and female dynamics should be based on the man being the messed up one while the woman is desperate to change him into something he's not. You'll see this in so many movies, I believe the basis for this is an inherent blend of nurturing and masochistic behavior from females. They also melt when they behold the cocky and charming kid on the playground. The way I see it, there's little intrigue to a perfectly healed man who's making all the seemingly right moves. It's okay to be human and go off the rails from time to time. That's my prerogative. If you see things differently, that's cool. The world would be boring if everybody was alike. Let me finish this by saying I sleep very comfortable at night knowing they write Taylor Swift songs about guys like me.
I really resonate with this, especially the part in bold. While I do expect women to seduce me (as they used to try to when I was a lad), I also like to keep my pain and torment in tact for a woman to sooth.
For me, I guess women seducing me is part of my flaw (that I am unwilling or unable to do it myself).
Men of value are men of intrigue.
Yeah, if you look at those killers for example, its like the hardwire is flipped the **** on. Same as when I order women in playfull manner, they love it. Its like a massive turn on for them. Being in control, frame yet their innate nature to 'fix' yet not getting what they want. Aphrodosiac.
So true. Women respond to the primal and the unhinged.
Game is exploding. All makes sense. Arousal in person, through text not so much yet again, text is easy as fuck. Getting some balls, cut the bs off. C/f game in person. I feel my sexuality rockets on steroids and am all compelling in a way aswell as being medmerizing.
Clothing gets better.
Head feels hot. My body aroused in a badass way and I frankly DGAF. walking like a king. Keep the suspense alive. Its overwhelming in a good way. DAOS delivers and its a matter of time before all falls into place. AM might play a role aswell but I want to unleash my sexuality.
1 response and its in. She wants me and its all game and balls against the wall stuff. Amusing to say and clear intent + knowing what to do. Total attitude shift. Also very dominant and involving as in owning the conversations. Eyes are hypnotizing. Like the exchange with sarge above, I wonder and am sure rollo tomassi did cover stuff around hypergamy and sexual switches in the primal sense. Edge and danger do play a role in my life. No matter what people say, I agree with Sick's writing of the masochistic nature, something I knew longer before but now take a stronger place. Sex is moral free and immersion, badassness and deliverance.
Hardwire switches are that. Like with killers the danger is there and triggers subconscious fantasies in women. Illogical as fuck yet sailing effortlessly like a magnet or hypnotizing predator. The coldness of dzemoo also springs to mind. Its like you guys do get it.
Kol is one badass motherf*cker
(03-25-2017, 02:57 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2017, 01:21 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Sarge manifested his first date and I think kiss.
I'm not sure where this "DMSI doesn't manifest sex" shit is coming from. Selective memory is not logic.
Yep. First kiss, first makeout, first 3rd date with no sex. I think that is the part that makes me think something is off on DMSI. That was on Ver. 3.0.1 I believe. But I'm willing to accept that perhaps I don't know everything that's going on. Still, a 3rd date should be "in the bag". Not sure what went wrong.
Glad Sicko's back tho. 
Mate THIRD DATE WITHOUT SEX you really need to check how to escalate !
(03-26-2017, 01:22 PM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2017, 02:57 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2017, 01:21 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Sarge manifested his first date and I think kiss.
I'm not sure where this "DMSI doesn't manifest sex" shit is coming from. Selective memory is not logic.
Yep. First kiss, first makeout, first 3rd date with no sex. I think that is the part that makes me think something is off on DMSI. That was on Ver. 3.0.1 I believe. But I'm willing to accept that perhaps I don't know everything that's going on. Still, a 3rd date should be "in the bag". Not sure what went wrong.
Glad Sicko's back tho.
Mate THIRD DATE WITHOUT SEX you really need to check how to escalate !
I was using the escalation guide from Good Looking Loser. If that didn't work I don't know what would have.
(03-26-2017, 01:22 PM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2017, 02:57 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2017, 01:21 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Sarge manifested his first date and I think kiss.
I'm not sure where this "DMSI doesn't manifest sex" shit is coming from. Selective memory is not logic.
Yep. First kiss, first makeout, first 3rd date with no sex. I think that is the part that makes me think something is off on DMSI. That was on Ver. 3.0.1 I believe. But I'm willing to accept that perhaps I don't know everything that's going on. Still, a 3rd date should be "in the bag". Not sure what went wrong.
Glad Sicko's back tho.
Mate THIRD DATE WITHOUT SEX you really need to check how to escalate !
So how does one go about "checking how to escalate"? Just curious
(03-26-2017, 05:26 PM)Sickologist Wrote: [ -> ] (03-26-2017, 01:22 PM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2017, 02:57 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2017, 01:21 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Sarge manifested his first date and I think kiss.
I'm not sure where this "DMSI doesn't manifest sex" shit is coming from. Selective memory is not logic.
Yep. First kiss, first makeout, first 3rd date with no sex. I think that is the part that makes me think something is off on DMSI. That was on Ver. 3.0.1 I believe. But I'm willing to accept that perhaps I don't know everything that's going on. Still, a 3rd date should be "in the bag". Not sure what went wrong.
Glad Sicko's back tho.
Mate THIRD DATE WITHOUT SEX you really need to check how to escalate !
So how does one go about "checking how to escalate"? Just curious
I would say he should have strong coherent frame with what he wants to begin with.
Then I'll just quote BD because I'm lazy :
"If a woman rebuffs a man coyly, indirectly, or gently, the advice I have given, and will continue to give, is to back off, wait a few minutes, then try again in a very dominant way. A man should try that one or two more times.
Notice I said one or two more times. That’s it. After about the third time, it’s game over. That guy needs to wrap up the date and go find a different woman. Again, I have been saying this to men for years. I do not believe in, or condone, repeatedly pestering a woman to get sexual with you who does not want to get sexual with you. It’s a pain in the ass, a waste of time, it damages your self esteem, increases scarcity mentality, and shows outcome dependence, all of which is bad for a man. Politely end the date and go find another woman who is more willing. Very simple."
This way of doing filters girls who wants your D from those who doesn't want it really quickly.
Basically it's just like in SuperMeat Boy you die and retry until you pass the level, except SMB is you and the level is her V.
Have a good one !
And that works all the time, 100% of the time, right?
There's difference between feeling your balls and getting laid. In the beginning it's all means necessary. And the 3rd date is infamous, it's the unspoken "fuck date". Everybody knows that.
(03-27-2017, 01:49 AM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ] (03-26-2017, 05:26 PM)Sickologist Wrote: [ -> ] (03-26-2017, 01:22 PM)NoLimit Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2017, 02:57 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2017, 01:21 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Sarge manifested his first date and I think kiss.
I'm not sure where this "DMSI doesn't manifest sex" shit is coming from. Selective memory is not logic.
Yep. First kiss, first makeout, first 3rd date with no sex. I think that is the part that makes me think something is off on DMSI. That was on Ver. 3.0.1 I believe. But I'm willing to accept that perhaps I don't know everything that's going on. Still, a 3rd date should be "in the bag". Not sure what went wrong.
Glad Sicko's back tho.
Mate THIRD DATE WITHOUT SEX you really need to check how to escalate !
So how does one go about "checking how to escalate"? Just curious
I would say he should have strong coherent frame with what he wants to begin with.
Then I'll just quote BD because I'm lazy :
"If a woman rebuffs a man coyly, indirectly, or gently, the advice I have given, and will continue to give, is to back off, wait a few minutes, then try again in a very dominant way. A man should try that one or two more times.
Notice I said one or two more times. That’s it. After about the third time, it’s game over. That guy needs to wrap up the date and go find a different woman. Again, I have been saying this to men for years. I do not believe in, or condone, repeatedly pestering a woman to get sexual with you who does not want to get sexual with you. It’s a pain in the ass, a waste of time, it damages your self esteem, increases scarcity mentality, and shows outcome dependence, all of which is bad for a man. Politely end the date and go find another woman who is more willing. Very simple."
This way of doing filters girls who wants your D from those who doesn't want it really quickly.
Basically it's just like in SuperMeat Boy you die and retry until you pass the level, except SMB is you and the level is her V.
Have a good one !
My best friend knew this chick from work for a year, before they went on a date, then they went on dates for month or more before they banged.
They are dating fro a year now.
So there is exceptions to everything so don't set limiting beliefs. Although generally it's better to bang sooner then later.
(03-27-2017, 03:05 AM)Rayhon Wrote: [ -> ]My best friend knew this chick from work for a year, before they went on a date, then they went on dates for month or more before they banged.
They are dating fro a year now.
So there is exceptions to everything so don't set limiting beliefs. Although generally it's better to bang sooner then later.
The exceptions confirm the rules, your case happenned to me too but it's a rather rare occurence.
(03-27-2017, 02:09 AM)Sickologist Wrote: [ -> ]And that works all the time, 100% of the time, right?
There's difference between feeling your balls and getting laid. In the beginning it's all means necessary. And the 3rd date is infamous, it's the unspoken "**** date". Everybody knows that.
No if you can't read it's not my fault, I said die and retry, which mean of course there will be a lot of failure but the more you practice the better your success rate rises.
Likewise the better you will be able to eliminate quickly the kind of girls you don't want in your life and instead focus on good lasting relationship that you have interest in from your core value.
I also got girls that asked to come to my place again because they changed their minds AND GUESS WHAT I don't say no because it's beyond the third date.
It's just that in general, after the third date if she said no it's a waste of time.
When you are clear about your intentions, you have clear result.