Subliminal Talk

(03-25-2017, 02:25 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks bro. Thats whats liberating. Valueing myself and free from societal bs and norms, instead of validation seeking and being a permission boy/lapdog.

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Day 5

Worldview is challenged forcefully. Its like a forcefull shift is in the process of being accomplished. I have some fleeting sense of my AM6 programming aswell.

It feels like my (energetic ) body is in a state of tension, panic and anxiety. My food intake has shifted to healthy and my body rejects whats not healthy ( simple processed carbs for example bread like substances )

Im even scared to re-engage with my girl like its triggering me in some panic attack kind of state and I possibly transmit this outward as off now. I also smell neediness which is disgusting. My beliefs are challenged as of now and im pretty down on myself as I write this. Non social wanting to hide and disengage.

are you on DMSI 3.1 right now?

No, DAOS 4G

(03-24-2017, 03:56 PM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]Massive shifts abounds. Intent is sexy. Bs falls away. Unconvering attachment, to much giving a **** and validation seeking turning me more extreme and into an asshole. Being aloof is good yet notice still frame slippings. DAOS is a great program. Still feel obliged in ways subconsciously which in turn shifts and clears up. (GSF clearing?)

Total play on going on.

Talked with a friend about dominant frames and how he plainly ignores. Got more game then realized. Im all about sexual intent and spiking emotions aswell as holding power. Also reading more about shittests which in turn can make me more needy and weary. Him talking shedded some light and brought some stuff up such as eye locking, teasing,holding power while she is on the edge of begging to be *****, continuous arousal and orgasmic states and even brought up the "pregnancy roleplay" described in sex god method.

Vulnerability and openness is a thing and new exploration. Holding back is power. My voice changes lots now and gets really charismatic. Im also mastering communication and control over clear intent and speech. Vulnerability allowing opens up a huge place to tap into.

If shes not on my dick then its that. Non investment. I dont care if "losing her" gaining deeper connection with primal stuff and switches. Something strong and powerfull it is yet making sense.

Had also a complete in the moment collective experience of communication including synchronicity and "mind reading" nothing but that existed.

Oh I love going aloof and then going in the territory when she asks if we are still good.

When one hears such results from a 4g subliminal , one wonders if we have simply made it too complicated with Dmsi in 5.5. From the start i hoped that Shannon will keep just the script of DAS plus as few as possible additions to make it work better. That is all. Now if you look at the list of additions , it is incredible almost reaching the 50 or so and we are still struggling or at least most of us. Shannon does not like to hear that his search for perfectionism is sometimes counterproductive. But he is not to blame most of us are reallly asking about one addition after the other. Now MLs will most probably have the same fate! It is sad!

(03-25-2017, 04:24 AM)Light Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-24-2017, 03:56 PM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]Massive shifts abounds. Intent is sexy. Bs falls away. Unconvering attachment, to much giving a **** and validation seeking turning me more extreme and into an asshole. Being aloof is good yet notice still frame slippings. DAOS is a great program. Still feel obliged in ways subconsciously which in turn shifts and clears up. (GSF clearing?)

Total play on going on.

Talked with a friend about dominant frames and how he plainly ignores. Got more game then realized. Im all about sexual intent and spiking emotions aswell as holding power. Also reading more about shittests which in turn can make me more needy and weary. Him talking shedded some light and brought some stuff up such as eye locking, teasing,holding power while she is on the edge of begging to be *****, continuous arousal and orgasmic states and even brought up the "pregnancy roleplay" described in sex god method.

Vulnerability and openness is a thing and new exploration. Holding back is power. My voice changes lots now and gets really charismatic. Im also mastering communication and control over clear intent and speech. Vulnerability allowing opens up a huge place to tap into.

If shes not on my dick then its that. Non investment. I dont care if "losing her" gaining deeper connection with primal stuff and switches. Something strong and powerfull it is yet making sense.

Had also a complete in the moment collective experience of communication including synchronicity and "mind reading" nothing but that existed.

Oh I love going aloof and then going in the territory when she asks if we are still good.

When one hears such results from a 4g subliminal , one wonders if we have simply made it too complicated with Dmsi in 5.5. From the start i hoped that Shannon will keep just the script of DAS plus as few as possible additions to make it work better. That is all. Now if you look at the list of additions , it is incredible almost reaching the 50 or so and we are still struggling or at least most of us. Shannon does not like to hear that his search for perfectionism is sometimes counterproductive. But he is not to blame most of us are reallly asking about one addition after the other. Now MLs will most probably have the same fate! It is sad!

No light, it's on his shoulders because that some of suggested at conception. And opts to not heed us. You can't use more the one sub at once and expect result. How is a sub going in 50 directions any different? He himself states the subconcious needs focuses on one goal. These subs are getting diluted.

Quote:When one hears such results from a 4g subliminal , one wonders if we have simply made it too complicated with Dmsi in 5.5. From the start i hoped that Shannon will keep just the script of DAS plus as few as possible additions to make it work better. That is all. Now if you look at the list of additions , it is incredible almost reaching the 50 or so and we are still struggling or at least most of us. Shannon does not like to hear that his search for perfectionism is sometimes counterproductive. But he is not to blame most of us are reallly asking about one addition after the other. Now MLs will most probably have the same fate! It is sad!

Yeah, you get such results from a 4G subliminal.. and then what?

I don't think you realize the gravity of DMSI. It works like this - every addition has an inherent possibility that your subconscious will resist it.

But, there is no limit to how many additions you can have or execute. There is no upper limit. It is unlimited, completely depended on how your subconscious resists. It can easily execute 5 million additions.. but will it resist?

Now, why am I mentioning this? Because, DAOS 4g script is unbelievably short. It is like a small paper you would write in elementary school (talking about the size, not the knowledge needed to write those suggestions so they work).

Meaning, your subconscious doesn't have a lot of things to resist, but it CAN.

So, that's all great, right? What about DMSI? Well, DMSI is up to now, THE biggest and most cutting-edge subliminal out there on the market. I wouldn't be surprised if it has over a hundred things that can get resisted.

But this also means that there are more things to execute. Hopefully, by now you are understanding what I'm getting at.

The more things you have to execute, the stronger and more obvious the results will be as time passes on, and as resistance falls off naturally, the more modules come into life.

To compare DAOS 4g and DMSI 3.1 :

DAOS - the basic sexual aura, self confidence.

DMSI - Snipers, auric shielding, self confidence, complete clearing out of anything sexual (which also means everything that interferes with the aura), reality bending, manifestation, guilt/fear/shame clearing (which also interferes with the aura) and so on.

Now, tell me, do you think a basic sexual aura and increased self confidence can compare, in the long run, with the fully powered and activated, reality bending and fully cleared out, aura?

My point has been made. leepy:

Also, everyone is struggling because there are mountains of things that need to be cleared for maximum effectiveness of DMSI execution. But, that isn't 100% DMSI's fault (as I said, each module has a chance to be resisted), since it is YOUR subconscious that decides what to execute and what to resist.

Ultimately, it is you who executes, DMSI doesn't do shit. It's just a set of instructions. It is up to you to take responsibility.

Quote:No light, it's on his shoulders because that some of suggested at conception. And opts to not heed us. You can't use more the one sub at once and expect result. How is a sub going in 50 directions any different? He himself states the subconcious needs focuses on one goal. These subs are getting diluted.

50 directions?

Every single addition Shannon has made to DMSI has a very well defined purpose. He himself stated it, yes, and he is sticking to what he said.

The subs aren't getting diluted, they are getting stronger and stronger, with increasingly powerful technology that literally allows your subconscious to BEND reality..

.. while still keeping each goal in mind, with additions that are like support columns that allow the goal to be reached in a powerful and quick manner.

Of course, we bend reality all the time, but with subs, it's a completely new league of bending.

If you don't believe me, examine each DMSI addition carefully, and you'll be able to see how each module connects to ultimately allow you to reach DMSI's goal.

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Now, tell me, do you think a basic sexual aura and increased self confidence can compare, in the long run, with the fully powered and activated, reality bending and fully cleared out, aura?

My point has been made. leepy:

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Do you actually have any experience running DAOS?

Why is that every member who has run that sub has reported results in some way, often instant results? Some guys got scared shitless after getting IOI's and went back to AM or E2. But me and Justin were in it for the long haul and the results speaks for themselves. Kol is a guy who really gets it, and instant results like I said. It only gets better.

It really depends on how you look at it and how you view game. It's individual and I can only speak for myself. I'm also the only member here who have been running DAOS (15 months) and all the versions of DMSI (bar 2.5). Correct me if I'm wrong here.

My ranking:

1. DAOS
2. DAOS + BIATBWS
3. v1

The rest of the versions has not been working well for me. I had some results with 2.3, but nowhere close to the above mentioned. This is not meant as an attack towards anybody. I can see the appeal in the new addition, but it's not working for me. I've used 3.1 B for about a month now with very underwhelming results.

There's been a couple of really hot girls expressing interest, besides that, nada. I've been extremely reluctant to seduce these girls, feeling like a complete pussy now that I think of it. I'm just neutral. I hate that feeling, I want the excitement and passion to come back by the prospect of hitting on girls like it used to be, things were going so well. And don't give me any shit about resistance and stuff like that, I know when something ain't right.

New tech isn't always better tech. For example, new cars are generally crap. With more additions the likelyhood of something getting ruined is increased. Get yourself an old Rolls Royce and you're good. Looks better too, it allows for more uniqueness. Not the best analogy, but that's what I've got right now.

I want to go into a bar like I did on DAOS and get the attention of the majority of girls and take it from there, motherf*cking foodchain game. If the 7's are into me and the true hotties see it, that's a good thing. It's not happening with the new additions.

And I will never be comfortable with girls trying to seduce me, it feels unnatural and they're always so weird about it. Let's leave that in the hands of the professionals. With DAOS I had more room to experiment.

Guys can run whatever they want, but Sicko is going old school. DAOS, pheromones and Jack Daniels is all he needs to get outstanding results.

DMSI ain't for me.

Good to see you Sicko and thank you for stopping by.
The foodchain game comment spikes the fire in me so to say.

I also feel like my subconscuous is trying to push me in the direction of similarities of the style of julien blanc, even if it means force, so be it not to say, DAOS may go even deeper then that. I also feel my subconscious is being directed towards a certain direction.

Turn the world in a fucking orgy. Seduced and seducing. The women that tried to seduce me in the past, and, flirtiness can be quite covert in ways to me. I want to be this unchained beast that is being recognized in ways by sheer presence and non neediness. Walking in the room noticed through sheer presence. Its only the beginning and things fire up already in instant effects

Letting go of garbage is a thing aswell. Like a shimmering diamond beneath. Have some pre-paving done already in terms of seduction, sex and the such by applying and afopting it before.

Letting the sub run its course. Drown or win, im in even if it means drowning. No question my 2 runs of AM6 have layed a nice base aswell. I see myself run DAOS for a long time with the refresher as a backbone weapon alwsys ready to be used at my disposal.

When I used AOS on the first week, a girl on the street a 7.5, said to me "I don't know who's prettier you or me"

No additions. Just AOS 8hrs a day.

This sub will be so much fun in a slight devilish way.

(03-25-2017, 11:48 AM)Darkness Wrote: [ -> ]When I used AOS on the first week, a girl on the street a 7.5, said to me "I don't know who's prettier you or me"

No additions. Just AOS 8hrs a day.

I see this happen aswell. First 2 days I already had a 8/10 show overt submissive behaviour. I know some patterns hold me in stale yet in the past while being on ASC and cory skyy I escalated easily and without any hesitation. If this means green light, I'll take it

Shits getting really easy. Asked the girl im dating for a second date right off the bat. It just happens. No regrets, simply natural without me holding back

Tune of the day


No fucks given about flaking like, none. No single response. Shes free to come and thats about it. refreshing as fuck. What a change. Sets the whole texting also in a direct way, like, no endless text. Rather self mastery and control. Banter play.

Sickologist -- it's good to see you're here. Wish you'd update your journal.

Couple of problems with the logic here.

1. Kol just finished AM6. He's experiencing the AM6 w/ SM3 lead-in bloom. When I came off of my year of AM6, I got the same exact results he's getting without running AOS. In addition, he's reporting the same stuff that DMSI users get -- just without the massive, life-changing benefits (see point #2)

2. The scope and target goal of DAOS and DMSI are vastly different. They are going to take vastly different routes to the end goal and manifest in life in vastly different ways. Users running DMSI are experiencing life-changing events that are shifting their realities on a path to maximize their sexual irresistibility.

For example -- and I'm gonna call a few people out who should be posting their results, but arent:

* DMSI led me to a very easy, stress-free six-figure job where I'm quickly moving up the ranks and becoming the department superstar. I have a beautiful woman in my Muay Thai class desperately trying to get my attention, but I'm not sure if I want to date where I train. The MT coach is singing my praises -- he singled me out at the end of class the other day and told the other students to be more like me.

* Another person on this forum just scored an internship with a very powerful real estate broker in his city. From what I understand, this person had two interviews with two very rich people in like two days and both were insanely interested in him.

* Another person was just hired to work with a major player in Hollywood. You'll see this guy at the Oscars in a few years, I can sense it.

I'm sure DAOS is a great sub, no doubt. But doing a quick search through the forum archives, I see nothing to suggest that it's superior to DMSI -- only different. It has a very singular focus, so of course it's easier to execute.

That doesn't mean DMSI is flawed. It's an entirely different approach to reaching this goal. The problem was always our expectations that it would happen immediately, and a seemingly lack of understanding what an unfinished product is. Leonidas constantly said that he believes it'll take six months to a year of running DMSI to reach maximum sexual irresistibility and I'm with him on that one. Honestly, I believe someone needs to stay on v3.1 for a few months so we can finally get some super reliable data. Someone -- I think it was RTBoss -- said something along the lines of, "what if v1 was the best sub ever made, but since we switched so quickly, we never found out?"

I can see such amazing changes in my life thanks to v3.1. The clearing cycles are slowing down and they aren't as intense. But the moment I switch to v3.2, everything starts over. I now have to clear the new sh*t that was added too.

Look...

DAOS is making you dress and act sexy. DMSI is trying to turn you into motherf*cking Chris Hemsworth. It's not an easy task and it's one that takes time and dedication to make happen. And there's going to be tons of resistance along the way because society doesn't want you to achieve ANY of the goals of DMSI. They both HATE and ADMIRE strong, masculine men.

I took my kid to see Beauty and the Beast today and it was full of SJW crap. Not to mention the SJW-infested trailers for THE SMURFS (f*cking really???) and the new Transformers movie.

@ chaos

DMSI is trying to turn you in to chris hemsworth bc it has DAOS in it.

Is DMSI achieving it's goal, no I think it needs to be streamlined and singular.

DAOS is 4g and it's having a palpable tangible result.

Has DMSI achieved it's main goal for you for me and those other users, no.

You just stated side effects, but what about the titular one? Sex

Good to see you guys too.

Chaos, I can't see what's "logically wrong" with stating what works for me and what hasn't. Yeah, they're different subs and so far DAOS has been best for me. That's not my opinion, it's a fact.

I never said DMSI isn't working, I'm just saying I don't like the results because I don't want those results. Same with 3.0 which I quit after 7 days. There's nothing illogical about that.

After I quit 3.0 running no sub these things happened:

- Won my first fight by knockout in the 2nd round

- Attracted 2 fwb's and 1 ons in a month

- Won close to $6000 in sports gambling

I'd say it's more illogical to assume that ALL of those results you mentioned DEFINITIVELY happened because of DMSI.

Awesome shit can happen with or without subs, I got more attraction using nothing and I had 10 times more success with using Aqua Vitae around some girls than I ever got from 3.0 or 3.1. Phero's are auric too, no? 'specially when the ioi's come flying from 20-50 yards. There was a stripper from Scotland and her Dutch friend who were objectifying me an entire night using Aqua Vitae, the phero known for being simple and even "brutish". Then these amateurs on pherotruth wonder why they don't get any results wearing all these "advanced" combos with like 8 different products. Contradictions, all I have to say. Same with DMSI, it made me resist my own nature.

Anyways, good to see you train Muay Thai, bro. After what I've seen I'd be leery about learning it from anyone who is not thai and hasn't won anything significant. I've seen some shit and sparred a bunch of wannabe's, Americans are no exception. And these guys are "certified Muay Thai trainers" after a week long course, lol, with no actual ring experience besides some random TKD or whatever. Not to sound cynical, but ask for their credentials or your money back, most likely both.

(03-25-2017, 01:15 PM)Darkness Wrote: [ -> ]DMSI is trying to turn you in to chris hemsworth bc it has DAOS in it.

Is DMSI achieving it's goal, no I think it needs to be streamlined and singular.

DAOS is 4g and it's having a palpable tangible result.

Has DMSI achieved it's main goal for you for me and those other users, no.

You just stated side effects, but what about the titular one? Sex

If you want a "streamlined result," run DAOS, as you've just stated. If you want to develop MAXIMUM SEXUAL IRRESISTIBILITY, which goes beyond just being physically attractive and involves being a badass in other aspects of your life, then run DMSI. The argument isn't whether DAOS is a good sub or not. It's a different tool with a different purpose.

Btw, 4Kingdoms just manifested sex with an 18 y/o hottie just a few days ago.
Samba just manifested sex.
I've manifested sex multiple times across DMSI, including the most physically attractive woman I've ever been with (v2.3, I think? Hot blonde for anyone wondering).
Aventus has manifested sex and lost his virginity on DMSI.
Eternity has manifested sex.
Kenpachi manifested sex (and lost his virginity).
Sarge manifested his first date and I think kiss.

I'm not sure where this "DMSI doesn't manifest sex" shit is coming from. Selective memory is not logic.