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Day 28

Currently listening to: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zWS9s3WwZWM

In the last two days I have hung out with three different women and heard from another woman that I haven't spoken to in 6 months.

I won't make this post a long update, as I'll probably be updating more frequently now.

I've been on Version B for 8 days now. And Version B is just starting to heat up for me.

To get to the point, and cut the bullshit, I had lunch with another friend of mine yesterday. She's someone I have always been very attracted to, but, I have never made a move on her in the past because she has a boyfriend and I always tried to be respectful of that.

She called me out for lunch, saying she wanted to treat me. Over lunch she went into how her boyfriend was the safe choice, and how she isn't feeling sexually fulfilled. Then she went on to tell me how her boyfriend wasn't comfortable with the fact that she was having lunch with me.

I know her boyfriend, he's the epitome of a beta nice guy. He's beta and honestly a very nice guy. She's very attractive and successful in her career. He is too, he definitely makes good money, works for one of the big Investment Banks.

Anyway, something about him feeling uncomfortable because she was having lunch with me triggered something.

So I stopped eating, looked her in the eye, and said pick a night and I'll take you out for dinner and a movie. And after the movie we'll go back to my place and I'll F*ck your brains out.

She stopped eating, held my gaze, and then asked when.

And there was some other shit that happened last night that involved two women competing for my attention. And more shit that happened tonight. It's a lot, and it's hard verbalizing all of it, which defeats the purpose of writing in a journal.

But, DMSI is executing for me. No resistance, no headaches, just raw power directed at getting to the end goal.

I'll post more details over the weekend.

I love 3.1...
(....)
fucking awesome
Day 30

Currently listening on repeat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQLWuWVut4M

My last post didn't go into a lot of details, and now that I had a few hours to shut off, I feel like I can put some more detail into the last few days.

To add some context to Wednesday, the friend who called me and wanted to treat me to lunch, I'll call her A. I've known her for a few years. She was in the early dating stages of her current relationship when we first met, and later on it got serious between her boyfriend and her. I see her pretty infrequently, and the last few times prior to Wednesday's lunch, her boyfriend was with her.

Anyway, she called me out of the blue on Wednesday and said she was close to where I was and wanted to grab lunch, her treat. Over lunch she got into the details of her relationship, and then she mentioned in passing how her boyfriend was uncomfortable with her having lunch with me.

Again, there was something about that, that just triggered this feeling within me where I just came to the conclusion of, well, if he's going to be uncomfortable, why the hell am I holding back? Her boyfriend and I aren't friends, we're acquaintances and I have no allegiances to him. That's when I told her what I did.

Anyway, we finished lunch, she picked up the tab and we walked for a bit. Before parting ways I held her close to me, and she stayed in my arms for a long time. And then I kissed her. We're seeing each other again either next week or the week after, depending on how my schedule looks.

Wednesday night I had drinks with C. That was interesting also. I told her I would meet her at one of my spots, because one of my boys was going to pass through. This particular spot I would frequent with my boy D often, because he's tight with the bartender there. She's a really attractive model / actress (every hot bartender in NYC is either an actress or model). I'll call her H, because she apparently has a role in my new DMSI influenced life now.

Anyway, My boy is really tight with H, and I know her, we banter, but I'm not tight with her like that.

So as I'm walking to the spot I see C enter, and I trail right behind her. So as she's scoping, she turns around to see me standing there, and she gives me a really big hug. I then see H, and H gives me this really hostile look. I brush it off, and ask C what she wants, and she says the same I'm having, so I order two ciders. H gets two bottles and literally rips the caps off the bottles. Even that, I was like wtf. Anyway, she gives me the bottles and I take a seat at one of the bar stools with C and we just get into catching up.

About 15 minutes later my boy D rolls in, says what's up, and grabs a seat at the bar and orders himself a beer, away from C and I. Anyway, H starts interrogating him about who C is and why she's there with me. She was being loud enough that I could hear her. Halfway through my time with C, D texts me and tells me that H is catching feelings about me being there with C.

Anyway, D leaves at some point, stops by to where I'm sitting before he goes, and C and I carry on. I was with her C almost two hours. At some point in the conversation she tells me that I have a fan club, amongst the group of women that I know C from. She says that she's also one of my biggest fans. I brush it off. We then talk about going away to a beach resort for a weekend together once the weather warms up. It starts getting later into the night, and I decide to cut it and head home as I was tired. I go to close out the tab and H gives me the cold shoulder. I pay and am about to go back to where I was sitting to grab my jacket, except that C already has it in her hands and is holding it for me.

C and I take the train together, and as I'm getting off on my stop, she comes in and goes for a long, intimate hug.

Thursday I was hanging with my boy D again, and two of my other boys were in town for a work conference. We ended up grabbing dinner at a spot in Hell's Kitchen, and the waitress we had was stunning. She'd look at me every time she'd pass by. Eventually we had a group of 3 girls and a guy take the table next to ours. The girl I found most attractive in that table kept locking eyes with me. I was tempted to step to her, but I reminded myself that Thursday night was to chill with my boys.

Anyway, one of my boys picks up the tab for dinner and as we start to leave, our waitress practically slams into me. Her lips just barely missed pressing against mine. barely. She was flustered afterwards and kept apologizing. I laughed it off and left.

Next we ended up at my favorite doughnut shop in Chelsea for dessert. The girl working the register was this really cute Asian girl. She was adorable. So I bantered with her for a bit and she gave us free donuts and discounted my overall order price also.

Thursday I had also heard from someone I hadn't spoken to in almost 6 months. She was also someone I knew for a few years, who had moved out of NYC in the last year. Anyway, we touched base briefly on Thursday, and on Friday night she called me and we had a chance to catch up. She was planning to come back to NYC and wanted to see if I would be around. I asked her when she was coming, and after she told me her dates, I said I would be in town. She then asked me if I could take time off while she was in the city because she wanted to spend the majority of her time with me.

I agreed to that as well, and asked her if she wanted to just stay with me. She was pretty enthused about the idea and said she'd be more than happy to do anything I wanted while she stayed with me. I jokingly said that she'd have to cook for me and give me sexual favors. She said she was happy to do both.

This morning I get a call from K. She ended up waking me with her call, and then told me that she wanted me to come over as she was in the mood to cook for me. Honestly, my first thought was that she was trolling me for April Fools - she's gotten me good in the past. Anyway, I get out of bed and get dressed, I didn't even bother showering, and headed over to her place. She lives 20 minutes from me, give or take.

Sure enough, she had a pretty amazing breakfast spread laid out for me. So we had breakfast together, and after I was done she just came over to where I was sitting and straddled herself on me.

After we had sex, I just lounged in bed with her until the early afternoon, at which point I came home.

I spent the rest of my day at home, just zoning to music. Today was 10 days of side B. I'm going to stay on B for another 10 days or so before I switch back to A for another run.

I'm seeing Y again later this week, and there are a few other women I met late last week that I am going to be seeing soon. The list of women is ever expanding.

Today I finally did get a whiff of exhaustion. I'm gonna spend the rest of my weekend crashing in and just zone to good music and recharge some.
(04-01-2017, 08:13 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Some recommendations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxuEBt_RIRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TzNByBlpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peRS3KGNxoY

I honestly haven't even made it to the third pick yet, the Kavinsky - Odd Look track is ridiculous...

Reminds me of Daft Punk's scoring for Tron Legacy.

Thank You for these recommendations - Odd Look is currently on repeat. I still need to hear the third track!!
(04-02-2017, 09:42 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-01-2017, 08:13 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Some recommendations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxuEBt_RIRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TzNByBlpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peRS3KGNxoY

I honestly haven't even made it to the third pick yet, the Kavinsky - Odd Look track is ridiculous...

Reminds me of Daft Punk's scoring for Tron Legacy.

Thank You for these recommendations - Odd Look is currently on repeat. I still need to hear the third track!!

First time I heard "Odd Look," I was blasting down the Pacific Coastal Highway (http://i.imgur.com/jRs6EGO.jpg) just outside of Los Angeles in my convertible Mustang -- top down of course. Straight fell in love with the song, listened to it for like an hour, lol.

Man, I miss California.
Day 35

Currently listening to: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wop99PIQHa4

The last few posts have been about all of the experiences I've had with women. I haven't really posted anything about all of the internal changes that DMSI has made within me. I figured I would start with an external example and use that to segway into where I am internally these days.

A called me about two days ago. I was in the middle of dealing with a work matter. I let the phone go to VM. 15 minutes she called again. I once again let it go to VM. Then she called yet again 30 minutes later. I was still buried in work, but decided to pick up.

After the first few minutes of pleasantries, she asked what I was doing and told me she called me twice before. I said I saw, I was working. She then tells me that she doesn't think we can have sex and last week was a mistake.

Now, I was in the middle of resolving a work matter and I was really focused on that. I honestly didn't care what she was thinking or how she felt. So I told her to stop overreacting and feeling guilty about it and I would see her next week.

She replied she would only meet me as friends. I wasn't in the mood, so I asked her how many times she finger f*cked herself in the past week while thinking about me. She said I was an asshole for talking to her like that. I told her that she didn't deny it. And then I asked her again how many times.

She got quiet for a few seconds and then replied a few times. I told her the reality is better than the fantasy and that I would see her next week and we can f*ck then and hung up on her. And I went back to work.

The thing is, I wasn't purposely trying to be an asshole to her. I really just wanted to finish what I was working on, and I knew what she was saying to me was her conscious making her feel guilty. And I knew that her desire was stronger than her loyalty. And, in the end, I'm the one doing her a favor. She hasn't been sexually satisfied in a long time, and I know that I'll break her in bed. Right now, she's just another woman in a list of women that I am intimately involved with in some shape and form.

Which feeds into where I am mentally these days. I can't even begin to describe the internal changes that are occurring within me. I have a complete emotional detachment to most women. Wolverine mentioned this in his journal about feeling primal. I am in many ways feeding into my most basic instincts. In the process of coming to this point, I see things very differently. Especially when it comes to women.

I'm no longer swayed by a woman that is the most attractive. I am interested in the woman that will be the most sexually responsive. Hot women doesn't always translate to hot sex. Guys make that mistake a lot of the times.

And even the idea of getting laid. Sex is the easiest thing right now. When I meet a woman now, I make my intentions clear right from the outset. If one woman doesn't agree with it, it doesn't matter, there's always another that will.

I had a lot of other things I wanted to say, but, I'm writing from a mobile and I want to flesh my internal thoughts out some more. I'll post a detailed update over the weekend. I'm seeing Y tonight also, so that'll be in my next update as well.

I'll close this entry out with the immortal words of Jimi Hendrix -

'Cause if my baby don't love me no more
I know her sister will
Hey Duke! Have you read any of Alan Roger Currie's stuff? Because that's exactly what you're portraying here! Big Grin

I've always wanted to be bold and set things straight from the get-go, but never could, out of fear. Some changes happening towards that at the moment tho, which I will document on my last side A update in a few days and switch to side B right after.
Hey Blink, I can't say that I have read Alan Roger's work. To be absolutely honest, I've never read anything related to PUA material (I'm assuming that Alan is a PUA guy). The only thing I ever read was the Game. That book was recommended by a friend.

I also had an old gf that was into the VH1 show with Mystery from the game. That was a long time ago...

Honestly, when it comes to women these days, I just set it straight. I'm not looking to get into a relationship with these women or anything like that, it's just sex really. Either they are good with it or they're not. I just don't see any point in trying to mask the intent behind socially acceptable rituals.

Either we do or we don't.
Would you say that B has helped with professional life and shit as well? Or is it more just 100% focused on sex? The reason I ask is becuase I think my subconscious is building me into a professional and financial success in order to achieve maximum sexual irresisitiblity, but am afraid that B will abandon those aspects of my growth just to get immediate sex here and now.

Also, were your first day or two on B notoriously rough? I am just finally getting out of a major insanity bend after running B two days in a row. To be fair, I might have also fucked myself when I gave up on B and ran two loops of A directly afterwards, but I almost always immediately notice B making me violently depressed, aggressive, insecure and anxious, whereas A is more of a hit-or-miss--it might make me like that, or it might make me insanely confident.

But it seems that almost everyone is having very little "success" or noticeable positive growth on A and immediate positive growth and results on B, which makes me want to try switching and just to push through. How long did the B results take to come in, and are they just limited to sex, or has B impacted all areas of your life so far?
B will drive you to a goal in the fastest way possible, and morph the world around you to model itself around executing that initial goal. That means different things to different people. Has B helped me in my professional life and outside of it, I would say 3.1 as a whole has.

I exercise three times a week since starting 3.1, my approach to things has completely changed and I am driven to have what I want.

For me, Money and Women are the same. I'll explain what I mean.

For many men, money, like women, is elusive and often times there are several emotional associations regarding the lack of it and deservedness of having it.

When you can conquer one, I think the same emotional and mental alignments work for the other. Money is just another mistress waiting to be conquered and then ravished.
Nah Alan Roger Currie isn't PUA.
(04-06-2017, 01:34 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]B will drive you to a goal in the fastest way possible, and morph the world around you to model itself around executing that initial goal. That means different things to different people. Has B helped me in my professional life and outside of it, I would say 3.1 as a whole has.

I exercise three times a week since starting 3.1, my approach to things has completely changed and I am driven to have what I want.

For me, Money and Women are the same. I'll explain what I mean.

For many men, money, like women, is elusive and often times there are several emotional associations regarding the lack of it and deservedness of having it.

When you can conquer one, I think the same emotional and mental alignments work for the other. Money is just another mistress waiting to be conquered and then ravished.

I have had almost the exact opposite results as you. On 3.01, I was feeling really relaxed within myself, confident, and energized. I was going to the gym at least 5 days a week, working on my craft almost every day, and killing it at my high-pressure job without so much as breaking a sweat. I had cut almost all sugar and bad foods out of my diet, and was exceedingly healthy, while manifesting some clear interest from beautiful girls who were well 'out of my league' when executing.

Immediately upon switching to 3.1, I have lost almost all of that. I can't get up in the mornings. I waver from being horribly depressed and hopeless to borderling schizophrenic and unbalanced. I can't force myself to go to the gym, and when I do (less than once a week, now), I can barely muster the will/energy to do any form of real strenous or challenging exercise. I'm floundering/drowning at my job, I've been on the edge, insecure, anxious and confrontational with almost everyone in my life. There have been absolutely no signs of women from A. The only real manifestation I've experienced has been the acquisition of a new, "better" job--but that was still within the 21 days after I quit 3.01.

I also agree that money and women are "the same". On 3.01, I could feel the sub building me into the oscar-winning millionaire screenwriter artistic-godlike playboy that I've always dreamed of becoming. It, for the first time in my life, felt fully within reach.

3.1 has dissolved all of that growth/trust, and instead filled me with nothing but inner turmoil and true, honest doubt that I could ever become half of the man I dream of becoming, to attract both women and just general happiness into my life.

The reason I ask if B is giving you more success is because I personally sense that most people have had instant, noticeable results on B, whereas with me, personally, and also a lot of others, A has brought nothing but sorrow and wreckage. Perhaps, with additional time, this will eventually lead to newfound growth, but since a newer, better version of DMSI will be out within 2-3 months, I'm thinking that a switch to 3.1B, or perhaps going back to 3.01A, is a better course of action for me.

Sorry to derail the thread... but seeing as professional/financial success is intertwined with achieving sexual irresistibility like it is for me, I wanted to get your thoughts to see where I wanted to take mine.
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