Subliminal Talk

it seems there are a lot of Indians from what I have gathered here.

The aura already has disinhibiting effects. It may be that this is triggering more anxiety than the comfort it is designed to cause can handle.

(09-24-2016, 12:10 PM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]it seems there are a lot of Indians from what I have gathered here.

just 4, that i know of. maybe more lurking in the shadows. PRESENT URSELVES, DESIS!

i used a small dose of pheromones today and magically the attention was back on me. not to the extent that i am used to, but still it is noticeable enough to warrant reporting. note that i only used pheromones today to check the results, and i don't plan on using them regularly while testing 2.4. the attention wasn't as refined as i'm used to, though. something seemed off, and i think it's because the aura and phero sig might have thrown people off. but i wasn't a ghost today.

also one of the tinder girls responded (the one who has an awesome personality but OK physical appearance), and we're set up for tuesday night.

I have been wondering about the culture issue too. I'm one of two forum members (that i know of) who is living in China. The culture here makes most girls want to marry instead of have one night stands, plus i've never seen so many money hungry girls in my life. Many young beautiful girls will be with the oldest, fattest ugliest, boring men just because of the size of their bank account. Very normal here and happens more often than in the west.

The most likely place to find girls who are dtf is in clubs and i haven't been going enough lately.

I'll surely provide the details in cultural difference when I reach Houston.

I just learned today about most girls around here, something Leonidas had mentioned before, but just now started making sense. A lot of girls are entitled in many ways. If she is to give a guy the time of day, she expects some sort of gift given by him. I must say, when I first heard this concept, I didn't take it too seriously but when my friend today told me the same exact thing, it blew me away, as maybe there's more to it than I gave credit to. Anyway, I experienced the ghosting phenomena had actually lifted today. After I got back earlier, I washed the pheromones off before going back out on the town. So this experience is 2.4 only. Attention was increased.

I have a feeling autopilot is gonna kick on once I get to Houston. But I feel I can't be bothered approaching girls right now, for some reason. Might be tied into the IDGAF as was mentioned in a different journal. When I was on BASE, I was approaching girls with no problem with some simple stuff like asking for directions, asking the time, asking if they wanted me to take a group photo since they were struggling to take a selfie, etc... Now I just don't feel like it; I would rather chill with my friends.

I rmbr your sm3 journal was pretty inspiring. Hope this goes well also

(09-25-2016, 04:09 PM)Big Boss Wrote: [ -> ]I rmbr your sm3 journal was pretty inspiring. Hope this goes well also

hey thank you my friend, that's pretty cool to hear that you found it inspiring! quite a compliment, i must say.

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day 14?
"More will be revealed" is my current thoughts about this sub.

1) The sub might have some sort of build up effect. *
2) I think I caught autopilot in action, again.


1) I noticed that today, attention was increased. Especially increased while I was eating (white rice, with various curries. Typical south indian lunch) at a restaurant. I felt the inner Sexy Beast take over me. I started looking around the restaurant, catching eyes from approximately 20 feet away with a girl who was with her sister or friend. Eyes from other women too. So the ghosting veil has been lifted for 2 days so far.

2) I saw a meme that reminded me of my ex fiance, and I sent it to her, even though we hadn't talked to each other in a LONG time. She loved it, laughed, and said "good times..." I didn't respond to it tho. But the next day (today) she asks me how i'm doing, what's going on, etc. we exchange small banter. She says she just got married (arranged) in May. I ask curiously, if he is the same nationality as her (bangladeshi). She says no, he's a mix of 3 different nationalities. I say "you're lucky you got someone with the best of everything! Arabic and South asian!"

she says:
Awww [eternitys_child]
That's so sweet thank you
Marriage is no cakewalk though
lol it's very difficult
:/ too difficult at times

I say: BTW I don't expect marriage to be a cake walk, but didn't realize it was difficult. Did you meet the guy beforehand?

Her:
I met him once before but don't remember much of it. We met in march and got married in May.
It's difficult because we don't know each other at all
We are learning about each other every day, and it can get pretty tough.
I was never one for arranged marriages.

Me: Ya I know you aren't one for arranged marriage XD you are such a free spirit.

Her: I still am, or like to think I am!
I am working on that. feels like I lost myself

---there's way more to the conversation that i don't care to go into on this journal, but i extracted the important bits for the next point

The current version of me, after a year and a half of subs, knows this is basically a direct invitation to come give her what she's missing. (although you more experienced members are more than welcome to chime in on what you think, since i'm still a noob )

Why would I have been driven to message an ex of 6 years before, out of nowhere, when there hasn't been communication in at least a year? If it weren't for the interaction I had with her, I wouldn't have claimed autopilot was on. But it was because of the random urge to message her, plus the conversation that followed, which made me think autopilot is working. Now, if the sub would just guide me to women who aren't in committed relationships, that'd be great

*Over time, and through repeated exposures at the recommended daily 5 loops, the sub efficacy is gradually increased. Which is all fine and dandy. 14 days to start seeing external results? I'll take that. I'm used to approximately that speed from 5G. But the internal results came almost immediately.

Tomorrow I meet the tinder girl for a date at a punjabi restaurant. I will report back the results.

BTW I just wanted to mention, I saw 4k's post about sudden pains in his body, and thought I would mention mine too. I have this weird pain in my jaws (mostly left side). It started as a pressure in my left temple, but gradually became a pain in the bone. Weird. Not sure if it's even connected with DMSI. It'd be nice if the sub corrects my slight cross-bite, which is at basically the same location

If I cause the sub to attract single women, I get complaints that people have their freedoms curtailed. If I have it attract everyone, people want it to only attract single women.

(09-26-2016, 12:46 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If I cause the sub to attract single women, I get complaints that people have their freedoms curtailed. If I have it attract everyone, people want it to only attract single women.

I think he meant it in the sense of wanting to have a single woman show him this kind of interest now. Not a view on the program itself, lol.

Of course, attract everyone is best. Big net fishing for the win! Go big or go home, don't listen to haters, lol.

I'm not into breaking stuff up as many know, but it's the best way to SEE the program working, using the biggest net to catch as many as possible. Which is very important, especially during testing. And maybe down the road these girls will look us up when things end with their guys. I see it as win-win.

I don't think he's hating or complaining, but it's just frustrating that I can't do one thing and have everyone happy.

For the record, I indeed was neither complaining nor hating. Nor did I mean any sort of negativity by that. I was making a satirical comment because my experience the other day with the aura kicking into overdrive was in response to a close friend of mine who has been with her bf for 20 months. So the 2 most obvious signs the program is working is with 2 taken women, which I ironic, hence why I made the remark.

Hopefully Shannon, you do recognize all the praise I give for this program, and for IML and your work in general. from seeing positive results in 14 days, to having faith that you will accomplish what you say you are going to accomplish.

I understand it must be frustrating having people be insensitive to your work but I have been maximally aware of how I word my posts on this journal so as to ensure it provides you with constructive, usable data, rather than harmful, useless complaining.

We will get there, soon enough. You keep doing what you are doing, and we will keep testing and providing useful data for you. And anything else you need along the way (I posted my birth chart on the Astro thread so u can use it to cross reference my results with astrology), just let us know.

It is an honor to be among the group of reality bending humans

(09-26-2016, 01:16 PM)WIP68 Wrote: [ -> ][quote='eternitys_child' pid='133990'
[Now, if the sub would just guide me to women who aren't in committed relationships, that'd be great.

Just because she's married doesn't mean she in a committed relationship. It doesn't mean she's committed. I think her actions show her 'heart' isn't in the relationship fully. She did what traditon required of her but then shows tremendous disrespect to her new husband by contacting an ex?

As for the sub guiding you to your ex...Maybe it wasn't for sex, but instead it was for you to put that part of your life behind you, for closure sort of speak, so you can move forward. The relationship is done, she's married,and still thinks positively about you. Your self esteem is in tact, and even boosted a little. Your mind is clearer and you're free to move forward.....

Oh, and as for the jaw pain you're experiencing...I have that also intermittently.
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Good point about the healing aspect. I thought I had healed from this relationship long ago. But to be completely transparent to you guys and let you know the deep amount of healing I really do require, I will swallow my pride and tell you guys about the relationship.

We had a pregnancy scare in 2010 (Ya I busted a nut too quick ). One night I was in a drug induced blackout, and in the morning, she's walking funny and so I ask her what happened. She looked upset, and asked "you don't remember?" I said no. She then goes on to tell me that she asked me to punch her really hard in the gut, to ensure there is no baby in there. And then she says I did it.

That shit f*** me up for a long time, and in fact was a major contribution to my 5 year dry spell until the fruits of SM3 showed itself on December 31, 2015. I couldn't believe that I would do something like that with my own hands. I couldn't believe that the woman I loved and was engaged to would ask me to do such a thing. And I couldn't believe that I actually complied. Of course that was neither the beginning nor the end of my drug use, and it eventually chased her away. Literally, she ran away and went to some other dudes house, which f*** me up even more. She ended up in a relationship with him, with literally zero time between the end of ours.

That's just one of the sexual traumas I have gone through, therr are a couplemore... WIP, you very well might be right in that this is an example of healing, to put this behind me. Interesting that the IOI's appear the same day I sent her the message? Wow.

And for what it's worth, sure she's not in a committed relationship, she's kind of forced into it. But she does have a history of running from relationships! She did it with this he guy she left me for, too! Lol. Who's to say this won't be different...

You know, while we're in the subject, I always wondered... I fit the bad boy criteria, quite well actually. EXCEPT in the criteria of bad boy sexuality. I always used to wonder why the F*** my associates were banging girls almost daily, but I couldn't get any action to save my life. My social skills were pretty good at the time, especially while actively using drugs.... I could spit game like a champ. But once any sort of intimacy showed up, I locked up, froze, went dead silent, and things just got really awkward. I lost countless opportunities like that. Shit I even had a naked pool experience with a friend who was a high end escort and another chick who sold pussy for money. Both showed DISTINCT signs of attraction to me, but nothing happened. Sexual Trauma is a bitch. And that's why I'm 100% on board with the healing in DMSI. There are probably more than a few guys on here who've been sexually molested as a kid, traumatized in some way by rape, screwed over by women, emotionally, financially, the works.... and none of this shit is stuff we men like to admit affects us, let alone tell another human being it even happened. The healing is MUCH NEEDED. At least I believe so.

How, overall, has it (the healing in DMSI) affected you so far?