(01-13-2026, 05:32 AM)callie Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2026, 08:25 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not free to share how I deal with the trauma situation you describe because I don't really care to give my time, research funding and brain power away to my competitors. What I will say is, your model of how trauma works may or may not fully agree with mine, and I may or may not take into account factors you either don't, or havn't thought of.
Very early trauma is extremely challenging to work with, I'll agree with you on that. Communicating in a way that is effective with the involved parts, and then getting them to comprehend what has been communicated and cooperate, is very difficult. It is also limited because they typically do not have the awareness or understanding to do very much, in part because they are so emotional and or instinctual in nature, and in part because of their age-related awareness levels. It also doesn't help that they're usually blindly terrified.
But I have developed an approach for getting them to understand and work towards healing, and while it appears to have limitations in v1.0, I have learned enough from my testers that I can adjust most if not all of what I see needs to be adjusted.
My R&D on how to work with those parts is active and ongoing still.
I would be glad to discuss this in great detail with you, but I cannot do so without risking giving away information I had to pay for in time, brain power and money.
Fair enough. I was mostly curious about your underlying philosophy about this. But if that overlaps with you giving away information you dont want to share, I will undertand
That said, have you ever thought about whether very early or deeply traumatized parts might operate with such limited processing badnwith that communication or negotiation doesnt really land until a sense of safety is established first? In those states, doesnt it seem likely that the system may need repeated experiential signals of safety before those parts can begin to thaw from their frozen states?
Something like how a traumatized and abandoned dog learns safety and trust. First allowing proximity without demand then gradually increasing contact until closeness no longer automatically signals danger. I find myself unsure how that kind of safety can be demonstrated in the absence of an actual relational presence
My work so far stronglysuggests that the earliest parts are seriously restricted in their capacity for awareness and comprehension/interpretation/understanding of stimulus. Perhas we are talking about the same thing when you say limited bandwidth. Depending on the age at which the trauma was experienced, the "version" of you that "crystalized out" may have little to no ability to understand spoken communication beyond tone and other metacommunications.In many cases, these early crystalizations have only instinct and emotional awareness to use for their comprehension capacity, and the trauma is not always, but frequently, triggered by or made worse by a severe misunderstanding of or misinterpretation of what has actually transpired.
The cases I have worked with, they don't want to do the traumatized dog thing, they just want to hide from whatever makes them remember the trauma. That seems to be their entire focus: avoiding more trauma, while causing themselves more anxiety and or trauma by focusing on avoiding the trauma and experiencing more of what caused it, thus remembering it, which triggers the anxiety. In some personality types, it becomes an upward spiral of self traumatization and the person gets worse and worse over time.
One of the approaches I use is to interrupt any feedback loops and redirect them into healing and re-developing the neural pathways that they strengthened into alternate non-trauma associated neural pathways that are in a positive direction.
But the recorded "crystalization", in my model, is not physical. That is, in part, the memory that is interpreted in the way that results in the fear/guilt/shame becoming the repeated neural path that shapes the nervous system into a constant trauma response. Along with the "system status snapshot" that is the "self" at the time of trauma experience, which is also not physical - or not entirely physical - in my model.
To re-shape the traumatic nervous pathways is great, but if we do not also work with the crystalized part in adjusting it's awareness of and interpretattion of the cause of the trauma experience, the neural pathway just re-forms over time. This is the truly challenging part of the equation. How do we work with parts of your awareness associated with memories which are traumatic, to change the understanding of the event to become less traumatic and understood in a different way to allow the trauma associated neural pathways to be extinguished in favor of non-traumatic pathways, which do not regenerate because the awareness itself is not constantly reacting to the memory of the experience of trauma and the feelings it resulted in?
That is a very long sentence.
Anyway, I am working on this. I am making progress on this, as is evidenced by the results my girlfriend is getting. Her traumas resulted in a very young girl who had only instinctual and limited emotional awareness, completely misunderstanding parts of what happened to her, and being completely unable to deal with other parts of what she experienced. The progress she's made using PTSD Recovery Aid v1 is quite surprising, and I am very grateful, but there is more work to be done, and I am still working.
The issue is something I understand. But developing a solution that works for all traumas and all ages and all personality types is not a simple or fast thing. I can't really share with you exactly what I am working on for resolving this early trauma issue. But all evidence points to that I am making progress and going in the right direction. And v2 goals and adjustments are in development.
Recently, I found a source of worthwhile information regarding this topic which somewhat surprisingly agrees with my model, research and approach (did not expect that), and has offered me a number of ideas for extending it based on the research of others in the field. I'm currently reviewing that research and those ideas and approaches to see what of it is useful and what I can develop into PTSD Recovery Aid v2. The good news is, this will probably allow me to skip a version, and bring what would have been v3 in v2. The bad news is, this adds sufficient complexity to require multiple additional months to process and develop v2 now.
I am convinced that there is at least one way to work with these extremely early traumatized personality crystalizations and make definite progress in resolving their traumas and responses. The challenge is in not just communicating with them, but getting them to cooperate in spite of the trauma response, and getting them to do the right things when the cmmunication mode(s) available may be extremely basic.