Subliminal Talk

Hi Shannon,

Do you think OPH can help with healing sleep apnea?

(11-05-2025, 01:18 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]Hey @Shannon,

I was wondering.. After enough time with DMSI, if I don't execute, when should I jump off and go back to UMS?
If I'm working through my resistances, but leave it incomplete, then will that do me any good?

What has your experience been so far?

(11-05-2025, 05:37 PM)emiebou Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

Do you think OPH can help with healing sleep apnea?

Sleep apnea isn't a wound, and it isn't a condition that can be "healed" as far as I know.

(11-05-2025, 06:44 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-05-2025, 01:18 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]Hey @Shannon,

I was wondering.. After enough time with DMSI, if I don't execute, when should I jump off and go back to UMS?
If I'm working through my resistances, but leave it incomplete, then will that do me any good?

What has your experience been so far?

This is a perfect opportunity to state that I'd love to see more of you in my journal.
But I'm overall feeling more light and loose, but I just don't have that OOMPH that I've relied on to speak to new women.
A lot of the women at my gym look okay enough, and so I don't have that desire to meet them on any sexual level. And in the past, when I'd try to connect on an intellectual level, it'd just be awkward.

There are women at my gym who are good looking, but I'm attracted on a knowledge level; as in, I know that she looks good, I know that I'm drawn to her, I know that I should talk to her, but I really just don't feel like it.

That feels like a non-starter. Not getting any IOIs either; the obvious ones, anyways. And when I catch eyes with a woman, I just don't feel anything.

I've been doing the hardcore mode for about 3 months across the two latest versions.

(11-04-2025, 12:36 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-28-2025, 04:08 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]I will not be doing that, so the standard instructions it is.



Edit: also I wonder if there’s some kind of mix up here, because I thought we were talking about a EPHRA + OGSF hybrid with separate instructions for PTSD and non PTSD, not a standalone PTSD program. If it’s a program specifically for diagnosed PTSD then I probably won’t get it.

The two programs I'm about to publish are both EHPRA + OGSF, with an upgrade to FRM and some upgrades in ther directions.  They differ in that PTSD Recovery Aid is designed with some build time tweaks specifically to make it work better for people who are diagnosed with complex PTSD.  The other variany, which I don't have a name for just yet, does not have those special build time weaks, and does not have usage patternscalculated specifically for being as effective as possible for diagnosed Complex PTSD.  It will be aimed at people who may or may not have PTSD, but definitely don't have complex PTSD, and who want to gain the benefits of those two base programs being used in concert.

When you say “definitely don’t have complex ptsd” does that mean if someone has undiagnosed complex ptsd that they won’t be able to get value from that program? My situations a little weird since I think I probably had complex ptsd, but your programs have helped me heal a lot. I feel like if I go to a therapist they wouldn’t diagnose the current me with complex ptsd even though I may still have lingering trauma to work through, simply because I’m a lot better now.

It’s also a question of would the complex ptsd instructions even be better for me now that I’m some degree of recovered from it.

If you want to draw a hard line in the sand that you should be diagnosed before using certain instructions I understand. If you don’t think anyone who may have complex PTSD (to a lesser degree in my case most likely) should use the standard instructions, I’ll either go see a therapist and try to see what they think, or I’ll just use EPHRA and OGSF since those have served me well so far. I have my own reasons why I don’t want to see a therapist right now, but if it’s required to use the best stuff, then I may have to make the compromise.

thought id jump in for some updates..
Ive been a fan of X4A (what originally drawn me into this place) back in 1511g.
Obviously i then adopted X4A 1600
And then moved onto DMSI....
But after a monthish + of DMSI - i dont think I felt as much feedback as X4A
So now im back to X4A.... and feels much better...
I dunno - something about X4A that just feels nicer...

I like people giving me the positive attention... not that any of them led to any sex or anything

Reading the Glossary - i know theres a potential X4A 2000, or X4A next level number...
And I know Shannon also gatekeeped a powerful expensive limited edition thing some time ago..

I know we have now moved on since X4A - and now just catching up on upgrading the backlogs to 6g
Just me wishful thinking if i could inspire for the flagship X4A (flagship for me anyway) to be continue developed - to reach its full potential...

Wishing we can one day get the forbidden levels of X4A (Christmas present any chance? )
Why we withholding such power

@Shannon btw super interested in brain optimizer 6G. If you made that I’d buy it instantly as long as I had the funds.

Hi Shannon,

In my opinion EHPRA and OGSF aren't the solution to all types of intrusive thoughts neither mind healing.

I agree that some intrusive thoughts can be created by OCD (fear), and in fact, probably everyone who suffers from intrusive thoughts no matter the cause also suffers from OCD and therefore their condition gets worse.

So everyone who suffers from intrusive thoughts most likely has some level of OCD, but this is not necessarily the cause.

For example, a third of American football players have mental health issues and it's related to repeated head trauma (Chronic traumatic encephalopathy).

I don't think they will be healed by using E7 or OGSF because fear isn't the cause. It's a damaged brain.

You say OPH will do the job, and it might be the solution for American football players as the damage came from the external world, but I don't think it would be the solution when the damage is internal, created by high levels of stress, suppressed emotions or genetics.

I know I already mentioned this exercise a few times, but for example, one way I healed myself was and visualizing a balloon and repeating to myself "I can't make the balloon explode". Over time I managed to not make it explode at all.

I can know how good is the mental health of someone by the amount of time they can hold the balloon without making it explode. People who cannot hold it for a nanosecond, as it was my case, they are in trouble and it's always the case.

Turning back to the muscle metaphor, an old woman can fall and break one leg. You can heal the leg and the muscles of the leg. While she is technically healthy, she won't be able to walk again because her muscles lost all her strength while she was hospitalised.

Therefore OPH won't be the solution for this old woman. And in the same way, I guess that OPH or Brain Optimiser subliminal aren't enough.

If you could make someone hold the balloon in their mind without making it explode indefinitely (as I can now do) just by listening to OPH, EHPRA or OGSF, then that would prove (at least to me) that whole mind healing can be achieved only with those subliminals. But I beleive this is very unlikely.

Regarding OSC, when I had intrusive thoughts EHPRA (I guess it was 4G) as said it didn't help at all with this, only with the emotions. But for some reason OSC (ASC 5G) did help a bit. I'm not sure why.

I also believe OSC can be more healing than EHPRA in some situations.

Humans are the only animals that can project things into the future as much as we do. Happiness is in my opinion a positive subconscious projection of the future.

You mentioned in a post that depression comes from a belief of "impossible" or "hopeless", and those are projections of a future outcome that can't be achieved. In the same way, fear is also a negative projection of the future.

For example, someone can have an incredible life now, but he will go to jail in one week for a decade for a crime he didn't commit. He won't be happy. He could run E7 or OGSF to remove fears but that won't make him very happy.

But if he can run a subliminal that makes him excited to go to jail, because of all the time he will have to read, to do sports, to meditate, to think, to reflect, and that he will be a better man after it, then, he could feel some happiness even if he had to go to jail. OSC it's in my opinion more likely to generate those emotions.

Humans have automatic thought processes and bias, and as for example, in my case now, if a family member isn't going through a good moment, due to our emphatic brain, we can feel almost the same pain as the other person. 

Because confidence is a positive projection of the future, somehow OSC it is helping me a ton with that. I feel Everything will be fine. While only removing the fear of something negative happening into the future doesn't make me happy even if I don't have fear as I don't like the outcome. Therefore I don't think E7 could help as much as it's doing now OSC.

If E7 or OGSF had the OSC script in it, I would switch without blinking.

I know this was long and I apologize if it is too long but I made it as short as I could. I just wanted to share my thoughts hoping that they can help.

It's also very interesting what you said about the brain being the HQ of our awareness. Could you give more details on how the experiments were or some other details?

Not long ago I arrived at the same conclusion through a different thought process.

Some life existed before the brain was created. In fact, some living beings like plants don't have brains and they can communicate between them. Therefore, awareness existed somehow before a brain. Through evolution, a brain was slowly built around that awareness. That brain was sending emotions and sensations to the awareness to make it behave in the physical world in a way that could make the brain live longer. That must be a reason why probably no one in the universe would feel pain when the emotion of love touches his awareness, it might be something intrinsic to the universal awareness.

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 E7 +OGSF + OSC script. Damn Sam what a great combo. I'd love to see that one too!!
Great suggestion!!

@Shannon will Brain Optimizer 5.11G fix a person with ADD/ADHD ?

If not, can you make a program to do this?

(11-05-2025, 07:02 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-05-2025, 06:44 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]What has your experience been so far?

This is a perfect opportunity to state that I'd love to see more of you in my journal.
But I'm overall feeling more light and loose, but I just don't have that OOMPH that I've relied on to speak to new women.
A lot of the women at my gym look okay enough, and so I don't have that desire to meet them on any sexual level. And in the past, when I'd try to connect on an intellectual level, it'd just be awkward.

There are women at my gym who are good looking, but I'm attracted on a knowledge level; as in, I know that she looks good, I know that I'm drawn to her, I know that I should talk to her, but I really just don't feel like it.

That feels like a non-starter. Not getting any IOIs either; the obvious ones, anyways. And when I catch eyes with a woman, I just don't feel anything.

I've been doing the hardcore mode for about 3 months across the two latest versions.

  
You really shouldn't have to go talk to them if you're executing.  What would you rate these women on a scale of 1-10?  And have you noticed any difference for yourself between the two versions?

(11-11-2025, 12:32 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-05-2025, 07:02 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]This is a perfect opportunity to state that I'd love to see more of you in my journal.
But I'm overall feeling more light and loose, but I just don't have that OOMPH that I've relied on to speak to new women.
A lot of the women at my gym look okay enough, and so I don't have that desire to meet them on any sexual level. And in the past, when I'd try to connect on an intellectual level, it'd just be awkward.

There are women at my gym who are good looking, but I'm attracted on a knowledge level; as in, I know that she looks good, I know that I'm drawn to her, I know that I should talk to her, but I really just don't feel like it.

That feels like a non-starter. Not getting any IOIs either; the obvious ones, anyways. And when I catch eyes with a woman, I just don't feel anything.

I've been doing the hardcore mode for about 3 months across the two latest versions.

  
You really shouldn't have to go talk to them if you're executing.  What would you rate these women on a scale of 1-10?  And have you noticed any difference for yourself between the two versions?

About a 6 or 7/10 in some cases; there's one tonight that was better looking, but she was young enough where I second-guessed myself.
But still, it's not a primal, physical attraction; it's an intellectual attraction, like "yeah, she looks nice (but also sober-mindedly finding flaws)".
No real plan or intent if I were to go up and talk to one.
It's almost like I'm not giving myself permission to desire them. Very strange! And a massive departure from myself even 12-24 months ago.

@Shannon

I have some suggestions for AM7 that I think will be amazing.

Ultra success or winner’s mindset. An alpha male needs to have his “winner effect” active. It’s what switches on the brain and is a man’s fuel. You probably already have something in there for this, but thought I’d mention it just in case because it’s so essential.

Sort out your desires, goals, values, what you bring to the table, and who you are in your head so that you’re motivated, it’s easier to turn down things that don’t lead to becoming the person you want to be, and you know your value and who you are when interacting with people.



Hope things are going well for you and I wish all the convenience in the world for you.

Edit: also if you’re not taking suggestions right now please let us know.

Hey Shannon, I am letting my friend try subliminals but he can hear the ultrasonic like a high pitched ringing, he prescribes it as very annoying almost painful like tinnitus. I suggested he use the masked version do you agree? This is for osc 6g