Subliminal Talk

(01-03-2026, 03:13 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]PRA v2 (not due out any time soon, by the way) looks like it's going to have so many different titles in it that it will not be reasonable for me to keep that price point.

WTH ? Theres going to be another version of PRA as in PRA v2? Holy smokes Man! Many different titles in it? Huh? Stunned. I Know that will be awhile in coming forth, but dang.... what a program to be !!

I believe PRA has MAJOR potential.  I want to eventually achieve that potential.  But it's going to take a while, because PTSD is complex... pun intended.  

Version 1 works well, but Version 2 is going to be aimed at dealing with the most challenging cases of PTSD.

I've run LTUv6 for one run through. Would doing another run through be more beneficial than running stage 7?

@Shannon

(01-04-2026, 12:13 PM)Sky Wrote: [ -> ]I've run LTUv6 for one run through. Would doing another run through be more beneficial than running stage 7?

@Shannon

Have you run Stage 7 as part of that run-through?

If you're asking that question, it's a good bet that doing another whole set run-through would be beneficial.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid270830

Shannon Wrote:I am currently in the process of optimizing the Master Key Script for AM7.

This process is not going to be fast, because this script is very long and not exactly very simple. I've already finished parts of it in the past, so that will help. But it's going to be a slog.

Once this is done, I can generate stage scripts from this master script and then begin building each stage.

That's what I'm working on right now, and MLS will be published soon.

(01-04-2026, 03:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-04-2026, 12:13 PM)Sky Wrote: [ -> ]I've run LTUv6 for one run through. Would doing another run through be more beneficial than running stage 7?

@Shannon

Have you run Stage 7 as part of that run-through?

If you're asking that question, it's a good bet that doing another whole set run-through would be beneficial.

I did run stage 7 as part of that run-through when I first ran it. 

I am torn between running MLS 6G or LTUv6  as a re-run. I'm waiting for the MLS 6G description to come out because I want to learn to program for work better. I need to get better professionally to make more money.

(01-01-2026, 02:42 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-31-2025, 11:35 PM)ArmarageX Wrote: [ -> ]Zomg its X4A 2600!

(Checking in this forum first thing in new year - was wondering - what was that Christmas surprise Shannon said was coming....? - but - havent checked forum since ages)

(Cuz when Shannon was sick and doesnt speak - forum was less interesting for a while ahaha)

Sorry about that.  I've been over the sickness for a while now, but my girlfriend demanded that I take a break for the holidays, and then after that I started doing some experiments that have been really REALLY interesting.  Been focused on developing that, building new experimentals based on preliminary results, trying to find ways to test them and working on understanding what I am seeing them accomplish.  I have to identify exactly what is doing what here yet, but the results I am getting so far suggest something important has happened.  It could be two different things, and depending on which one it is, it would mean something completely different.  I have enough data points going in the same direction now to be confident this is statistically significant, and now I'm going to try to figure out which of the two possible explanations we are dealing with.

Quote:Hope your'e feeling better @Shannon . Just want to thank you for an updated X4A..

You deserve a cheer on this - seeing that the fourm hasnt cheered much yet on it...

Maybe everyones off on holidays (like how i was away until now) - and only realised the new release now...

Appreciate you for hearing my old pleas - i dont know if others were plea-ing - but i was definitely a plea-er for more X4A

And i feel heard.. Love X4A. Appreciate you for revisiting and upgrading the script - knowing 1600 was released not far ago...

Excited to start rocking it!

Thank you for that.  The forum does tend to get quiet when I am away.  And I am noticing that most people don't report their results much, if at all, anymore.  The number of people reporting on here vs our customer base and repeat customer base is a very big difference.

I suspect it's downstream of the pep talk last year about not discussing what one might be manifesting.

(01-04-2026, 04:07 PM)Sky Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-04-2026, 03:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Have you run Stage 7 as part of that run-through?

If you're asking that question, it's a good bet that doing another whole set run-through would be beneficial.

I did run stage 7 as part of that run-through when I first ran it. 

I am torn between running MLS 6G or LTUv6  as a re-run. I'm waiting for the MLS 6G description to come out because I want to learn to program for work better. I need to get better professionally to make more money.

Here's a quick rundown:

MLS 6G NFRM is a direct upgrade and optimization of the script of the previous version of MLS 5.75.4G, plus script upgrade to 6G standards and extensive optimizations, plus the addition of Bain Optimizer. NFRM means it does not have the fear removal module. I am contemplating making a version that does.

(01-05-2026, 02:15 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-04-2026, 04:07 PM)Sky Wrote: [ -> ]I did run stage 7 as part of that run-through when I first ran it. 

I am torn between running MLS 6G or LTUv6  as a re-run. I'm waiting for the MLS 6G description to come out because I want to learn to program for work better. I need to get better professionally to make more money.

Here's a quick rundown:

MLS 6G NFRM is a direct upgrade and optimization of the script of the previous version of MLS 5.75.4G, plus script upgrade to 6G standards and extensive optimizations, plus the addition of Bain Optimizer.  NFRM means it does not have the fear removal module.  I am contemplating making a version that does.

When are you planning to come out with it? I'm highly considering buying it. I don't know if I need FRM or not though. How much longer would it take for you to come out with FRM in it? Would it make a huge difference?

The better I can learn how to code in python for data analytics and learn statistics will help me get a better job.

Shannon, I’m stonewalling UMS 6g. I’ve gone from a relatively high motivation to absolutely zero motivation. I’m spending all of my time in leisure with no motivation to think about finances. Previously I was thinking and learning about economy and finance, and I was building a business using AI, but it has all disappeared. I’m currently in phase 3 of my second run. How should I address it?

I see two options:
1. Keep going.
2. Keep going but change volume/loops/format.

What should I do?

(01-05-2026, 07:35 PM)ffaux Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, I’m stonewalling UMS 6g. I’ve gone from a relatively high motivation to absolutely zero motivation. I’m spending all of my time in leisure with no motivation to think about finances. Previously I was thinking and learning about economy and finance, and I was building a business using AI, but it has all disappeared. I’m currently in phase 3 of my second run. How should I address it?

I see two options:
1. Keep going.
2. Keep going but change volume/loops/format.

What should I do?

I'm where you are. In my case, there's been a lot of internal work around money and success that's been happening. Nothing external around acquiring money and financial success. I don't even have a plan for trying to get there.

My plan is to keep going. Given the scope of the goals of UMS, I'm not surprised that it may take more time to manifest full results. There also seems to be something in the external environment that is "putting things on hold", and not just around money.

(01-01-2026, 02:48 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-26-2025, 02:04 AM)dragonslayer Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon, how are you?

I started my 1st run of EHRPA Experimental+DRS 6G on September 14th up to November 22nd, which was rough for my MDD, but good for OCD because the majority of my compulsions were virtually eliminated through exposure therapy. Full disclaimer: I've been on CBT therapy and I'm not giving medical advice to anyone. 

I didn't intend to run EHRPA+DRS for the OCD, but mainly for my MDD.

I took a two week break for EHRPA+DRS to bloom, and I experienced more MDD spikes due to circumstances.

I started my 2nd EHRPA+DRS run on December 7th. 

Just this week I'm experiencing things are getting better emotionally, which I also attribute to the DRS, but there's still lots of improvement.

And I'm kind of bored now lol. 

I don't know if it's resistance, but since logging here for the first time in a couple of months and just seeing posts now on MLS 6G and the newly released X4A-2600 6G, I'm thinking of switching to either X4A-2600 6G for some light fun lol, but deep down inside I know it's not good for my goals. 

And for this reason, I'm also thinking of either buying or subscribing to Ultra Success 5.11G to help me start the new year off in the right path.

I don't know what to do. What do you think? 

I know that the Ultra Success can help me with my career/financial goals so that it's not affecting me and my family.

When is the MLS 6G going to be released? 

Will Ultra Success be updated in 6G soon too?

I think that after EHRPA+DRS, I want to run Ultra Success and get the career part of my life handled since the EHRPA+DRS has been dealing with the bottlenecks.

I don't know. I think I'm just talking to myself also lol.

Let's go EHRPA+DRS 6G! Yeah!

If you have Major Depressive Disorder, I would think that you'd want to find a solution to that.  At this time, the best option for that will be PTSD Recovery Aid, using the CPTSD instructions.  EHPRA + DRS `6G is a good choice, but you're not going to get results if you aren't using it.  If you stop using it, I suggest you go back and do another run-through after a month off if you don't want to get PRA v1.

I don't know how you would expect to get results from something like X4A-2600 or US 5.11G if you are dealing with MDD.  But I suppose boredom isn't hel;ping.

MLS 6G will be released in January 2026.  Ultra Success will be updated sometime after AM7 gets finished.  AM7 is my next focus.

Hi @Shannon , I started my 2nd Run of EHPRA + DRS 6G on December 7, 2025 and I'm still using it.

Ultra Success was on my mind because I read the USLM description page that you built USLM when you were depressed to help you build better subs.

So my rationale is if you used Ultra Success with LM during your past depression, then the latest Ultra Success with a revamped script would help me get through my MDD to go after my goals.

But I can stick with EHPRA + DRS now until this 2nd Run is done in a month since my depression score is now lower compared to before per my therapist. 

I do find EHPRA + DRS working, especially the DRS.

My mentioning X4A-2600 is a sign of resistance that I now know is a distraction from my priority, therefore, I'm not getting it.

If I want to run another PTSDRA run right after my current one, should I take a 1-2 week break, or just keep going like normal?

Hi Shannon,

I have two questions and would really appreciate your guidance when you have a moment.

https://subliminal-shop.com/collections/...ss-v3-1-6g

Instructions say for - Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 Stage 1 of 4 (6G)

Run stages 1, 2 and 3 for as close as possible to one month of whole usage cycles.  Then run Stage 4 for 3 months of whole usage cycles.  This is one full run-through.  If after one run-through you have not yet achieved your definition of ultimate monetary success, you may choose to go for another run-through."


Question 1 – Clarification on Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 (6G) Stages

I recently re-read the instructions for Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 – Stage 1 of 4 (6G),
and I just want to make sure I fully understand the correct way to use it.

Here’s what I’ve done so far:
Around July 1, 2025, I started Stage 1 and ran it for about one month
Around August 1, I moved on to Stage 2
September was Stage 3
October was Stage 4
So in total, I completed Stages 1 through 4 over roughly four months. After that, I took a break during November and December. Now, I’m planning to restart Stage 1 around January 2026.

My question is: Did I follow the stages correctly, or should it be done differently?

The reason I’m unsure is because the instructions say:
“Run stages 1, 2 and 3 for as close as possible to one month of whole usage cycles. Then run Stage 4 for 3 months of whole usage cycles. This is one full run-through.”

If that’s the case, then one full run-through would be about six months total, rather than four. I just want to confirm whether my understanding is correct and make sure I’m using the program as intended before starting again.

Because is sound like
each stage get one month of listening but only stage 4 get 3 months of listening... is that what  is instructed?



Question 2 – CM (5.11G Type A/B/C/D) and Use for a Child

https://subliminal-shop.com/products/cm-...ed3b&_ss=r

Q: Can this experience be used to help parents calm children down, deal with anxiety or or put them to sleep?

A: The design of the script allows it to be effective for children as well as adults, although how young it will affect is not certain.  However, child-specific settings have not been calculated, so you may need to experiment.  Those tests that have been done with children have done show that children may be affected by very different settings than are ideal for adults, and the effects may require consideration of the child's personality.  Also remember that for children, more is not necessarily better.  So it can be used to help children also, but exactly how it should be used to do so isn't certain yet.  If you would like to try to use it for your children, start off with the settings specified for the intended use, and then assess whether it is effective while they are exposed or possibly after it finishes playing and starts blooming (purely executing, instead of the input-decode-process-execute cycle that will be going on while it is playing).  From there you can make adjustments.  If there is enough need for it, we will calculate specific usage patterns for children.  Let us know on the forum how it affects your children, and if you think child-specific usage patterns are necessary.


I also had a question regarding the CM (5.11G – Type A/B/C/D) program.

I noticed in the FAQ that this program can potentially be used with children, and I was hoping you could check with Shannon to see if it might be appropriate for my situation.

I have a 6-year-old son. He speaks English very well, understands conversations easily, and is very sharp. At the beginning of the school year (around August 2025), there was an incident during the first week of school where he and another student accidentally got locked inside a boys’ restroom. They were stuck for about 15 minutes until a teacher came and opened the door.

While it may have seemed like a small incident at the time, since then he has developed a strong fear of being alone or being locked in. For example:
He wants the shower door left open while he showers
He gets anxious if a car door is closed while he’s inside waiting
He panics if he wakes up and doesn’t immediately see us nearby
etc... etc... etc

This fear has been quite challenging for him (and for us), and I’m wondering if this program might help with anxiety related to that experience.
Would it be okay to try this program with him in a very gentle way—for example, turning it on at bedtime and listening together until he falls asleep, just to see if it helps?

If CM isn’t recommended for this situation, are there any other programs that are more suitable for children and could help with anxiety or fear stemming from an experience like this? Or any other resources you might suggest?

Thank you so much for your time and help, I truly appreciate it .

Thank You,

(01-07-2026, 03:18 PM)Openhorizon Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

I have two questions and would really appreciate your guidance when you have a moment.

https://subliminal-shop.com/collections/...ss-v3-1-6g

Instructions say for - Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 Stage 1 of 4 (6G)

Run stages 1, 2 and 3 for as close as possible to one month of whole usage cycles.  Then run Stage 4 for 3 months of whole usage cycles.  This is one full run-through.  If after one run-through you have not yet achieved your definition of ultimate monetary success, you may choose to go for another run-through."


Question 1 – Clarification on Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 (6G) Stages

I recently re-read the instructions for Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 – Stage 1 of 4 (6G),
and I just want to make sure I fully understand the correct way to use it.

Here’s what I’ve done so far:
Around July 1, 2025, I started Stage 1 and ran it for about one month
Around August 1, I moved on to Stage 2
September was Stage 3
October was Stage 4
So in total, I completed Stages 1 through 4 over roughly four months. After that, I took a break during November and December. Now, I’m planning to restart Stage 1 around January 2026.

My question is: Did I follow the stages correctly, or should it be done differently?

The reason I’m unsure is because the instructions say:
“Run stages 1, 2 and 3 for as close as possible to one month of whole usage cycles. Then run Stage 4 for 3 months of whole usage cycles. This is one full run-through.”

If that’s the case, then one full run-through would be about six months total, rather than four. I just want to confirm whether my understanding is correct and make sure I’m using the program as intended before starting again.

Because is sound like
each stage get one month of listening but only stage 4 get 3 months of listening... is that what  is instructed?

The updated instructions under 'UMS 3.1 Stage 4' and for the full program should say to run Stage 4 for as close to one month as possible.  The instructions used to say under 'UMS 3.1 Stage 1' to run Stage 4 for three months, but were changed when Shannon actually developed Stage 4.