Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol.9

[Shannon]

My approach is not to define PTSD or CPTSD within the script, but create a generalized framework within which both can be approached and helped, with the differentiating factor being usage patterns in Version 1. Version 2 will be designed more specifically for CPTSD.



The design of PRA v1 is aimed at being able to work with any level of trauma at any level of awareness within  the brain/mind interface.  However, I concur that working with such early traumas is very challenging, as the awarenesses in play are verylimited in their perceptual and comprehensive capacity and awareness.  They tend to be purely emotional and instinctual in nature, the balance and focus being dependent on personality type.  



My girlfriend has traumas from 0-5 years old and then others from later.  She reports that she is getting results from PRA v1, although as expected, progress is slow, since the program is going at the pace she can handle.  But I have seen dramatic improvement in how she handles frustration and stressors since she started using this program.



Hope this helps.



V2 is going to be much more comprehensive and much more intricately detailed in what it does and can do, and how it approaches the process of trauma healing.

Alright



One thing I still struggle to understand and would like your input on is very early developmental trauma, specifically with abandonment involved. In these cases the body and mind never learned self-regulation, and there often isnt a clear “pre-trauma self” to return to, as there usually is with single event PTSD. When these layers open up, the profound hopelessness and terror can be extremely destabilizing



Early developmental trauma is formed in a relational context and is often said to be healed in relations. You mentioned that your girlfriend is reporting results from PRA, which makes me wonder whether that may be related to her having consistent relational safety and support from you. But for people who dont have any of that kind of consistent support, how do you see this working in practice?



This type of trauma tends to make it extremely difficult to form consistent relational support due to a pervasive sense of unsafety with others, which complicates the healing process and creates a kind of catch 22 for those that dont have it int he first place

I'm not free to share how I deal with the trauma situation you describe because I don't really care to give my time, research funding and brain power away to my competitors.  What I will say is, your model of how trauma works may or may not fully agree with mine, and I may or may not take into account factors you either don't, or havn't thought of.

Very early trauma is extremely challenging to work with, I'll agree with you on that.  Communicating in a way that is effective with the involved parts, and then getting them to comprehend what has been communicated and cooperate, is very difficult.  It is also limited because they typically do not have the awareness or understanding to do very much, in part because they are so emotional and or instinctual in nature, and in part because of their age-related awareness levels.  It also doesn't help that they're usually blindly terrified.

But I have developed an approach for getting them to understand and work towards healing, and while it appears to have limitations in v1.0, I have learned enough from my testers that I can adjust most if not all of what I see needs to be adjusted.

My R&D on how to work with those parts is active and ongoing still.

I would be glad to discuss this in great detail with you, but I cannot do so without risking giving away information I had to pay for in time, brain power and money.

[Shannon]

It's because it was already retired and I'm only making it available on a whim.  There's no reason to make it available anymore.  Who wanted it has bought it.

Too bad. I imagined I'd run it one day. The talk at the time was that you had to be "ready" for it.

Time waits for no man.  You did have to be ready for it.  But it is not intended to be available all the time.  No Premium subliminal is.

[Shannon]

Alright, so on stage 3 of Run #2 and you're reaching a point of shutdown.  It is best under those conditions - for anyone experiencing this while using Ultrasonic format - to do the following to break through it:

1.  Switch to Hybrid format.
2. Change your volume to 7/15 (Android) or 8/16 (iPhone), through the cell phone's speakers, and within arm's reach.  For Android phones with more or less than 15 clicks of volume or other phones with a different number of clicks of volume, your volume goals here is as close as you can get the volume to 47% of maximum volume.

Thanks Shannon. Should I continue using hybrid for future stages and runs, or should I switch back to ultrasonic with stage 4?

I adjusted the instructions for all four staghes and the set.  You use the "break through" instructions for that stage, and then go back to normal instructions.  Only use the break through instructions if and when needed.

[Shannon]

I will put it up for a short period of time to allow for anyone who currently wishes to purchase to do so.  But this is probably going to be the final time that it is available for purchase.



Itis live.  For a short period of time.  Anyone wants to buy it, get it now... because it's going away forever soon.

Are you planning on remaking Maverick in 6G at some point? I'm on the fence about the 5.9G version due to the 1600$ price tag. I know the program is more than worth it, I'm just worried it'll get rebuilt in a year or 2.

There will eventually be a 6G Maverick.  I decided that a week or two ago.  But when?  No idea. 2 months? 3? 6? 9? 12?  More?  No idea.

[Shannon]

Agreed. And the sexiness training is a welcome addition. I'm really looking forward to its release.

 Yeah this is gonna be a very powerful AM7 program. damn Sam , really powerful.  8 levels including zero.... how much? A half a Million $'s.
My guess is 5,000$. or more. Yeah I know its Bold to say that ,this early on ,but that "Guess" is not entirely out of the question.

It will be the standard 6G price of $650/stage or $74.97 per month to subscribe.  That comes out to $4,550 for stages 1 through 7 and $5,200 for all 8 stages, including Stage 0.

It will be the price of 1 stage off if you buy the set at once, but I'm not sure I am going to be offering it set-at-once because of the price and because of the issues with people buying or subscribing to one stage and then deciding they want to buy the set, which throws things off on the back end.

But I think I remember that loyal customers of Version 6 who bought the whole set (stage at a time or all at once, the whole set) and didn't get a refund get something off their purchase of v7. That might change things a bit.

[Frosted]

Are you planning on remaking Maverick in 6G at some point? I'm on the fence about the 5.9G version due to the 1600$ price tag. I know the program is more than worth it, I'm just worried it'll get rebuilt in a year or 2.

There will eventually be a 6G Maverick.  I decided that a week or two ago.  But when?  No idea. 2 months? 3? 6? 9? 12?  More?  No idea.

Okay thank you for the transparency, I appreciate your approach to business. I'll hold off on purchasing for now, since it would be awhile before I could run it anyways. I'm super excited for the 6G Maverick! It's neck and neck with AM7 for my most anticipated 6G title!

[NOMAD]

But I think I remember that loyal customers of Version 6 who bought the whole set (stage at a time or all at once, the whole set) and didn't get a refund get something off their purchase of v7. That might change things a bit.

Correct.  You've offered a 50% discount to those who purchased AM7 at full price and never requested a refund. Here's the latest post on that topic that I was able to find. 

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid212408


The context here is that the user purchased AM6 at a discount and thought he'd receive 50% off that discount. You corrected that.

[Shannon]

But I think I remember that loyal customers of Version 6 who bought the whole set (stage at a time or all at once, the whole set) and didn't get a refund get something off their purchase of v7. That might change things a bit.

Correct.  You've offered a 50% discount to those who purchased AM7 at full price and never requested a refund. Here's the latest post on that topic that I was able to find. 

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid212408


The context here is that the user purchased AM6 at a discount and thought he'd receive 50% off that discount. You corrected that.

You mean AM6. 

[4Kingdoms]

Maximum Learning Speed (No Fear Removal Module) 6G is now available.

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Released on 1/12/2026
Maximum Learning Speed (NFRM) 6G
https://subliminal-shop.com/products/max...ed-nfrm-6g

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The Fear Removal Module has been removed in this variant.  Some people do not need the Fear Removal Module, and others do better with a more gentle and indirect fear removal approach.  This variant of Maximum Learning Speed (NFRM - No Fear Removal Module) leaves it out, allowing the Optimus Engine technology to find solutions for fear instead if and where that is necessary.

The Directional Reflection Shield has been removed in this version.  For those who wish to use a personal energy shield, this program allows for you to choose any of our 6th Gen personal energy shields to use alongside it, but does not include a shield on it's own for those who don't need it.

The entire script of Brain Optimizer v2 has been added to this program.  This title works to optimize your brain for health, blood flow, oxygen levels, glucose levels, chemistry balance, activity and wiring.  It adjusts your synaptic connections and neuronal densities to optimize your brain function, as well as improving hemipsheric interactivity.  This makes learning faster and easier at the physical brain level.  This also makes MLS v5 in 6G two programs in one, for the price of one - an absolute steal.

[Shannon]

Maverick has been taken down for the final time. Maverick version 1.0 now goes in The Vault. Those who own a copy, have a collector's item.

It is likely that I will not be free to work on v2 for at least the next 6-9 months.

[Bayern2]

@Shannon On the instructions for MLS for the volume, both Android and iPhone has "?" out of 15 or 16 for the volume.

"For users of Android phones with 15 total possible clicks of volume, play it at a volume of ? out of 15 clicks on your cell phone, through the speakers of the cell phone, within arm's reach.

For iPhone users, who have a total of 16 possible clicks of volume to work with, use it at a volume of ? out of 16 clicks on your cell phone, through the speakers of the cell phone, within arm's reach."

[Shannon]

@Shannon On the instructions for MLS for the volume, both Android and iPhone has "?" out of 15 or 16 for the volume.

"For users of Android phones with 15 total possible clicks of volume, play it at a volume of ? out of 15 clicks on your cell phone, through the speakers of the cell phone, within arm's reach.

For iPhone users, who have a total of 16 possible clicks of volume to work with, use it at a volume of ? out of 16 clicks on your cell phone, through the speakers of the cell phone, within arm's reach."

Apologies.  It's been difficult to work on this one with all the distractions.  It felt like I had missed something.

That has been corrected and is now updated.  Thank you for the heads up.

[Hangman]

@Shannon

Can you shed some light on MLS 6G Goal no. 54?
What’s the difference between two approaches?

[callie]

Alright

One thing I still struggle to understand and would like your input on is very early developmental trauma, specifically with abandonment involved. In these cases the body and mind never learned self-regulation, and there often isnt a clear “pre-trauma self” to return to, as there usually is with single event PTSD. When these layers open up, the profound hopelessness and terror can be extremely destabilizing

Early developmental trauma is formed in a relational context and is often said to be healed in relations. You mentioned that your girlfriend is reporting results from PRA, which makes me wonder whether that may be related to her having consistent relational safety and support from you. But for people who dont have any of that kind of consistent support, how do you see this working in practice?

This type of trauma tends to make it extremely difficult to form consistent relational support due to a pervasive sense of unsafety with others, which complicates the healing process and creates a kind of catch 22 for those that dont have it int he first place

I'm not free to share how I deal with the trauma situation you describe because I don't really care to give my time, research funding and brain power away to my competitors.  What I will say is, your model of how trauma works may or may not fully agree with mine, and I may or may not take into account factors you either don't, or havn't thought of.

Very early trauma is extremely challenging to work with, I'll agree with you on that.  Communicating in a way that is effective with the involved parts, and then getting them to comprehend what has been communicated and cooperate, is very difficult.  It is also limited because they typically do not have the awareness or understanding to do very much, in part because they are so emotional and or instinctual in nature, and in part because of their age-related awareness levels.  It also doesn't help that they're usually blindly terrified.

But I have developed an approach for getting them to understand and work towards healing, and while it appears to have limitations in v1.0, I have learned enough from my testers that I can adjust most if not all of what I see needs to be adjusted.

My R&D on how to work with those parts is active and ongoing still.

I would be glad to discuss this in great detail with you, but I cannot do so without risking giving away information I had to pay for in time, brain power and money.

Fair enough. I was mostly curious about your underlying philosophy about this. But if that overlaps with you giving away information you dont want to share, I will undertand

That said, have you ever thought about whether very early or deeply traumatized parts might operate with such limited processing badnwith that communication or negotiation doesnt really land until a sense of safety is established first? In those states, doesnt it seem likely that the system may need repeated experiential signals of safety before those parts can begin to thaw from their frozen states?

Something like how a traumatized and abandoned dog learns safety and trust. First allowing proximity without demand then gradually increasing contact until closeness no longer automatically signals danger. I find myself unsure how that kind of safety can be demonstrated in the absence of an actual relational presence