12-07-2025, 01:16 AM
I mean it's only been a couple months since DMSI 6G has been out. Why are we assuming everyone's stonwalling? Give it some time to clear things out. You're not going to overcome your hangups in a couple months.

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| v5.0 - Neutral | 7 | 41.18% | |
| v5.0 - Negative | 1 | 5.88% | |
| v5.0 - Very negative | 1 | 5.88% | |
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12-07-2025, 01:16 AM
I mean it's only been a couple months since DMSI 6G has been out. Why are we assuming everyone's stonwalling? Give it some time to clear things out. You're not going to overcome your hangups in a couple months.
12-07-2025, 02:37 AM
(12-07-2025, 01:16 AM)Frosted Wrote: I mean it's only been a couple months since DMSI 6G has been out. Why are we assuming everyone's stonwalling? Give it some time to clear things out. You're not going to overcome your hangups in a couple months. Haha yea spot on exactly man. If we based the conclusion only using the poll, it means there are only two person using DMSI 5.1, me and one more person, and that tells nothing. I'm not active on the forum but I believe there are lots of people like me who just buy or stream or use the subs and not journaling. If it works, then it's my secret weapon. If it's not, better luck next time. I own some of the 5.xG subs here and not everything is works for me, some just complete waste of money, I even asked for a refund but not eligible. Do I escalate the problem? Nope. I use UMS for years and it works wonders for me, so it is what it is. DMSI 5.1? Positive experience for me. Way better thab Optimum Self Confidence in every way.
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12-07-2025, 08:25 AM
(12-06-2025, 12:09 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote:(12-06-2025, 04:52 AM)StridingStrider Wrote: I didn't, no. I was hoping with enough usage the FRM would break through. Lmfao "mountain-dwellers"
12-07-2025, 06:44 PM
Well the point has been brought up that we have only been doing this for a couple months, and that is a valid point... but the counterpoint is that for those who execute, it starts working within a day or two, and maintains results or escalates.
I think what we're looking at is... we need to do a combination of with and without FRM, varying them, so that FRM is not just hammering all the time. I think that we're having an overkill response because some mof you guys need to take a break and work incrementally. That would suggest we need a version without FRM in it to alternate with. Alternate usage patterns may work, but of that is the issue, then the FRM will still be present, and still may be triggering overload responses. At that point, I hate to say it, but I am leaning toward building a variant without FRM and then having you guys either use that or alternate between the two.
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12-11-2025, 10:06 AM
Hi Shannon,
Do you foresee having updated usage patterns over the next couple of days? I'll be rolling over into the next month in about 3 days, and I would prefer to return to UMS if there are no changes to DMSI. I would come back to DMSI once I'm through with another cycle of UMS.
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12-11-2025, 11:07 AM
(12-07-2025, 06:44 PM)Shannon Wrote: At that point, I hate to say it, but I am leaning toward building a variant without FRM and then having you guys either use that or alternate between the two. I would buy this.
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12-12-2025, 09:38 PM
I haven't read through all the posts, but I thought I'd offer a couple of thoughts.
1. When I was single I noticed that I got laid more when my libido was in high gear. If I didn't masturbate, I found that I was more likely to put myself in situations that set me up for sex. This might be an important consideration script-wise. 2. I'm married. But even now, I still fear women that I desire. Why? I think it has to do with feeling like I'm relinquishing my sovereignty. I won't get into details, but I noticed this today with a very sexy woman that I desire. I believe she desires me as well. And it scares me...not from the standpoint of infidelity, but from the standpoint that I genuinely desire her and that she holds some level of power over me BECAUSE I desire her. I would never be unfaithful to my wife, but the fact that this woman has that level of impact on me scares the absolute shit out of me. I don't know if DMSI could be scripted to address these issues, but I thought I'd offer some thoughts. Another possibility to consider is making DMSI a two stage sub and using the PTSD-RA script as the backbone of stage 1.
12-13-2025, 09:34 AM
(12-11-2025, 10:06 AM)Ampersnd Wrote: Hi Shannon, I'm just finishing the build of the Christmas Surprise. Need to calculate usage patterns on that and then I need to get going on MLS. What you're asking for may happen later or next month. Or I will just rebuild DMSI without FRM, if that shows as a way to solve the problem.
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12-13-2025, 09:35 AM
(12-12-2025, 09:38 PM)NOMAD Wrote: I haven't read through all the posts, but I thought I'd offer a couple of thoughts. DMSI 1ith FRM is working on that problem. Adding in PTSD Recovery Aid makes no sense when you can (and should) run that separately if you think you need it. You cannot deal with that sort of thing (PTSD) while running DMSI's script at the same time and have either of them work.
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12-13-2025, 09:36 AM
(12-13-2025, 09:35 AM)Shannon Wrote:(12-12-2025, 09:38 PM)NOMAD Wrote: I haven't read through all the posts, but I thought I'd offer a couple of thoughts.
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12-13-2025, 09:38 AM
Dweller, I'd really love to hear about what you experienced to report "Very Negative" experiences.
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12-16-2025, 12:13 AM
Is there anyone who switched the listening formats with DMSI 5.0?
12-18-2025, 04:23 AM
(12-13-2025, 09:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: Dweller, I'd really love to hear about what you experienced to report "Very Negative" experiences. Was meant to put neutral, my apologies, if you can remove my vote I'll pop it in again. Nothing to report from the DMSI end, positive results from the auric shield end. If it gets released again without FRM I'll give it another month's run but until then money magnet.
So, I have been using 5.1 streaming, the hybrid format of the 35-minute format (hard case), for the last 1.5 months, and this is what I am experiencing: some mild attention from good-looking girls occasionally, and I had one lay with a not-so-attractive girl. She said even before we met, she was getting wet by listening to my voice. And she also commented on how her bed smelled of me the next day, and she was late to work because she didn't want to get out of bed. This was all ego-boosting for me in hindsight, but she isn't particularly attractive, so I didn't really pay attention at that particular moment.
My issue is that I seem to be attracting the same quality of girls. Most of the matching is happening on apps, where the ratio is absolutely terrible. For historical context, DMSI has worked for me in the past and led to my very first non-monogamy situation. It was a great situation, but even then, it was with very average-looking girls. What do I need to change to make this work on good-looking girls? PS: I skipped hypersonic as it's very hard to know when it's actually playing, especially in streaming mode. |
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