What has your experience of DMSI v5.x been so far?

[Ampersnd]

I'm also curious about StridingStrider's experience, but I have a very similar one. I want to know what changes to the usage patterns I would need to actually shift the results being experienced.

Not feeling drawn to women. Not approaching. Not drawing their attention. Not having anything out of the usual.

Are you saying you experience nothing you can see in terms of effect from this program at all?

No, not particularly anything when it comes to effects.
Last week, I did have a much older woman - that I had felt a connection with - reach out, out of the blue and invite me out for drinks. Her 47, me 33. I have a brief anecdote on that topic, but it's somewhat unrelated.

But with women I see at the gym - that would otherwise pull at my gut/heart and tear me up just by looking at them - I just don't feel "it", or much of anything. No real desire to speak to them. And there have been no strange events as a result of running DMSI.

[Shannon]

Are you saying you experience nothing you can see in terms of effect from this program at all?

No, not particularly anything when it comes to effects.
Last week, I did have a much older woman - that I had felt a connection with - reach out, out of the blue and invite me out for drinks. Her 47, me 33. I have a brief anecdote on that topic, but it's somewhat unrelated.

But with women I see at the gym - that would otherwise pull at my gut/heart and tear me up just by looking at them - I just don't feel "it", or much of anything. No real desire to speak to them. And there have been no strange events as a result of running DMSI.

What that tells me is that for women you're genuinely attracted to, you're self sabotaging by shutting down your own attraction response... and for women who you're not particularly attracted to, you don't, so they respond.  Does that sound about right?

[Ampersnd]

No, not particularly anything when it comes to effects.
Last week, I did have a much older woman - that I had felt a connection with - reach out, out of the blue and invite me out for drinks. Her 47, me 33. I have a brief anecdote on that topic, but it's somewhat unrelated.

But with women I see at the gym - that would otherwise pull at my gut/heart and tear me up just by looking at them - I just don't feel "it", or much of anything. No real desire to speak to them. And there have been no strange events as a result of running DMSI.

What that tells me is that for women you're genuinely attracted to, you're self sabotaging by shutting down your own attraction response... and for women who you're not particularly attracted to, you don't, so they respond.  Does that sound about right?

Your analysis maps on, but I don't 100% relate to it. I don't know what to make of my results. Prior to this subliminal, I used to feel my own attraction quite strongly to the women I viewed as hottest, and would often act on it. Now, not much of anything.
Does my conscious awareness of my own patterns, or resistances, inform whether I should be changing my usage patterns?
I would rather avoid continuing this flaccid response to DMSI if I can help it.

[HMoody]

@Shannon - Thought I would report as well on my run. I just completed three months and am in the bloom period for version 5.0. I ran the hard case scenario as I had not had any luck on previous versions. While I'm not inexperienced I haven't really had a lot of success with women getting to sex. Initially it seemed to be working in the sense that I started working out again and then updating my appearance to look as good as possible. Weirdly instead of focusing on women though I found myself more focused on making money and business related things. That lasted maybe the first 1-1.5 months. I did go out and socialize multiple times but did not see any actual reactions in the real world as related to women. On one occasion I interacted with a woman in my social circle who I knew had a crush on me who I found attractive but It did not seem to snipe her as I did not see an improved reaction or change in behaviour as I would have expected based on running DMSI. The last 1.5 months it seemed like nothing was happening at all. The focus on working out and money and business died down as well. It seemed like my subconscious was stonewalling the last part of the run. 

What would you suggest would be the next step to getting this to work? Can you recommend a usage pattern that might work better? I'm currently doing the bloom for another week and am thinking of running OSC for a bit before maybe taking another stab at DMSI 5.0 again.

[Sir Ovaltine Jenkins III]

I haven’t personally used this program yet, so I can’t really contribute on that front but from a lot of the reactions I’m seeing, it seems like stonewalling is still a pretty big issue for a lot of people (which means it likely would be for me if I used it right now too haha). 

Im wondering if, even though this program already has a fear removal module, it might be best to use either PRA or OSFG at least one full run through if not multiple in order to process and let go of the various fears, shame and guilt that seem to be lurking in the shadows and stopping many of the users from being able to execute properly. 

That’s just my two cents, but it might be worth a shot to try this for anyone who seems to be having trouble.

[Shannon]

What that tells me is that for women you're genuinely attracted to, you're self sabotaging by shutting down your own attraction response... and for women who you're not particularly attracted to, you don't, so they respond.  Does that sound about right?

Your analysis maps on, but I don't 100% relate to it. I don't know what to make of my results. Prior to this subliminal, I used to feel my own attraction quite strongly to the women I viewed as hottest, and would often act on it. Now, not much of anything.
Does my conscious awareness of my own patterns, or resistances, inform whether I should be changing my usage patterns?
I would rather avoid continuing this flaccid response to DMSI if I can help it.

I'm contemplating a couple of options right now.

[Shannon]

@Shannon - Thought I would report as well on my run. I just completed three months and am in the bloom period for version 5.0. I ran the hard case scenario as I had not had any luck on previous versions. While I'm not inexperienced I haven't really had a lot of success with women getting to sex. Initially it seemed to be working in the sense that I started working out again and then updating my appearance to look as good as possible. Weirdly instead of focusing on women though I found myself more focused on making money and business related things. That lasted maybe the first 1-1.5 months. I did go out and socialize multiple times but did not see any actual reactions in the real world as related to women. On one occasion I interacted with a woman in my social circle who I knew had a crush on me who I found attractive but It did not seem to snipe her as I did not see an improved reaction or change in behaviour as I would have expected based on running DMSI. The last 1.5 months it seemed like nothing was happening at all. The focus on working out and money and business died down as well. It seemed like my subconscious was stonewalling the last part of the run. 

What would you suggest would be the next step to getting this to work? Can you recommend a usage pattern that might work better? I'm currently doing the bloom for another week and am thinking of running OSC for a bit before maybe taking another stab at DMSI 5.0 again.

I'm currently contemplating a couple of options.  I'll get nback to you on this.

[Shannon]

I haven’t personally used this program yet, so I can’t really contribute on that front but from a lot of the reactions I’m seeing, it seems like stonewalling is still a pretty big issue for a lot of people (which means it likely would be for me if I used it right now too haha). 



Im wondering if, even though this program already has a fear removal module, it might be best to use either PRA or OSFG at least one full run through if not multiple in order to process and let go of the various fears, shame and guilt that seem to be lurking in the shadows and stopping many of the users from being able to execute properly. 



That’s just my two cents, but it might be worth a shot to try this for anyone who seems to be having trouble.

I'm really surprised at this, that stonewalling and shuttingm down attraction are still possible as a response to this program.

It appears there's really only three things I can do:
1. Make a version without FRM, and see if that helps;
2. Change how you guys are using it, or 
3. Just give up.  I'm not keen on this one, but I am beyond sick and tired of trying to figure out this resistance.  People aren't reporting and helping me understand what's going on.  That said, there's a few new tricks up my sleeve recently.

What do you guys think?

[MagicalAlchemist]

I don't use DMSI v5. But from the patterns I've observed, I experience more resistance when executing subliminals that have FRM (OF, EHPRA, DMSI 3.3.2). However, it works very well when I use subliminals without FRM (DRS, OSC 6G, DMSI 3.5).

I am still using DMSI 3.5 at the time of writing.

[LionKing]

I ran the 2 hour version for 3 months, with another 2 hours of DRS. My goals were mostly fear removal, social boost, and some good feels if it worked. I cannot do more than 20-30 minutes per day with the US format now, so I used headphones at night.

Initially, I seem to remember I had some seductive feels. But the biggest effect in the end was that I got very much on point and motivated in my strength training and got on a successful little diet. Looking much better with my shirt off now. But female attention, really little. Possibilities for that were also very little but the few times I was about in public, I didn't see anything. At the gym, nothing too overt but I wasn't invisible either. I would've rated myself fairly high on the sexy scale, so that kind of confidence went up, I think. Facebook has been sending me friend suggestions for some nice women when it didn't before (I don't ever use the platform). But I think its algorithm is now kicked in to try to find any remote hottie to send my way.

I'll mention those limiters from the description. I'm not sure if I understand what they do exactly but if they're really strict then I suppose the limiters (and thus the program) don't work if Shannon gets the reactions he reported because he is also in a relationship? So perhaps the program (its limiters) can be executed with the outcome that there no results towards sex or sexual action? Another part is that the females need to be really attractive for the user - maybe the bar is raised too much during the program, or there is just no one tha hot around.

About formats, I think I started with hybrid for one month. Went somewhat well, had morning wood often, maybe dreams. Then used masked for the next month but I felt it did nothing: dreams and morning wood disappeared. Then back to hybrid again and I got my dreams and boners back. I think I (carefully) tried US with headphones also before getting back to hybrid but didn't notice a difference. I know the instructions and I take responsibility for my own usage and time, please just take this as a data point.

I'm on my first break from PRA now (US track from phone's speakers). Differences noted: I'm now more calm and less anxious, the fire driving to strength training is not there as much anymore, horniness went up and I became quite interested in some videos online.

I still somehow liked running DMSI - maybe I'll try it with the short listening time again. At least for exercising it was great, and I think it helped with social confidence. Stress and anxiety, not so much.

[StridingStrider]

I know I haven't been around for a while, but did you ask for help on the forum?

I didn't, no. I was hoping with enough usage the FRM would break through.

It sounds like the response from your subconscious was total shutdown and stonewalling.  Would you say that's accurate?

Yes. I believe subconscious fear is the problem. It's like, it would start off working, but as soon as things start happening subconscious fear jumps in as is like "nope". I tried various H&C programs to try and resolve that issue but it never really get's resolved.

I believe you are an outlier, but that doesn't mean 6G can't get through.  It more likely means you just need a different set of usage patterns, or that you need to focus on clearing something before DMSI will work for you.

Tell me more details about your DMSI journey as a whole, and the last run vs this v5.x run.  Let's see if we can find a way to make this work for you.

Initially, as TID, from 3.5 to v5 I was getting some more online traffic, with girls saying "hello handsome" but it died off quickly, and the girls were very flaky as soon we matched and started talking, like, a couple messages flaky, unmatching soon after.

Older versions, I noticed manifestation online and off. I remember a co-worker who displayed some of that "crotch" presentation while I was sat with her. I also noticed another co-worker who was interested in me where we connected on an almost spiritual-dream level which was very sexual. Online I was getting more matches then usual. It didn't lead anywhere, and the girls were of questionable quality, but it was nice. Forgive me if I don't remember the version, there were quite a few back then. Also, a lot of sex dreams, which felt good because I knew the program was working.

For 3.5 specifically I noticed the manifestations died off online with it working better IRL but nothing substantial.

Hope this helps.

[Ampersnd]

Your analysis maps on, but I don't 100% relate to it. I don't know what to make of my results. Prior to this subliminal, I used to feel my own attraction quite strongly to the women I viewed as hottest, and would often act on it. Now, not much of anything.
Does my conscious awareness of my own patterns, or resistances, inform whether I should be changing my usage patterns?
I would rather avoid continuing this flaccid response to DMSI if I can help it.

I'm contemplating a couple of options right now.

Please do let me know when you reach an answer.

[HMoody]

I haven’t personally used this program yet, so I can’t really contribute on that front but from a lot of the reactions I’m seeing, it seems like stonewalling is still a pretty big issue for a lot of people (which means it likely would be for me if I used it right now too haha). 



Im wondering if, even though this program already has a fear removal module, it might be best to use either PRA or OSFG at least one full run through if not multiple in order to process and let go of the various fears, shame and guilt that seem to be lurking in the shadows and stopping many of the users from being able to execute properly. 



That’s just my two cents, but it might be worth a shot to try this for anyone who seems to be having trouble.

I'm really surprised at this, that stonewalling and shuttingm down attraction are still possible as a response to this program.

It appears there's really only three things I can do:
1. Make a version without FRM, and see if that helps;
2. Change how you guys are using it, or 
3. Just give up.  I'm not keen on this one, but I am beyond sick and tired of trying to figure out this resistance.  People aren't reporting and helping me understand what's going on.  That said, there's a few new tricks up my sleeve recently.

What do you guys think?

Based on my experience I'm thinking if the first step should be to change the usage patterns and see if that works. Would using hybrid or masked make sense for those of us that at least partially stonewalled the program or would hybrid be overkill? I only used ultrasonic the whole time as directed. 

I was also thinking of experimenting and going back to 3.5 as I haven't had a chance to run that one and if I recall it doesn't have FRM in it so it could be a good comparison maybe on the FRM front. However that is without the newest tech you have in 6G.

My vote would be to try different usage patterns or formats first if you can direct us on that.

[Zeroxmachina]

I know I haven't been around for a while, but did you ask for help on the forum?

I didn't, no. I was hoping with enough usage the FRM would break through.

It sounds like the response from your subconscious was total shutdown and stonewalling.  Would you say that's accurate?

Yes. I believe subconscious fear is the problem. It's like, it would start off working, but as soon as things start happening subconscious fear jumps in as is like "nope". I tried various H&C programs to try and resolve that issue but it never really get's resolved.

I believe you are an outlier, but that doesn't mean 6G can't get through.  It more likely means you just need a different set of usage patterns, or that you need to focus on clearing something before DMSI will work for you.

Tell me more details about your DMSI journey as a whole, and the last run vs this v5.x run.  Let's see if we can find a way to make this work for you.

Initially, as TID, from 3.5 to v5 I was getting some more online traffic, with girls saying "hello handsome" but it died off quickly, and the girls were very flaky as soon we matched and started talking, like, a couple messages flaky, unmatching soon after.

Older versions, I noticed manifestation online and off. I remember a co-worker who displayed some of that "crotch" presentation while I was sat with her. I also noticed another co-worker who was interested in me where we connected on an almost spiritual-dream level which was very sexual. Online I was getting more matches then usual. It didn't lead anywhere, and the girls were of questionable quality, but it was nice. Forgive me if I don't remember the version, there were quite a few back then. Also, a lot of sex dreams, which felt good because I knew the program was working.

For 3.5 specifically I noticed the manifestations died off online with it working better IRL but nothing substantial.

Hope this helps.

"the girls were of questionable quality"

Indubitably, some of the earlier versions had all sorts of mountain-dwellers coming up out the sewers lmfao, I sometimes wondered if the anti-sniper took a backseat to bringing you something over nothing. However, if you stay on I will say you will always eventually get to the goal with for example, 2.5., even if it takes a few months.