02-09-2018, 05:24 PM
(02-09-2018, 04:16 PM)Benjamin Wrote:Quote:I think about this and how people keep saying , "Well there's more important things than sex in a relationship".
Why do I feel like the people who say this are either women who are trying to manipulate men with sex or men who aren't getting any? Funny isn't it.
Yes sex isn't the ONLY thing.. but it's a pretty important thing to me and a good relationship can't function without good sex.
Yep, you pointed out 2 types of people who make that argument though I have different reasons why they do this. The type of men I hear this argument from are usually men in relationships who ,as you say, aren't getting any. Honestly, I think they do this in a defensive way. They don't want to admit their relationship isn't meeting their desires so they throw that argument out there. They probably don't want to put any blame on this on the woman either because they probably been indoctrinated with the whole "the woman is always right" garbage.
For the women I think they use this often as, you say, a manipulation tactic but also as a shaming tactic as well. I see it mainly as a way that they don't have to fulfill any of their partners desires in the relationship. Lets face it pretty much the idea of Person B in the relationship expecting person A to uphold all their responsibilities and obligations but when it comes time for person B to uphold their side they either renegade or give in as less as possible. A guy who isn't a cuck would just realize whats going on and totally leave the dealing table totally but you have too many men who would stay thinking if they only "keep giving more" the other person on the other side of the table will start up holding their end. Of course when they bring the subject up and she uses that shaming language they automatically feel ashamed for their own desires and don't do anything more about it. Kind of stupid in my opinion, especially since I've seen guys figuratively walk away from the table and the woman soon actually starts want to start fulfilling what he desires in the relationship.
Like you I think I've realized that my desires are just as valid and reasonable in such a relationship and if your one of those women who want to keep on taking but never given in return. That you think your mere presence in the relationship is good enough, guess what? There's the door and don't let it hit you on the way out. I kind of new this to be true for a while but to fully embrace it took a while. I think this is probably because growing up I had a blue pilled step father who did the exact thing you should not do above and this literally got to the point where he was sleeping on the couch every night and probably only got sex like once or twice a year for several years. Despite this he still kept on coming back to the table thinking something would change. That sooner or later my mother would realize all the work hes done for the family and she would realize the error of her ways. -snort- wishful thinking honestly.
"I have no use of disciples. Let everyone be their own true follower" - Nietzsche