Tarot thread

[JackOfHearts]

Also lastly each suit need the other to balance it out, you can't make someone a successful entrepreneur without any "heart" which is emotional fulfillment or "rest" otherwise he will burn out. For working hard you need some strong Spade after a working hard session you need some rest which is "heart" (joy,love, food etc) the water element, then you also need some "clubs" which is communication, social environment same as the "air element", then you need some Diamond which are resources and skills, the earth element. In a person will find a dominant element but too much of a thing is not a good thing. Each element interact with each other, the more balance there is the better. You can't become a good entrepreneur or be good at making money if you only have diamond. Also the health of each element or card is important, too much planets in a card often create problems unless they are friend with each other. If you have rahu Sun Saturn in a card it's going to be a struggle to have that card behave in a healthy manner. In this example you would see the fulfillment strengths displaying shame for the Sun and Saturn which is the results of this combination.

[JackOfHearts]

So I made my first Tarot reading with Determined:

I’m going to detail the more obvious to me. What’s struck me more and seems to pop out more often is the 8 number. If you watch the video, 8 is the state after the Ego has died in the 7 position. So it’s a spiritual lesson that you learn after the ego has died, the ego can be your body or something you have lost that you cherished. That’s where the spiritual lesson comes from as you learn that the ego is not important. The more someone learn that the ego is perishable (something you shouldn’t place your hope in) the more freedom someone have. You seem to be very spiritually inclined, your Jupiter is well placed which means you are open to those spiritual lessons and the death of the ego.
You also have a lot of planets in a king card, the king of spade, you have mars, Venus, Saturn and Rahu there. All those planets are fighting against each other which means that this “kingly” position isn’t something you have manage to handle yet, it’s a difficult position for you as rahu is there. Since it’s a spade you are working on your personality a lot, which probably explain your interest for this tarot reading. Spade is number 1, so it’s about you, it makes people focus on themselves, since you are inclined spirituality with those 8 numbers and an exalted Jupiter it means you are going to work on yourself in a spiritual manner, what’s come to mind is what they call commonly a transcendent alpha on this forum. The number 2 of spade could mean you are doing it more passively than actively, I see a lot of feminine influence in your cards but at the same time also some active masculine influence. I would say maybe you are using your feminine energy to build upon your masculine side. That could be because your masculine side is hurt. King can be interpreted as number 3 and I see a lot of struggle due to that, 3 isn’t an easy number, it’s the fight for territory in this case as it’s related to Mars the 3rd planet which is your soul planet (self planet). That planet is exalted (most powerful state) but it’s also hurt by Saturn and Rahu influence shaming it. You can see that in the fulfillment strength at the bottom left corner.
In my opinion your should keep using that Jupiter Strength to move forward and spiritualize that King position, which is probably what you are going to do naturally as your current main period is indicated by this Sun card with the 8 of heart, your Sun is also placed in the Jupiter card. Jupiter is your most powerful planet, and is the planet that guide the strength of mars with wisdom, that Jupiter is saving you from getting super angry or frustrated I would say.

[JackOfHearts]

From pm:

I just read the thread. You mentioned your GF spread. Couldn't help but notice ours was the same (2 of spade card and lots of planets in the king card)

You said "But that's about it, she isn't going to run for presidency because she has a lot of planets in a king card."

What does that mean about leadership and having planets in the King card?

Also what are the starved and shamed aspect?

Shame is the results of too much planet in the same card (explained with simple term).
In this case it's Rahu and Saturn shaming Mars. Starvation is a lesser difficulty than Shame.
Fortunately Mars is exalted which is mentioned as "Proud" so it means it has more strength to fight back. It will still be a struggle but a lot less. Which is why you are probably falling back on your Jupiter for wisdom as Mars is attacked so not as easily used.
My GF has a lot of shamed planets and harder than your chart (more shame), also she doesn't have this strong Jupiter you have, which is probably why she never listen to my advice (lack of wisdom).
So using that King card effectively is pretty unlikely for her, so presidency isn't likely.

You can see the King card as the Struggle in Games of thrones, it's a fight for ruling territory. In real life it can be ruling a house, a company, being independent or spiritually ruling your body, your psychology, a transcendent Alpha.
You can see the 3 or King card as applying leadership and seeing the consequence,(criticism). When you rule a kingdom there is always someone who isn't happy that's why the 3rd or King card is a though position. But when it's a spiritual fight like for a transcendent Alpha it's easier.

Forgot to say: it's also fun at least to me, the struggle of kings, it's tough but it's fun too, it's like adrenaline, it's scaring but most people want to see more, that's why Games of thrones is so popular. Queen and 2 are great for love and security like the 4 too but when it's boring you come back in the 3 or King and create a war just because you got bored.

[Determined]

Yeah, had a quick read by Alpha360. It checks out. Alot of it's spot on, especially with my long term planning.

Questions:
How can I use my "Jupiter Strength"?
How to "spiritualise my King position"

Thanks

[JackOfHearts]

Since it's strong you are using it automatically. You asking for advice with tarot is you using your Jupiter. I would bet if your Jupiter was wrongly placed you would have said, I don't agree with the report, this isn't me, I'm not like that or something close to that depending on the other placements in the chart. Most people with a weak Jupiter don't even believe in tarot or astrology or anything esoteric or a religious belief of God, they don't even check even if presented with repeated evidence that there is more to life than concrete reality.

There is a few member here who have a weak Jupiter they have witnessed time and time on this forum with Shannon and other stuff that there is more to life than concrete reality but they still don't pay any attention to it. They are wired like that.

My brother is like that, he has seen it all with me and my dad but still don't pay attention to it. He has seen proof with me, but it's like he not even registering in his mind. He is just not interested at all by any benefit he could get from it.

Maybe you will tend to get angry with that Mars, and if it is the case think about the bigger picture of life with Jupiter which is wisdom. Everything has a purpose ultimately so you getting angry certainly has purpose, you suffering due to that Mars wrongly placed certainly has a purpose. It's obvious and you know it, A strong Jupiter knows it inside themselves, it's their internal hope, their joy that keep them going forward even if the concrete hardcore life sucks.

How to "spiritualise my King position"

You have to "kill the ego", it doesn't happen over night of course but the more you realize the ego is bringing you down the more you feel like a "transcendent Alpha"
There several kind of king, normal king suffer from deception related to concrete reality, a spiritualized King doesn't suffer from what's happening concretely. It doesn't mean he doesn't acknowledge reality either though.
It has to come from the realization that the ego, our life, our body, our lovers, our friends body will die at some point, it's natural.
If someone attach himself to life, to his body, to his lover, to his success, to his wealth, to his beauty, to his friends or what ever that bring success which is the 6 position at some point all that go away. So if you don't see the bigger picture after the 7 (death) then you will suffer more.

The number from 1 to 10 happens constantly on different levels, there is the big death of the body at 7 but there is a lot of little death happening all the times as we pass through those number. Let's say you get attach to your girl friend, you love her and say that it will last for ever and ever , you enjoy her a lot , that's the 6 position which is called "little fulfillment" , one day she leave you, you lost something you loved, that a 7 position, if you don't believe the ego is important you don't suffer as much from that. If you believe the ego is important you will curse life and say it's unfair , some people don't get over it because they are attached to their little life on earth too much, there is too much attachment to the body. Nothing last on this earth, that's concrete reality. Real happiness that last for ever happen only on a spiritual level.

I'm using a GF as an example but it can be a family, a friend, a country, a dog, your computer, your forum, your job, anything that bring you genuine fulfillment on this earth.

[JackOfHearts]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Cla4O...sp=sharing

Here is something that portray well that Diamond are not only money.
Tesla is a Six of Diamond, also in his spread there is 3 other diamond, making diamond his dominant suit. 6 is quiet interesting here too as it can be interpreted as the "highest efficiency" you can have on earth, and since one of Diamond attribute is skills when you combine both you have "Highest efficiency of skills".

He also have the Ace of Diamond, making him aware of skill, the Queen of diamond making him connect with his skill (coming together)
Also his past life, his ketu card is a 3 of Clubs, another powerful card, it's one of the most powerful 3 card as Club is a "3" card in itself. That 3 of clubs give him a powerful creative mind.

[Adrien Silva]

what do you need to do a reading?

[JackOfHearts]

Birth certificate moke:

Just kidding I need birthtime, birthday, birthplace.
It's a little bit less time sensitive than astrology as for the time I only need to know if it's before sunrise or after.
But accurate birthtime add a little bit of detail, for the ascendant placement. But it's not needed for the birthcard reading, it's a layer of detail on top.

[dweller94]

Birth certificate moke:

Just kidding I need birthtime, birthday, birthplace.
It's a little bit less time sensitive than astrology as for the time I only need to know if it's before sunrise or after.
But accurate birthtime add a little bit of detail, for the ascendant placement. But it's not needed for the birthcard reading, it's a layer of detail on top.

You going to do mine for me

[JackOfHearts]

I will, I need to quench my thirst for knowledge first.

[JackOfHearts]

A fascinating thing everyone can do:
Everyday draw a card from a 52 normal playing deck card. This card will represent how your day is going to be, or how it was if your day is over.
Yesterday I tried it for the 1st time, I drew a 2 of heart. That day I had friends calling and talking to me, that night an old friend called me. That 2 of heart was spot on as it represent coming together with someone, sharing love, sex, a feeling or friendship in that case.
During our conversation on the phone I drew another card and asked that this card represent the friend I'm talking with. I drew a 9 of heart which is his birthcard (born 24 November) I got his exact birthcard out of 52 card, can this be a coincidence?

I didn't expect to get his exact birthcard :angel:

[JackOfHearts]

Here's an explanation of each birth card.

https://thecardsoflife.com/birthday-chart/

I checked this website, there is some good stuff in it but sometimes it's completely off.

[JackOfHearts]

I drew a card yesterday: a King of spade came out. This card was supposed to represent how my day would be like. And it did. It wasn't obvious but that theme of King of spade was there.
So that day I found myself doing the dishes, I never do that as it's not my job. But this time I naturally went for it, I did it. This was me doing the work of another person to help them.
Then I got a call from a friend he wanted to play poker, but I didn't intend to play that day. I wanted to listen to my course and then go buy a something in town. So this was a little sacrifice. So I played poker with my friends.
Then the day was almost over 8pm, I was about to listen to my course again when I got a call from a friend. He was in town only this week and wanted to party with me.
So again another little sacrifice, I didn't want to go but did it anyway as he is rarely in town, he lives far away from me.

So through out that day there was this theme of sacrifice, I wasn't able to do what I wanted, almost like a king with responsibilities, which is one thing the king of spade represent.

Also when we were playing poker, at the start each person draw 1 card and the one getting the strongest card play first.
I think symbolically (not by strength) this first card each person draw represent how this poker game is going to turn for them. I drew a 4 of diamond, this card represent financial stability in this context. I was the only to get a diamond card and it's a good diamond card.
Through out that game I always had a least a comfortable amount of money to play. And at the end I was the one who earn the most money, it wasn't a lot as the card described but it was a decent amount of money which is exactly what this card describe in this context. Also this card represent skills and I was able to trap others quiet effectively.
My brother drew a King of heart, it was the strongest card but symbolically it meant quiet the opposite, he lost some money. Most would think a King is a good card but you don't want that card. The King is actually one of the most spiritual card. It represents the 3rd sets of numbers, the 7,8 and 9, all those numbers are spiritually oriented and involve sacrifice of the ego.

[Adrien Silva]

this is a very interesting thread