Tarot thread

[JackOfHearts]

I just drew another 8 of heart.
I drew it around midday so I know the first part of my day wasn't me being influenced by the card I drew the morning (self fulfilling prophecy)
So that morning I woke up with a very satisfying dream, sexually satisfying It's rare I have a dream so satisfying and it wasn't about a girl actually or a boy, it's like there wasn't even male or female in the process.
I can't explain it but the feeling match the description of the 8 of heart.
Which is feeling at peace, inner balance of emotion, which aren't the result of an external thing but that you are balanced internally.
I felt that way this morning and even my dad complimented me which he never does usually as he is trying to work on himself.
Also today I tried to eat a lot less to feel more at peace with my digestion, to feel the least discomfort possible.

Out the 8 of heart story, there is a thing I'm working on. I noticed that when I eat too much at launch all the afternoon I can't help myself but to keep eating. And the more bloated my stomach is the more I keep it that way by eating again. It's like a downward spiral, I feel bad because I ate too much (it's a little discomfort mind you) and I want to eat again to feel good but the feeling doesn't last. It's like alcohol actually or cigarette, it's more subtle but the principle is the same. With alcohol you feel good after drinking but after a bit of time the feeling goes down and you drink again to keep the feeling up but the more you drink the more the good feeling go faster in the downward direction.
Same with food and the worst the type of food you are eating the faster that downward spiral go. But even with the healthiest type of food there is still a minimum of discomfort, a very subtle one but still there.
I feel the best the morning when I have nothing in my stomach

[JackOfHearts]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Cla4O...sp=sharing

Maybe this would some to see that Shannon isn't lying when he says he is in a bad period.
On my Card software for his 44 year Shannon got his Sun and Mars Shamed in the Sun Card. This shame should be felt particularly for around 2 month after his birthday (because the beginning of the year is our birthday). His Sun is very good in his birth spread so I'm sure he can get over it.
But what it means is that he is in bad period. The Sun is our ability to confidently do our job, to follow our path in life. When it's shamed it is hard to so, there is a theme of failure when that happen.
The fact that his Mars is also shamed during that period also means that his ability to get things done isn't at his best either as Mars is our ability to get things done.
Curiously he said to wait until March. Before March all the cards are in Clubs which isn't best to get things done, it's mainly talking and thinking ideas or being social. After March all the cards are Diamonds, which is good to get things done.

In my first post I also talked about his 44 year in case you missed it.

[DarkPlouf]

What's the thing with Saturn and Karma actually ?
Are those associated with Saturn in a way or another screwed since the start ?

I was going through an old book about mantras and found an interesting part about working with mantras to soften planetary karma. "Especially from saturn" it said. The author advised to work with mantras for the specific planet we struggle the most with.
And I thought about your thread Alpha.

So, what's the deal with Saturn anyway ?

[JackOfHearts]

Saturn is the karma planet yes, it's makes us see reality as reality.

I talked extensively about Saturn on the astrology thread.

Usually most old book, especially books wrote in the dark age tend to see Saturn as the most devilish planet. Satan and what not.

But Saturn is actually a very good planet like every planet it represents an aspect of God.

Saturn is associated with the 7 card in Tarot, as it's the seventh planet.

Usually the strongest your Saturn is the easier you will handle the harsh reality of the world. Bad Saturn gives big ego and inability to deal with failure, hardship, criticism.
Usually everything that is slow and hard is ruled by Saturn. Saturn gives perseverance. I think a good example of someone with a very good Saturn is the movie with Dicaprio "The Revenant" That guy if he existed had to have a very powerful Saturn to want to survive all those things he endured (A good Saturn gives the ability to deal with harsh cold weather by the way)

That's why that book recommended mantra for Saturn, It's actually a very good recommendation. It boost Saturn strength, remove some layer of the ego, so makes life easier to handle.

[DarkPlouf]

Thanks for clarifying. But I'm still confused, is Saturn actually the cause of a harsh reality in one's life ?

I always wanted to work with planetary energies. What would happen after repeated andeavors with a given planet ? Will I embody the platenary energy and witness some transformation ?
I mean, will someone working repeatedly with Mars improve its masculinity ?

[JackOfHearts]

You should witness a transformation but it's a slow process, it doesn't happen overnight.
I didn't experiment that much with planetary energy yet.

Mars is not masculinity though, Sun is. Mars is usually associated with masculine but it's not pure masculine energy. The Sun is 100% Masculine and the Moon is 100% Feminine.

Look for Ryan Kurzack video on youtube, he works a lot with planetary energy. He even has a complete course on his website about it. I think at some point I will do it.

[DarkPlouf]

You should witness a transformation but it's a slow process, it doesn't happen overnight.

Obviously.

Mars is not masculinity though, Sun is. Mars is usually associated with masculine but it's not pure masculine energy. The Sun is 100% Masculine and the Moon is 100% Feminine.

Look for Ryan Kurzack video on youtube, he works a lot with planetary energy. He even has a complete course on his website about it. I think at some point I will do it.

Thanks, I'll look into it.
But I find curious that people calling the feminine energy/power within themselves attract women. And those calling masculine energy within themselves attract men.

[JackOfHearts]

Thanks for clarifying. But I'm still confused, is Saturn actually the cause of a harsh reality in one's life ?

It's not clear cut, each planet when not well placed can be the cause of a harsh reality.
But Saturn is directly linked to the reason you are born, you are born to work on your Saturn, Saturn represents concrete reality. Concrete reality is that some people dies every day, that some death seems unfair, that it takes time to build a company, that people stab each other in the back. One way to work on your saturn is just to survive, no need to do anything more.
Another aspect is survival of the body or race, Saturn represent animals in the wild trying to survive to the harsh reality of life, killing for surviving. Someone with a good Saturn will strive to survive no matter what, even killing others if he has to.
It's a bit like a game, like in Matrix. Saturn makes you think that reality is real, that you need to kill for surviving. And you have to pretend that it's real

[Determined]

You should witness a transformation but it's a slow process, it doesn't happen overnight.

Obviously.

Mars is not masculinity though, Sun is. Mars is usually associated with masculine but it's not pure masculine energy. The Sun is 100% Masculine and the Moon is 100% Feminine.

Look for Ryan Kurzack video on youtube, he works a lot with planetary energy. He even has a complete course on his website about it. I think at some point I will do it.

Thanks, I'll look into it.
But I find curious that people calling the feminine energy/power within themselves attract women. And those calling masculine energy within themselves attract men.

Plouf, read some David Deida. He lays it all out really well

In essence, you will always attract your polarity. Attraction is polarity.
Highly masculine men will attract highly feminine partners and vice versa.

Masculine energy is; mission, purpose, direction
Feminine energy is; to be loves light, to be pretty, to be beautiful

As my last gf said "if she could wear every single piece of jewellery ever made all at once, that would be amazing" She's speaking about the essence of femininity - being loves light, that pretty thing that everyone must look at.

There is also "neutral polarity" which is where many married couples end up. It's important for a healthy sexual relationship that the polarity remain intact, masculine and feminine.

On a side note, something I've noticed. The two guys who ran SM and turned bi-sexual also have a strong feminine energy.

Should also be noted that everyone has their own balance of masculine/feminine energy and this can and does change over time. Some people start expressing more of one side or more of the other

[DarkPlouf]

In essence, you will always attract your polarity. Attraction is polarity.
Highly masculine men will attract highly feminine partners and vice versa.

Well that's what I thought but look:

Om Nama Shivaya
Use this mantra to salute the masculine nature (as embodied in Shiva). It is especially indicated for clarifying one’s own masculine aspect, which inevitably attracts the energy of a compatible man.

If I embody masculine energy, I should be more masculine, right ? So why would this attract men instead of women ?

Om Shrim Shriyei Namaha
This simple mantra invokes the Great Feminine within – which also attracts it from without. Used with pure intent, this mantra can draw the interest of a woman who is especially compatible with you

If I invoke the feminine within, I'm going to bo more feminine, right ? So why would women be more attracted to me ?

[Determined]

I'd disregard those mantras.

[DarkPlouf]

Well, it's not just about the mantras.
It has to do with planetary magick in the first place.
I read about someone who turned gay because he was working too much with feminine energy. (to attract women)

[JackOfHearts]

Feminine is "self love". Masculine is "self respect".
You need both, I wouldn't say it's about amount, but more about having an healthy feminine and an healthy masculine. And most important to have a minimum of both.

Here is 2 extreme examples:
-An highly super masculine man, without any feminine, which rarely happens just doesn't care about women at all; he doesn't care about socials contact, he may even indirectly hurts others as he doesn't even understand feelings. He might works 24 hours a day on his project. He also rarely change his mind, so much so that he never stop doing something even when it start to become useless.

-An super feminine man, without much masculine quality. He will spend all his time in social circles, chasing women all day, never working on himself alone, he will love one thing then next day change his mind. It will be all about sharing, and contacts but nothing to hold things together.

Now this is 2 examples but reality isn't that extreme.
And there is another thing in my opinion which isn't the quantity but how healthy that side is.
A man can be super feminine in an healthy way, meaning he doesn't hurt other feelings while doing it, because it's self love and if you love yourself you don't hate others. But the guy would still be somewhat lazy and you wouldn't put trust in him and his might change his mind or just forget about it.
Just like a super feminine woman, you feels great around her energy but you wouldn't count on her for a leadership role that require extreme sacrifice.

Then there is unhealthy masculine side. This is narcissism. A very masculine man but that doesn't really respect himself so he won't respect others either. Most of the world leaders today have some degree of that. This happens when your Sun is afflicted.

In my opinion extremes tend to attract more quantity, unhealthy extremes too.
-Extreme healthy masculine would attract but the guy wouldn't care at all, even Shannon isn't there yet in my opinion. So in reality sex would rarely happens with that kind of guy, that kind of guys wouldn't care about emotions or sex or connection as he is in direct connection to God, he doesn't require any connection or love, as he is love himself, completely independent. Or so he would think.

-Extreme healthy feminine would attract the most women in my opinion, I would say something like WM2 would make that happen more effectively. There is actually an avatar of the moon in Hinduism, and that avatar had sex with more women that you can count. Supposedly that love or sex with him was a direct connection to "God"

PS: I don't think too much feminine turn you gay. That's another thing.

[JackOfHearts]

One thing that may surprise you; if you want to have a woman to stick around I think you would want that she has a good masculine side. Or a good Saturn.

In my opinion the worst kind of women you can date have very unhealthy Saturn or Sun or both of them very afflicted.