Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

Couple of general questions I was hoping the community could answer.

I'm currently running E2 (DAY 153 of 192) and wanted to get my parents on it too. Think it could help with my mums past abuse and my dads fears regarding his health and his insecurities. Was thinking of setting up the speakers to run ultrasonic while they sleep in their room.

Question is...do I need to buy 1 or 2 additional copies (they sleep in the same bed so they will be exposed the same)

Secondly as it's rather hot in the evenings they have their fan on. When calibrating the ultrasonic track do I need to take into account the noise from the fan? Don't want to damage their hearing by setting the ultrasonic so high.

Appreciate any suggestions

If you are listening to the program for your own benefit, and you have a paid for copy, and they are exposed as a result of you using the program that you paid for for your own benefit, then you are within fair use rights, and you do not need to purchase anything.

If, on the other hand, you want one or both of them to have access to using it then you need to purchase as many copies as is necessary for them to use it outside those parameters.

For example, if you want to purchase it for dad, and dad always uses it while mom is around, then you only need one additional copy paid for. But if mom and dad want to use it while the other is not around, then they each need their own paid copy.

[Shannon]

Shannon,

Along the lines of alien ideas while listening to v2.3... I keep thinking "Why do I do X? Why not do Y?" And these ideas are so out of the ordinary for me I don't know where they are coming from.

Rather than just saying what these ideas are, suffice to say they are very different than how I usually think. Something is changing internally at a level of assumptions about who I am, identity, personality, etc. It's like "WTF?! Where did that idea come from?! Not me!"

Sure they are my thoughts and all, but they are contradicting a lot of assumptions and valued ideas I've had about myself and life in general. Liberating yet alien.

And then there is this emotion that is alien to me. I'm usually very calm and peaceful. Now I'm getting ^&*%ing pissed! Like I'm looking around my life and NOTHING seems right. Like it's all wrong! Like my current life is a mismatch to how it's supposed to be. Like who I am on the inside is completely mismatched to my external physical reality.

BTW, I'm glad I can provide you data. I just wish I could do more because I believe in being part of the solution and I refuse to just complain about how I'm not having women jump on me or whatever... I'd rather give you something you can use to help everyone. Right now, I'm at a loss.

I am glad you guys are providing me this data, but there's some piece of information I am still missing.

[Shannon]

Quick question Shannon!

First, thanks for your last bit of advice. I'm feeling much better now!

I now sometimes just feel like going up to someone and meeting them. I also feel like going up to certain girls to meet them and maybe do something with them. At this point should I act on this or no? This only really started after I lowered my hours.

I ask because I don't want to challenge/disrupt any of the positive beliefs E2 is still instilling (which I am just now DEFINITELY starting to notice).

Just do what feels natural.

[Shannon]

I think it's just a case of resistance.

Dzemoo got good results from it. He didn't like the way the sub made him "beta" but it did get a girl for him who wanted sex almost non-stop (apparently). Then you have people like chaos who are largely invested in the "I'm the HUNTER" ego-centric identity and so introducing such a polar-opposed sub is bound to cause issues.

I'd like to try this version myself and might buy it before Shannon upgrades just so I can. A lot of the reactions from people are similar to what I was getting recently in sales till I made a shift.

I think you guys need to understand that the sub doesn't make you beta. It is instructing you to do what will lead to sex by meeting the other person half way in their attraction response. If your subconscious believes that means being what you consider beta, then:

A) You may be misunderstanding what beta is.
B) You may be misunderstanding what alpha is.
C) You may be trying to execute subconscious programming in that direction that is still based in fear, which leads to beta behavior.
D) Your subconscious mind knows something your conscious mind does not.

[Shannon]

Shannon,

You seem to know about a lot of things...

a number of years ago someone told me that in his experience women who had their noses pierced tended to be angry at men. Now over the past 5 years, I've noticed a significant increase in women with nose piercings.

Now I'm not sure there is a 100% correlation between nose rings in women and those women being angry towards men, but I have wondered about that.

What are your thoughts?

I haven't studied the correlations between piercings and other things enough to really be able to speak on this.

[Steven]

Shannon,

Along the lines of alien ideas while listening to v2.3... I keep thinking "Why do I do X? Why not do Y?" And these ideas are so out of the ordinary for me I don't know where they are coming from.

Rather than just saying what these ideas are, suffice to say they are very different than how I usually think. Something is changing internally at a level of assumptions about who I am, identity, personality, etc. It's like "WTF?! Where did that idea come from?! Not me!"

Sure they are my thoughts and all, but they are contradicting a lot of assumptions and valued ideas I've had about myself and life in general. Liberating yet alien.

And then there is this emotion that is alien to me. I'm usually very calm and peaceful. Now I'm getting ^&*%ing pissed! Like I'm looking around my life and NOTHING seems right. Like it's all wrong! Like my current life is a mismatch to how it's supposed to be. Like who I am on the inside is completely mismatched to my external physical reality.

BTW, I'm glad I can provide you data. I just wish I could do more because I believe in being part of the solution and I refuse to just complain about how I'm not having women jump on me or whatever... I'd rather give you something you can use to help everyone. Right now, I'm at a loss.

I am glad you guys are providing me this data, but there's some piece of information I am still missing.

What is it that you're missing? Or is it a matter of "you'll know it when you see it but you don't know what it is"?

[Shannon]

Shannon,

Along the lines of alien ideas while listening to v2.3... I keep thinking "Why do I do X? Why not do Y?" And these ideas are so out of the ordinary for me I don't know where they are coming from.

Rather than just saying what these ideas are, suffice to say they are very different than how I usually think. Something is changing internally at a level of assumptions about who I am, identity, personality, etc. It's like "WTF?! Where did that idea come from?! Not me!"

Sure they are my thoughts and all, but they are contradicting a lot of assumptions and valued ideas I've had about myself and life in general. Liberating yet alien.

And then there is this emotion that is alien to me. I'm usually very calm and peaceful. Now I'm getting ^&*%ing pissed! Like I'm looking around my life and NOTHING seems right. Like it's all wrong! Like my current life is a mismatch to how it's supposed to be. Like who I am on the inside is completely mismatched to my external physical reality.

BTW, I'm glad I can provide you data. I just wish I could do more because I believe in being part of the solution and I refuse to just complain about how I'm not having women jump on me or whatever... I'd rather give you something you can use to help everyone. Right now, I'm at a loss.

I am glad you guys are providing me this data, but there's some piece of information I am still missing.

What is it that you're missing? Or is it a matter of "you'll know it when you see it but you don't know what it is"?

Let's say we have a simple equation, A = B + C + D.

In this case, we know C, and we know D, but we are not getting an A that matches C + D. So there must be at least one variable we are missing (A), and we don't know what it's value is.

I know it's missing because the parts of the equation I have don't match the answer. But I don't know what it is that's missing. And until I have enough information, I cannot know or figure it out. So the only options we have to gather more data are... wait and keep observing, or add more things to the script.

[Lowe]

Shannon, before MSI, there were no public testing for a subliminal, and the longer single-stages took a couple of months at most (EPRHA 2.0) to come out fully fleshed out, and it appears to work like a charm for its users.

Meanwhile, it has been fully 3 months since the first MSI came out, and we're still not quite near the desired results. In fact, it would seem we're moving backwards in terms of results. Despite 3 successive revisions, V1 had the most noticeable impacts for me as well.

Perhaps it is time to re-evaluate? Did you use only models and private testing before to quickly determine if a subliminal works? Would that speed up the process? Surely future 5.5G+ subliminals will not have the long gestation we currently have with MSI? And when do you plan on finishing the 2.x series and move on to V3?

[AriGold]

Shannon, thank you for the testing experience, we all learned much by doing it.

Couple of questions to DMSI:

- When will a final version be available that brings the results that are promised on the selling page?
We all bought it according to what is promised, but at the moment the outcome seems unknown. If we had started right away with SM3, we would be half through. Now we have 3 months in DAOSI, DMSI 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 and still the results are not overwhelming.

- What is the reason that the version with the healing module didn't work that great?
I mean, a lot of people here are talking about big inner changes and much more confidence on 2.3 - what does the healing module do? I thought healing would take away the GSF and make us confident, but it seems like it is the other way round. I personally don't see the anger as a problem, we just might not be used to it at the moment and have to find a way to deal with it. Let's call it boldness and it is something positive

- What is the difference between V1 and V2.3?
In the first version many of us were surprised by the aura generation. But there were some inconsistencies. We could not control it, sometimes it was there, sometimes it wasn't. It also wasn't the right target area of the people we were attracted to (too young or too old). Only that one and the hunger needed to be fixed in my opinion.

- I am not sure I want to ask about any more programs in 5.5G. If we want Ultra Success in an upgraded version, we will have so many other things in it, a healing module, a success aura or whatever, but all we wanted is a good program updated. If it becomes much more, it won't be the same anymore. Sometimes simplicity is king.

- What are the informations that you need to finish a successful version of DMSI?
Is it about our internal state? About our reactions to the outer world? About the reactions of the outer world to us? Do you need suggestions for a solution - then what kind of suggestions?

[Frosted]

Shannon do you plan on upgrading LTU to 5.5g or 6g in the near future?

[RoaringLion]

I had no problem with V2.2, i just wanted to see if the aura could be made more powerful.

[Shadow2200]

DMSI 2.2 helped a lot more then a lot of other subs i had used before. Keep the healing coming shannon

[rayrocanaldo]

There's something wrong with DMSI, Hopefully we can figure out what so we can move forward & obtain better results

[Steven]

Shannon,

"To my surprise, the new technology idea has survived modeling for two rounds against 14 other competing concepts. I have more rounds of modeling to do, but it is looking promising."

Would you please tell us more about this new technology?