Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Darkness]

It's problem bc it's looking like a magic pill , her feelings will always change. Let them. its turning into a mini magnet. No matter how high you make her feel there will be another who will get her higher . Over stuffing slows the result.

[Breeze]

It's problem bc it's looking like a magic pill , her feelings will always change. Let them. its turning into a mini magnet. No matter how high you make her feel there will be another who will get her higher . Over stuffing slows the result.

There is always going to someone who is making more money than you, do you stop making money, then? There is always going to be someone who is going to have more sex than you do, do you stop f*cking, then? (You, I don't mean you, speaking in general terms) I get where you are coming from, but IF it's possible without derailing or slowing down the results, it's a pretty nice add-on.

[maxx55]

Please let us know if you add in the emotional high!

Also, is it possible to add in something so that those you are sexually attracted to and interact with will think about you frequently or a few times a day after you leave?

Yeah, do let us know if you put it in.

Also Max, that was kinda of what I'm getting at. When I see women on this "emotional high" its like they can't get enough of the guy. They are constantly texting him, want to be around him, and am thinking about him constantly throughout the day. I think if you can , through the aura, to get the woman to feel the right combination and level of emotions in this emotional high in your presence she will naturally be addicted to it in a way and want to be in your presence very often. As I said though this could cause problems with the woman becoming obsessive, clingy, or stalkerish if she lacks self control. This goes especially for when you say "no" to her and she doesn't know how to handle it but then again thats more of her problem then your own. I think Lowe said it best. If you want to be really sexually attractive (like 20 out of 10 attractive) you have to take both the pros and the cons that come with it.

Shannon please keep aosi as simple as possible, there's no need for emotional high, when this sub is all about irresistible sex appeal. I want this to work thoroughly, not end up being let down.

I don't know why this would be a problem, unless the models show otherwise. This just guarantees for those that don't just want ONS but still want just mainly a sexual relationship (FWBs,etc) they can have the girl coming back multiple times instead of "well, slept with that hot guy, mission accomplish. Time to move on to something else". There are those times when a guy finds a girl he sleeps with that he actually wants to keep as one of his multiple FWBs/Girlfriends you could say.

I completely agree with you. If I got around to running this sub, I'd want it to be a full no holds barred experience of being sexually irresistible. I understand that there may be "negatives" like some girls acting stalkerish or not letting go, but that's fine. The way I see it, people always have problems, but people have different kinds and qualities of problems. "Oh no, this girl won't leave me alone." "Oh no, I don't know if I want to go to Hawaii or Italy for vacation". Those are problems I'd be glad to have to replace the ones I have now!

So Shannon, you gave us a warning that we may become too sexually attractive. I'd love to see that happen honestly. So I respectfully challenge you to make it just that good. Let's see some users post here about how annoyed they are about not being able to escape girls (or whatever gender the user is sexually attracted to) pounding down their door (or at least as close to that as possible)

[Sickologist]

Yeah, let's go all in here and make the new AOS as hard hitting as possible. I'll make the purchase as soon as it gets out. Thinking about the results I'm already having, I'm totally buzzing over here. You can't be too sexually attractive, let's say you're the male counterpart to those extremely hot glamour models, you attract women who are more or less on the same level as you. And that's not mentioning the other doors of opportunities that WILL be presented.

[SargeMaximus]

I don't know why this would be a problem, unless the models show otherwise. This just guarantees for those that don't just want ONS but still want just mainly a sexual relationship (FWBs,etc) they can have the girl coming back multiple times instead of "well, slept with that hot guy, mission accomplish. Time to move on to something else". There are those times when a guy finds a girl he sleeps with that he actually wants to keep as one of his multiple FWBs/Girlfriends you could say.

This is more or less what I was getting at. Ons are fine, but it should always be up to the user.

Basically: the water should never stop flowing, you just have to shut off the tap now and again.

[Darkness]

It's problem bc it's looking like a magic pill , her feelings will always change. Let them. its turning into a mini magnet. No matter how high you make her feel there will be another who will get her higher . Over stuffing slows the result.

There is always going to someone who is making more money than you, do you stop making money, then? There is always going to be someone who is going to have more sex than you do, do you stop f*cking, then? (You, I don't mean you, speaking in general terms) I get where you are coming from, but IF it's possible without derailing or slowing down the results, it's a pretty nice add-on.

On the AOS 4g, 10s were checking me out , I would catch them and the would keep staring. When I was walking to work, a Latin girl 8 in looks tells me: I don't know who's prettier me or you. I was stuck for a response . These results after three weeks in May 2013, I don't want to lose.

AM5 was great all it needed was OGF. Then AM6 came. The effect and was diminished. And this was with Shannon's models giving a green light to all the add ons. One mind , one goal, let's not get over zealous and pay for it worse when real life hits.

This emotional high sounds WMish.

[DarthXedonias]

It's problem bc it's looking like a magic pill , her feelings will always change. Let them. its turning into a mini magnet. No matter how high you make her feel there will be another who will get her higher . Over stuffing slows the result.

There is always going to someone who is making more money than you, do you stop making money, then? There is always going to be someone who is going to have more sex than you do, do you stop f*cking, then? (You, I don't mean you, speaking in general terms) I get where you are coming from, but IF it's possible without derailing or slowing down the result, it's a pretty nice add-on.

+1 Close to my thoughts.

Not to mention its not exactly true all the time anyway that someone might get her "higher" emotionally than you. I've seen woman who've gotten hooked on one guy, guy leaves her, and then she goes on a dating "spree" where she compares every guy she dates with that guy that left her. She finds that all the other guys just don't get her as emotionally "up there" as that guy that left her. This usually ends up with her tracking the guy down and trying to seduce him again or begging him to take her back. Doesn't happen all the time but it happens enough.

Also, if it gets close to "overstuffing" Shannon will say so. If the idea doesn't sound feasible he will comment on that as well. If it is he will run it through the models and if it helps with the effects then it will be added. Don't get why everyone is so worried. He does has a process for these things.

I completely agree with you. If I got around to running this sub, I'd want it to be a full no holds barred experience of being sexually irresistible. I understand that there may be "negatives" like some girls acting stalkerish or not letting go, but that's fine. The way I see it, people always have problems, but people have different kinds and qualities of problems. "Oh no, this girl won't leave me alone." "Oh no, I don't know if I want to go to Hawaii or Italy for vacation". Those are problems I'd be glad to have to replace the ones I have now! Smile

Exactly! I rather have the type of overabundance problems that come with having a lot of woman than the type of problems you have when you are "lacking".

This is more or less what I was getting at. Ons are fine, but it should always be up to the user.

Basically: the water should never stop flowing, you just have to shut off the tap now and again. Smile

Yep. There might be some girls I would only want to sleep with once but some others I might want to keep coming back for more if I let them.

[SargeMaximus]

Pretty strong IOI just now, while driving no less.

I was on the highway going 100km/hr and I look beside me and 2 lanes over there's this blonde girl. I can't tell what she looks like but I'm hoping she's cute. I start trying to imagine what her breasts look like through the door and then she moves her hair so I can see the side of her face.

I like stuff like that. That kind of effect (more reveals, more butt displays, more sexual behavior) should be included in AOSI as well.

Not to mention that, whatever makes girls do that (display themselves sexually to a male) should be heightened as well.

I was thinking about this more this morning and it's not just status that would be good, but also approval. Women should sleep with you for approval as well.

When I did AM 6 for the first time, I had a girl in the gym come onto me pretty strongly, and I think it was an approval thing because my trainer was kind of a big dog in the gym yet he was always qualifying to me. Eventually, he would ask me stuff like "What do you think of [girl]? She's got nice tits, right?" and it wasn't the usual male bonding/talk about which girls are hot, it was more like he was probing me to see if I'd want to sleep with her. I always thought she probably put him up to it.

But something like that would be great, not just the probing but the result is what the girls should go after. Like Darth says, girls do that with guys all the time. And especially since girls are more socially attuned, I don't think it would be that hard to make you a social "top dog" simply by NOT displaying the negative behavior others do (jealousy, neediness, approval seeking, etc). Then, from there, it just becomes girls wanting to be in good standing with you, and how do they achieve that? Simple: if she's hot: she's gotta please you sexually, if she's not, she's gotta introduce her friends to you. I mean, sure a girl can sleep with another guy to get her validation or approval, but there has to be something compelling about the user that makes her need HIS approval, and the only way to get it is through pleasing him sexually.

I believe this is the pure form of male/female dynamics anyways, but I digress.

[gtavmofo]

Talking of upgrades any chance of a upgraded ASC Shannon, 5.5G with all the trimmings ect?

[DarthXedonias]

Talking of upgrades any chance of a upgraded ASC Shannon, 5.5G with all the trimmings ect?

I believe Shannon has said that ASC will be the first public prototype 6G sub he makes. So I think hes waiting until hes done with 6G development then ASC 6G is going to be the first one he releases to the public for mass testing. I don't think theres going to be a 5.5G ASC because of that.

[SargeMaximus]

Pretty strong IOI just now, while driving no less.

I was on the highway going 100km/hr and I look beside me and 2 lanes over there's this blonde girl. I can't tell what she looks like but I'm hoping she's cute. I start trying to imagine what her breasts look like through the door and then she moves her hair so I can see the side of her face.

I like stuff like that. That kind of effect (more reveals, more butt displays, more sexual behavior) should be included in AOSI as well.

Not to mention that, whatever makes girls do that (display themselves sexually to a male) should be heightened as well.

As long as it is not just c@ck teasing. I would prefer this sub to get end goal results.

I do love bent over but displays... and big natural breasts ...but who don't?

Lol, yeah, who doesn't is right.

But of course. This all has to be towards the end goal. Teasing is the last thing we want. In fact, if a girl teases you it's the best way to lose approval and status, get me?

[Shannon]

There's a very good chance that this will have the side effect of being a libido booster because it's designed to flood you to overflowing with the kind of energy that makes people you are sexually attracted to want to have sex with you.

In all the experiments I have done in this direction, that has definitely resulted in an increase in my libdo.

By how you described AOSI 5.5G, it's somewhat spectacular. Can't imagine AM/SM/WM/BASE in the next update.

In the mean time, let AOSI 5.5G amuse me

My description will be based on my best information at the time. If we don't want to wait for 2-3 months of real world testing, that information will come almost entirely from the average of the aggregate data coming from the models. Keep in mind that in order to get the best results overall, I primarily aim the model queries at very long time frames and of course this gives me the overall impact, but not the individual one. I'm certainly aiming to make it spectacular, but you have to keep these things in mind.

[Shannon]

IME, when I reject women in my social circle they either:

1.) Don't speak to me again
2.) Immediately have sex with someone else to try and "hurt" me
3.) Gain new respect and giggle/blush every time they see me

I never thought about "fear of being sexy" being a thing, but I can see how it might be for some if they have never been considered sexy before. My fear is more a fear of being open/vulnerable, but being sexy does nothing but improve your life. The fear of it is irrational... but then I guess so is the fear of vulnerability so I can't judge.

Which brings me onto: is there any programming in AOSI that helps us become more vulnerable with women? When I get IOIs from women, I'll self-sabotage by telling myself I'm too good for her, or that she's lower value and needy because she's approaching me, but I realize it's me protecting my own ego because I am afraid to be open and be rejected.

Will AOSI have anything in there to help with that, or is it outside the scope of the program?

Also, will you be releasing the files in FLAC like you did for E2?

More vulnerable? No.

That's the sort of thing that is outside the goal boundaries of a program like this. It's designed to generate an aura, not heal you. We have other programs for that. Sounds like you should perhaps run one of them first? Although you may be surprised how the program affects you.

Okay, I thought it was probably outside the range of the programs goals. Power + vulnerability = sexy anyway, so it's possible my subconscious will make me more vulnerable in its interpretation of the word sexy. We'll see!

Sorry, think you missed this part: will you be releasing it in FLAC format? Thank you.

Yes. Anything coming out in 5.5G or higher will have FLAC as an option.

[Shannon]

I've had women get visibly frustrated from my 'rejecting' them (which was really just me not knowing how to seduce her properly aka "dropping the ball") but I've also had women try to help me seduce them. Maybe that's something you could add as well Shannon, persistence on the girl's part. And so long as you don't outright say " no, I'm not interested " ("safe" phrase maybe that breaks them out of the trance? This is too fun to think about) then she'll keep trying.

That doesn't work, unfortunately. Not for this type of program.

That's too bad. Oh well, it was fun to think about.

EDIT: in line with what alignment was saying, why not make it so women get validation if they sleep with you?

You guys are so focused on the male-centric point of view. I have to consider, to the best of my ability, the point of view of male, female gay, straight and bisexual. I also have to consider that people of all ages may use the program.

That said, I'll see what the models say.