Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Benjamin]

@Shannon

Will LTU 5.5G contain EPRHA 3.0?

If yes, that would mean the next EPRHA needs to be built before the next LTU.

Personally, I would like to see a LTU which is as effective as possible.

Yes, Shannon's initial plan is for E3 to be in LTU. This post talks about initial plans, but it depends on whether it all can be done or not.

https://www.subliminal-talk.com/Thread-M...#pid206179

[Choice]

Hey @Shannon,

1) Is there any advantage to using separately USLM or UMOP compared to the upcoming LTU 5.5g which has both titles in it?

2) H&C/FRM:

The H&C is designed, in all but the EHPRA programs, to help you get to execution. It was based on my best understanding of what to do at the time, but it was not effective in the ways it needed to be. The result was endless healing and clearing, because the root cause was not being dealt with, and the stuff to heal was simply being regenerated as fast as it was healed and cleared.

Then I traced it back and found that literally everything standing in the way of execution stems from fear. So I created the FRM, and that is showing promising results.

The FRM should entirely replace H&C in all subs other than EHPRA and subs like LTU 5.5G which themselves contain EHPRA.

Does this mean those who paid both for DMSI A & B side will get store credit for A side since it has been proven ineffective, and will no longer be in the final release?

3) Is it possible to boost up/enhance the confidence script inside the skeleton script? I'm quoting this from Starcut's journal which highlights the benefits:

I notice everywhere I go lately I catch girls looking at me and when I look at them they smile and I smile back. It's a simple interaction but nice. I notice the more I become confident my body language is changing, I walk slower, calmer and more confidently with purpose, standing tall with my head held high and a small smile on my face. Loose and relaxed and confident and girls notice! ASC isn't just boosting my confidence it's making me FEEL more attractive and it comes across in the way I move and girls pick up on it.

Life is good.

4) Lastly, is the state shifting & autopilot inside DMSI work 24/7 or needs a stimulus/trigger to activate? For instance (without trigger), You're sitting at home and suddenly feel the urge to go out and meet girls.

[Oversoul]

When writing down goals for US/LM, how long term should the goals be?

Also, should we start with smaller goals and work our way to bigger ones or can we start with the biggest ones?

Thanks

[samba99]

Choice,

I think it's completely unfair to ask for store credits for version A of DMSI. Some of us got version A as a free update. Plus Shannon put way more time into this program. If anything I think we should donate to him even more so he can get this baby done without worrying about the monthly monetary responsibilities.

[XyzN]

I would think DMSI not be refundable till final version is verified, ran according to instructions and only after that be applicable.

[Jake2015]

@Shannon is there anything in UMOP2 that will combat 'self-sabotage' (thoughts, behaviours/actions etc) please?

thanks mate.

[Jake2015]

@Choice DMSI is experimental and so money back for that im unsure about but wouldnt feel its necessary. I speak as someone that hasnt executed from any sub except for DMSI 3.2 (not fapping). So I could say hey H&C hasnt worked in the past for me either but you have to play according to the 3months rules firstly. For me however i havent played for 3months as I jumped to other subs in the hope of execution so I havent asked for a refund.

Also I recall @Shannon saying in the past that H&C has not failed, its worked but its not worked in the manner needed to overcome the root issue. Instead it heals and clears then another issue arises so it heals and clears but the root remains.

Therefore the root is going to be completely annihilated with FRM v3 or v4 or whichever will do it best. After that H&C will still have a purpose, which is to then heal and clear whatever remains and the debris left behind.

So its not failed, just not worked in the way it was thought of but it still worked in other ways.

hope that made sense bud!

edit: I went back and read your post and realised you have actually quoted where shannon said the above so my bad there and hopefully shannon can give you the best response.

[THolt]

Awesome news for USLM and UMOP users!! Wooooooo!

Bad news for DMSI users.

Same shit happened before 3.2’s release iirc

Indeed. I doubt that the building of the sub will be started before 20 November. I hope I’m wrong though. Seems like there are always delays with everything the past couple years

There is a good reason for why these delays have been happening for the last 2-3 years.

The cycle that was affecting me last year and the year before? Well I was wrong. It didn't end, I only got a break of about 2 months from it before it did something I have never seen before... it came back for a 4th pass.

I didn't want to mention this because of the people who don't "believe in" the cycle and can't wrap their heads around the fact that things happen sometimes whether or not you "believe in" them.

The bad news is, we're still under that influence. Should have been apparent given the theme of failure, frustration, delay.

The good news is, it will finally be going away fully on the 27th of December. And it will be gone until 2025.

So yea, I'm doing my best under the circumstances, and that's why I am focusing so much on and using USLM so much. I can't afford to fail, or just sit and wait, and getting frustrated doesn't help.

So y'all who are getting upset because DMSI isn't going fast enough, just deal with it. I can't do anything about that right now more than what I'm doing. It'll be done when it's done. I have to build USLM3 right now.

Funny how that cycle keeps appearing....

[Choice]

Choice,

I think it's completely unfair to ask for store credits for version A of DMSI. Some of us got version A as a free update. Plus Shannon put way more time into this program. If anything I think we should donate to him even more so he can get this baby done without worrying about the monthly monetary responsibilities.

Not everyone got version A as a free update. I'm only pointing out that version A wont be present in the final version, which is why I said it might be worth a consideration.

@Jake2015 No one asked for refund, I fully support Shannon. I only asked if we might be elgible for store credit for future titles.

[Williamx25]

@Shannon

Is it okay to drink alcohol while doing this maximum learning speed program?

If you don’t listen that day, will drinking interfere with the program? Or should I just limit
my alcohol consumption to a couple of beers only ?

I’m still a college student and the fact that I I can’t have drinks or the occasional recreational drugs at student parties is a pretty big limitation for my social life / friends etc

How can we go around this ? Or do I have to really be sober for the program to work?

I understand that every drop of alcohol will set back / hinders my progress. But I want to know how much

State shifting, both In The Moment and Triggered, are there to help you make the program work at it's highest levels of efficiency and success.

If you fully execute that code, they can and will simply autopilot you right to the end goal. That requires that you execute the code, however, instead of resisting it out of fear. Or de-railing it with drugs.

You can party till the cows come home, and still have the program work. But the autopiloting and state shifting modules will have been de-railed, which will lessen the speed and effectiveness of the program.

I am working on a way to cause the program to override the effects of drugs on the autopiloting, but that may not be possible. So in the interest of the safe, effective and useful motto, you must currently choose between living your life and achieving maximum possible results. For some, living their life is what makes more sense. For others, they will find that it is worth the extra effort to get the state shifting effects.

I can't tell you which is right for you, but I can tell you that the program should work regardless, as long as you don't keep yourself in a state of drunkenness and/or drug induced altered state all the time. It will just work faster, better and more easily if you let it influence your mental state.

Thank you for your detailed explanation. I can already feel that I am executing the program because i've been eating nothing but healthy organic foods, i've been studying alot more than usually. I'm taking extra courses of maths and physics and I passed every exam and calculus with a B+ without putting much hours in, I revized it maybe a few hours. I've got one more exam left and i'm confident that I will pass this one as well. The tickling stream has a calming motivating effect while studying physics.

So in total I will recieve all study points the first half semester. I was afraid of myself and my procrastination but that's changed now. I'm in a constant study and learning flow. I also picked up python programming because it interests me and to prepare for future courses.

I kept listening and the changes have become more noticable.

[Shannon]

Bad news for DMSI users.

Same shit happened before 3.2’s release iirc

Indeed. I doubt that the building of the sub will be started before 20 November. I hope I’m wrong though. Seems like there are always delays with everything the past couple years

There is a good reason for why these delays have been happening for the last 2-3 years.

The cycle that was affecting me last year and the year before? Well I was wrong. It didn't end, I only got a break of about 2 months from it before it did something I have never seen before... it came back for a 4th pass.

I didn't want to mention this because of the people who don't "believe in" the cycle and can't wrap their heads around the fact that things happen sometimes whether or not you "believe in" them.

The bad news is, we're still under that influence. Should have been apparent given the theme of failure, frustration, delay.

The good news is, it will finally be going away fully on the 27th of December. And it will be gone until 2025.

So yea, I'm doing my best under the circumstances, and that's why I am focusing so much on and using USLM so much. I can't afford to fail, or just sit and wait, and getting frustrated doesn't help.

So y'all who are getting upset because DMSI isn't going fast enough, just deal with it. I can't do anything about that right now more than what I'm doing. It'll be done when it's done. I have to build USLM3 right now.

Funny how that cycle keeps appearing....

This is exactly what I was talking about in the bold above. Always someone has to make a dig, or a criticism, or think I'm clueless or delusional or stupid or some other crap, because they don't experience it themselves and they "don't believe in it".

Well it's real and we're all gonna deal with it. The board losing it's mind and having all those people banned was one of the effects it had at it's worst, so it obviously wasn't affecting me alone.

I already said that I had never seen it go past three passes before, and finding out that there was a fourth pass did not please me at all. But it's not like I'm imagining this. I'm not "placebo"ing this into existence. I'm not making up bullshit excuses to slack off.

I'm really tired of getting shit all over, for YEARS at a time, by this influence, and having the final insult be that everyone around me thinks I'm clueless or delusional or stupid or some other crap, because they don't experience it themselves and they "don't believe in it".

Not that it would matter to those of you, but you don't have a clue about even half of what this cycle has done to me, my house, my car, my family, my life, my girlfriend, my relationships or my business. The fact that IML still exists is amazing to me, honestly, and it wouldn't if I didn't have some of these subs to get me through.

So please, if you have your skepticism, or some sort of snarky comment or whatever, be kind to what is left of me after three plus YEARS of this shit and keep it to yourself. I don't need any more crap to deal with.

[Shannon]

@Shannon

Will LTU 5.5G contain EPRHA 3.0?

If yes, that would mean the next EPRHA needs to be built before the next LTU.

Personally, I would like to see a LTU which is as effective as possible.

LTU will have E3 in it. E3 will be created inside LTU, and it will be built as an external stand alone after LTU 5.5G is built.

[Shannon]

Hey @Shannon,

1) Is there any advantage to using separately USLM or UMOP compared to the upcoming LTU 5.5g which has both titles in it?

Given the option, I am a going to be using LTU and compare it to the effects of USLM. I am designing it to be a "go to all in one", so people don't have to choose between the major popular subs for improving their lives. I expect it will be just what I need to make my life the best it can be, and I expect no less for you guys.

2) H&C/FRM:

The H&C is designed, in all but the EHPRA programs, to help you get to execution. It was based on my best understanding of what to do at the time, but it was not effective in the ways it needed to be. The result was endless healing and clearing, because the root cause was not being dealt with, and the stuff to heal was simply being regenerated as fast as it was healed and cleared.

Then I traced it back and found that literally everything standing in the way of execution stems from fear. So I created the FRM, and that is showing promising results.

The FRM should entirely replace H&C in all subs other than EHPRA and subs like LTU 5.5G which themselves contain EHPRA.

Does this mean those who paid both for DMSI A & B side will get store credit for A side since it has been proven ineffective, and will no longer be in the final release?

We will be deciding what is what when DMSI Final has been built and released and used according to the instructions. We don't know whether A side will be necessary. We only know that it is my goal to eliminate it, but it may prove necessary and/or helpful and I may or may not keep it. We have a long way to go before I know that.

3) Is it possible to boost up/enhance the confidence script inside the skeleton script? I'm quoting this from Starcut's journal which highlights the benefits:

I notice everywhere I go lately I catch girls looking at me and when I look at them they smile and I smile back. It's a simple interaction but nice. I notice the more I become confident my body language is changing, I walk slower, calmer and more confidently with purpose, standing tall with my head held high and a small smile on my face. Loose and relaxed and confident and girls notice! ASC isn't just boosting my confidence it's making me FEEL more attractive and it comes across in the way I move and girls pick up on it.

Life is good.

You're telling me that the old 5G ASC is better than the self confidence scripting in the skeleton script, and you want it to be better. My response would be that we have to see what FRM does, first. Because it may be that self confidence as a singular focus will always work better than self confidence as an addition to the skeleton script, and it may be that we just need to eliminate the fear that currently prevents you from executing the script for the self confidence in the skeleton script.

4) Lastly, is the state shifting & autopilot inside DMSI work 24/7 or needs a stimulus/trigger to activate? For instance (without trigger), You're sitting at home and suddenly feel the urge to go out and meet girls.

In The Moment state shifting works in the moment. It is primarily active while you are listening to the program, until P6 kicks in and starts the program running in your head all the time.

Triggered state shifting kicks in in response to specific conditions.

The ITM-SS is subject to the influence of your natural circadian rhythms and whatever drugs you ingest. It's not going to keep you in an altered state 24/7. You still have to sleep, and you still need to rest.

The state shifting doesn't make you want to go out and meet girls, even if the program is designed for that. The state shifting is designed to put you in the best possible mental state for executing the script.

[Shannon]

When writing down goals for US/LM, how long term should the goals be?

Whatever goals you write down should be the goals you will have in mind regularly. So if you are going for a goal of becoming a billionaire within X number of years, it will be fine as long as it is in your mind constantly.

If it's not, then you'll want to focus on those goals that are. USLM focuses on what you consciously want, but it is best when you are constantly (or at least frequently) thinking about those goals. So short and medium term goals are often good choices.

Also, should we start with smaller goals and work our way to bigger ones or can we start with the biggest ones?

Thanks

I have a major over-arching set of goals, and then I have medium term sub-goals, and then I break those down into short term goals. Sometimes, I break my short term goals down into even smaller steps.

This works, as long as you can keep everything in mind. Again, it focuses on your conscious goals and desires. So whatever it is you are most able to keep in mind on a regular basis.