Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Jake2015]

@Shannon Hey Buddy

Ive been on UMOP for 34days so far of which 15 have been 5loops. - no change as yet.

Did the models give any indication when I could see some change if any or is it simply a case of a change would be since anytime upto day 90?

Based on this do you feel the FRM would help me at all?

thanks in advance

They did not indicate when - only that 5 loops should be your second best results. I did not model anything else. I am of the opinion that you have done what I expected you to do, which is, you simply responded to what was forecast for you by adjusting to negate it. I had the feeling that you would do that, and that you would therefore "get no results".

I have run the models again on your situation, and they now show total failure for you at 5 loops per day. That would be what was expected if you were to adjust to the static 5 loops per day to intentionally prevent it from working.

I believe the FRM would help you immensely, as long as it was sufficiently advanced. I don't know if V2 would help you. But it is worth a shot, as is v3, which will be in DMSI 3.3. If you would like to try USLM2 for a while and see if FRMv2 helps, that could be helpful. But the choice of what to do is up to you, but I definitely want to see what DMSI 3.3 does for you when it comes out.

Thanks for taking the time to reply as always @Shannon

1) Can I get my money back therefore for UMOP as it hasnt worked after following instructions? if not then must I use it for 90days for this since we both now know it will only fail for me?

2) I understand. I havent intentionally done anything except tried both 3 loops and then 5 loops and just sad its not worked even now. I have shared whatever data I thought I could and should as always and will remain to do this openly going forward too so please do watch for my next journal.

3) Since you want me to try FRM, isnt it possible my subconscious will do the same as it has with 5loops and negate that because you have said try FRM? or am I misunderstanding things here?


4) I feel based on many factors which ill share, that its best I wait for DMSI 3.3 rather than jump onto USLM2 in haste:

a) I know of 1 member that has had reversal resistance on USLM2, and presume as i am a difficult resistant type that thus it may not work for me. (I read posts and came across 1 member but dont read everything so apologise if there are more with resistance on USLM2)

b) I would much rather go for the stronger tech than try and hope that FRM.v2 works. I have in the past chosen subs for a purpose but then jumped onto DMSI for the sole reason of trying to get to the tech that will assist me to execute and only jumped onto UMOP as this was and had always been the 1 sub that I knew I needed most of all. Alas now im back at square 1 so thus will only remain on DMSI until we get me executing.

c) 3.3 will start build around 20th November you said, so makes better sense to wait for that.

d) For me USLM2's effects would be a tricky one to notice, I feel. I feel overall that im a fortunate and lucky guy. At times things just happen for me and I notice these things and then show gratitude each and everytime that it happened. Therefore unless I win the lottery which I dont play or suddenly come into wealth of some large extreme measure I wouldnt be able to notice execution of this sub I feel thus much better to try 3.3 as its results will be beyond obvious in terms of not fapping, not wasting time with porn, getting fitter physically, eating right, looking after myself and overall and most of all getting female attention and females trying to get me.

e) Both YOU and I are eager to see how 3.3 with the v3 of FRM works on me.


5) Shall I therefore take 35days break now in anticipation of DMSI 3.3?

6) When DMSI 3.3 is made and released, would it be better I start the same as every one else or would you prefer to perform a modelling forecast for me with it, so we can hit the ground running at the best number of loops?

I am glad that I didnt in haste spend more money on devices to try the 11loop since now we know (though im not fully sure how) that my subconscious will negate any effects you inform me of. I dont recall you telling me anything about 5loops or 11loops except that the models said that they would work really well and to me this is no different to each and every time I have bought a sub, with the proviso that the sub will work 100% as the sales page suggests it would. Therefore I hope that whatever the issues are for me not executing can be resolved with your help.

My goal is same as yours, to get past whatever obstacles are preventing me from fully executing so that you can make the best subs on the planet and I can of course execute and benefit. If you recall the 1 time I am 100% sure that I executed was on 1 loops with headphones on 3.2. I still believe 1 loop with headphones perhaps is the best way for me to execute but im throwing this in there incase its data you can consider for me.

That being said, thank you for allowing me to be part of this journey with IML and even though im sad about UMOP, after 3 years im still optimistic that I can be helped.


Thanks in advance buddy!

addendum:
I just realised that I havent noticed any TID from 3.3 so does this mean I already wont execute that too?

Jake, you are trying everything to prove it does not work and you also don't want to give it time to work. These programs need consistency. It is not a quick fix.
The programs with FRM might help more, but why not just run UMOP for 3 months?

My main question is: How bad do you want to succeed?
Really bad? Or just to show that you tried and failed? If it is the second one then you pattern might also show up when you use DMSI. You are now in a very resistant phase. I would nearly go as far to say that you are very close to executing, because your subconscious tries to fight with tooth an nail it tries to drive you into hopelessness and makes you want to give up. Just finish the three months, otherwise you will never find out if it had worked or not.

Hey @AriGold Thanks for replying and appreciate the wisdom.

The only reason I said to stop UMOP is based on what shannon said, which was that I will fail even with 5loops and that FRM is what I need to try. Did I misunderstand this at all? Otherwise I would continue with UMOP for 3months as that was my intention.

Im happy to do 3 months if thats what I should do, but honestly I thought @Shannon basically said to stop it as theres no point, im going to fail with the 5loops.

isnt that what he said?

If not ill continue for 3months otherwise.

[Fluffy]

@Shannon Hey Buddy

Ive been on UMOP for 34days so far of which 15 have been 5loops. - no change as yet.

Did the models give any indication when I could see some change if any or is it simply a case of a change would be since anytime upto day 90?

Based on this do you feel the FRM would help me at all?

thanks in advance

They did not indicate when - only that 5 loops should be your second best results. I did not model anything else. I am of the opinion that you have done what I expected you to do, which is, you simply responded to what was forecast for you by adjusting to negate it. I had the feeling that you would do that, and that you would therefore "get no results".

I have run the models again on your situation, and they now show total failure for you at 5 loops per day. That would be what was expected if you were to adjust to the static 5 loops per day to intentionally prevent it from working.

I believe the FRM would help you immensely, as long as it was sufficiently advanced. I don't know if V2 would help you. But it is worth a shot, as is v3, which will be in DMSI 3.3. If you would like to try USLM2 for a while and see if FRMv2 helps, that could be helpful. But the choice of what to do is up to you, but I definitely want to see what DMSI 3.3 does for you when it comes out.

Thanks for taking the time to reply as always @Shannon

1) Can I get my money back therefore for UMOP as it hasnt worked after following instructions? if not then must I use it for 90days for this since we both now know it will only fail for me?

2) I understand. I havent intentionally done anything except tried both 3 loops and then 5 loops and just sad its not worked even now. I have shared whatever data I thought I could and should as always and will remain to do this openly going forward too so please do watch for my next journal.

3) Since you want me to try FRM, isnt it possible my subconscious will do the same as it has with 5loops and negate that because you have said try FRM? or am I misunderstanding things here?


4) I feel based on many factors which ill share, that its best I wait for DMSI 3.3 rather than jump onto USLM2 in haste:

a) I know of 1 member that has had reversal resistance on USLM2, and presume as i am a difficult resistant type that thus it may not work for me. (I read posts and came across 1 member but dont read everything so apologise if there are more with resistance on USLM2)

b) I would much rather go for the stronger tech than try and hope that FRM.v2 works. I have in the past chosen subs for a purpose but then jumped onto DMSI for the sole reason of trying to get to the tech that will assist me to execute and only jumped onto UMOP as this was and had always been the 1 sub that I knew I needed most of all. Alas now im back at square 1 so thus will only remain on DMSI until we get me executing.

c) 3.3 will start build around 20th November you said, so makes better sense to wait for that.

d) For me USLM2's effects would be a tricky one to notice, I feel. I feel overall that im a fortunate and lucky guy. At times things just happen for me and I notice these things and then show gratitude each and everytime that it happened. Therefore unless I win the lottery which I dont play or suddenly come into wealth of some large extreme measure I wouldnt be able to notice execution of this sub I feel thus much better to try 3.3 as its results will be beyond obvious in terms of not fapping, not wasting time with porn, getting fitter physically, eating right, looking after myself and overall and most of all getting female attention and females trying to get me.

e) Both YOU and I are eager to see how 3.3 with the v3 of FRM works on me.


5) Shall I therefore take 35days break now in anticipation of DMSI 3.3?

6) When DMSI 3.3 is made and released, would it be better I start the same as every one else or would you prefer to perform a modelling forecast for me with it, so we can hit the ground running at the best number of loops?

I am glad that I didnt in haste spend more money on devices to try the 11loop since now we know (though im not fully sure how) that my subconscious will negate any effects you inform me of. I dont recall you telling me anything about 5loops or 11loops except that the models said that they would work really well and to me this is no different to each and every time I have bought a sub, with the proviso that the sub will work 100% as the sales page suggests it would. Therefore I hope that whatever the issues are for me not executing can be resolved with your help.

My goal is same as yours, to get past whatever obstacles are preventing me from fully executing so that you can make the best subs on the planet and I can of course execute and benefit. If you recall the 1 time I am 100% sure that I executed was on 1 loops with headphones on 3.2. I still believe 1 loop with headphones perhaps is the best way for me to execute but im throwing this in there incase its data you can consider for me.

That being said, thank you for allowing me to be part of this journey with IML and even though im sad about UMOP, after 3 years im still optimistic that I can be helped.


Thanks in advance buddy!

addendum:
I just realised that I havent noticed any TID from 3.3 so does this mean I already wont execute that too?

Jake, you are trying everything to prove it does not work and you also don't want to give it time to work. These programs need consistency. It is not a quick fix.
The programs with FRM might help more, but why not just run UMOP for 3 months?

My main question is: How bad do you want to succeed?
Really bad? Or just to show that you tried and failed? If it is the second one then you pattern might also show up when you use DMSI. You are now in a very resistant phase. I would nearly go as far to say that you are very close to executing, because your subconscious tries to fight with tooth an nail it tries to drive you into hopelessness and makes you want to give up. Just finish the three months, otherwise you will never find out if it had worked or not.

Hey @AriGold Thanks for replying and appreciate the wisdom.

The only reason I said to stop UMOP is based on what shannon said, which was that I will fail even with 5loops and that FRM is what I need to try. Did I misunderstand this at all? Otherwise I would continue with UMOP for 3months as that was my intention.

Im happy to do 3 months if thats what I should do, but honestly I thought @Shannon basically said to stop it as theres no point, im going to fail with the 5loops.

isnt that what he said?

If not ill continue for 3months otherwise.

This has been said from the very beginning, I remember from 2010 this was being said. You think just persisting, playing, pushing, forcing through actually works? I don't think so. If this was true then all this new FRM would not even need to exist in the first place. Let alone what will need to be invented in future developments.

[Shannon]

"Unlucky events" is reverse resistance, especially since that is specifically going against the instructions of at least one module in the script. Reverse resistance is a fear based response. So let's give the FRM more time and see what happens.

Maybe it is execution according to current beliefs. I just remembered some things I have been always told in my childhood like "We are not lucky, others are" and "Everything good has its price". I somehow got ultra success in creating unlucky events.

The only thing that I have ever found caused reverse resistance, and this is 100% of the time, is fear. You obviously have a fear of achieving ultra success, very likely because you are afraid of some undefined "price" that "good things" have.

But the FRM is designed to overcome fear. So here we are, and there are only two things possible:

1. FRM hasn't had enough time to overcome those fears yet.
2. FRM isn't yet advanced enough, or doesn't yet have the right support from the rest of the script.

The only way for me to know which it is, is for you to keep going.

[Shannon]

Will there be a E3 soon?

Shortly after LTU 5.5G is built.

[san_hal]

Will there be a E3 soon?

Shortly after LTU 5.5G is built.

E3 will as powerful as DMSI. And will be full range unlike DMSI, which is goal oriented.

Isn't it right?

[guyinlahore]

Will there be a E3 soon?

Shortly after LTU 5.5G is built.

Can we expect it somewhere in January 2019 or later? and secondly will it be loop based or time based like E2 i.e minimum 8 hours each day. I think all new subs are now loop based.

[DarkTempatation]

This is for @Shannon and I believe this is quite important. I've noticed using E2. Using Universal detox, USLM 1. & Now USLM 2. I get GUT issues.
GUT issues including, Stomach acidity, Burning, bloating, feeling sick, heaviness Which is very Bad my bottom left stomach as well bottom right stomach. Yes I have been doctors many times got scans done all they recommend is stupid acid blockers which makes it worse. I also use oil on my stomach herbal cures which helps


I'm not blaming the subliminal but I've noticed I get it alot. So then I run MHS 5.5G instantly and within a week I am cured. I avoid takeaways I don't eat eggs. & I am quite cautious what I eat. I have been running USLM 2 for about 1 week. Only 1 Loop to test this and today I've got the issue again. It's been an USLM and MHS cycle for me which is anonying as i just want to focus on USLM 2.

Any suggestions/opinions Shannon please thanks.

[Hatman]

This is for @Shannon and I believe this is quite important. I've noticed using E2. Using Universal detox, USLM 1. & Now USLM 2. I get GUT issues.
GUT issues including, Stomach acidity, Burning, bloating, feeling sick, heaviness Which is very Bad my bottom left stomach as well bottom right stomach. Yes I have been doctors many times got scans done all they recommend is stupid acid blockers which makes it worse. I also use oil on my stomach herbal cures which helps


I'm not blaming the subliminal but I've noticed I get it alot. So then I run MHS 5.5G instantly and within a week I am cured. I avoid takeaways I don't eat eggs. & I am quite cautious what I eat. I have been running USLM 2 for about 1 week. Only 1 Loop to test this and today I've got the issue again. It's been an USLM and MHS cycle for me which is anonying as i just want to focus on USLM 2.

Any suggestions/opinions Shannon please thanks.

Funny you mention this because this is the exact thing I have been experiencing lately. I haven't mentioned it because I've been known to have gastrointestinal issues quite frequently in the last few years, usually accompanied by malaise. I eat relatively well nowadays, but it is still happening. More so in the last two weeks. I'm assuming that I'm having difficulty digesting certain ingredients in my food.

I don't blame the sub. I'm guessing that there are certain safeties in place to prevent any negative physical effects. But in case there's not, the only thing I can think of is this being an energy sourcing issue. It takes energy to digest food, and I wonder if a sub would make your body redirect the energy from certain areas, including digestion in order to help execute the script, when in fact it would be better to prioritize digestion first. In this cycle, less energy going to digestion would mean less energy gained from food and therefore less energy going into digestion. And the cycle continues.

I am just speculating with the relatively little information I have.

[THolt]

This is for @Shannon and I believe this is quite important. I've noticed using E2. Using Universal detox, USLM 1. & Now USLM 2. I get GUT issues.
GUT issues including, Stomach acidity, Burning, bloating, feeling sick, heaviness Which is very Bad my bottom left stomach as well bottom right stomach. Yes I have been doctors many times got scans done all they recommend is stupid acid blockers which makes it worse. I also use oil on my stomach herbal cures which helps


I'm not blaming the subliminal but I've noticed I get it alot. So then I run MHS 5.5G instantly and within a week I am cured. I avoid takeaways I don't eat eggs. & I am quite cautious what I eat. I have been running USLM 2 for about 1 week. Only 1 Loop to test this and today I've got the issue again. It's been an USLM and MHS cycle for me which is anonying as i just want to focus on USLM 2.

Any suggestions/opinions Shannon please thanks.

Funny you mention this because this is the exact thing I have been experiencing lately. I haven't mentioned it because I've been known to have gastrointestinal issues quite frequently in the last few years, usually accompanied by malaise. I eat relatively well nowadays, but it is still happening. More so in the last two weeks. I'm assuming that I'm having difficulty digesting certain ingredients in my food.

I don't blame the sub. I'm guessing that there are certain safeties in place to prevent any negative physical effects. But in case there's not, the only thing I can think of is this being an energy sourcing issue. It takes energy to digest food, and I wonder if a sub would make your body redirect the energy from certain areas, including digestion in order to help execute the script, when in fact it would be better to prioritize digestion first. In this cycle, less energy going to digestion would mean less energy gained from food and therefore less energy going into digestion. And the cycle continues.

I am just speculating with the relatively little information I have.

I had the same thing when I ran SE earlier this year. It felt like I had a stomach ulcer but when I had tests done, nothing turned up. It eventually went away but it disrupted my daily activities.

[RTBoss]

Stress and fear wreak havoc on the GI.

[Hatman]

Stress and fear wreak havoc on the GI.

That's the most likely explanation in most cases

[Greenduck]

This is for @Shannon and I believe this is quite important. I've noticed using E2. Using Universal detox, USLM 1. & Now USLM 2. I get GUT issues.
GUT issues including, Stomach acidity, Burning, bloating, feeling sick, heaviness Which is very Bad my bottom left stomach as well bottom right stomach. Yes I have been doctors many times got scans done all they recommend is stupid acid blockers which makes it worse. I also use oil on my stomach herbal cures which helps


I'm not blaming the subliminal but I've noticed I get it alot. So then I run MHS 5.5G instantly and within a week I am cured. I avoid takeaways I don't eat eggs. & I am quite cautious what I eat. I have been running USLM 2 for about 1 week. Only 1 Loop to test this and today I've got the issue again. It's been an USLM and MHS cycle for me which is anonying as i just want to focus on USLM 2.

Any suggestions/opinions Shannon please thanks.

I have read that when your solar plexus chakra is stimulated and start to open up you can experience gut problems.

[DarkTempatation]

This is for @Shannon and I believe this is quite important. I've noticed using E2. Using Universal detox, USLM 1. & Now USLM 2. I get GUT issues.
GUT issues including, Stomach acidity, Burning, bloating, feeling sick, heaviness Which is very Bad my bottom left stomach as well bottom right stomach. Yes I have been doctors many times got scans done all they recommend is stupid acid blockers which makes it worse. I also use oil on my stomach herbal cures which helps


I'm not blaming the subliminal but I've noticed I get it alot. So then I run MHS 5.5G instantly and within a week I am cured. I avoid takeaways I don't eat eggs. & I am quite cautious what I eat. I have been running USLM 2 for about 1 week. Only 1 Loop to test this and today I've got the issue again. It's been an USLM and MHS cycle for me which is anonying as i just want to focus on USLM 2.

Any suggestions/opinions Shannon please thanks.

I have read that when your solar plecus chakra is stimulated and start to open up you can experience gut problema.

Interesting thank you.

[Broski]

Hey Shannon,

Depending on how the FRM3 goes in DMSI 3.3, is there a possibility that it may get even a further upgrade for LTU 5.5G?