Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[ncbeareatingman]

I just want to point out that upon using DMSI 3.1 in July 2017 after only 2 weeks, I got my first and only DMSI success. It did happen exactly as advertised.

I went to a wedding. I saw a cute brunette very early on and I remember imagining having sex with her and having the desire to have sex with the girl as I was looking at her.

Then, a series of "lucky" events, such as ending up on the seat next to her during the dinner. Of course, since I was attracted to her, I did flirt a bit with her.

It is as if, I took the conscious decision of wanting the girl and my subconscious mind did the work to make it happen.

1 week later, she found me on FB. Started to chat with me. Wanted to see me again. She did confess that she was masturbating several times per day thinking about me and she is being feeling that way since the wedding because of the way that I was looking at her (No idea how I did that exactly...)

That was the best friend with benefit that I have never had before. She knew that I was very busy so she was doing everything she could to accommodate me like she was renting a hotel room in the morning nearby my place. She was bringing a breakfast. All I had to do was to meet her, have sex with her and let her spoil me.

This relation ended up painfully. First, she knew that I was unavailable for anything else than some casual sex and at first she was fine with that. But She found me so extraordinaire that she ended up in love with me, wanted to have a kid from me and the break up has been painful.

Hence, in retrospect, I must confess that this made me freak out and I must have resisted DMSI since that moment to avoid the same kind of awkward situation. I have consciously made that realisation when I stopped using DMSI to give AM6 a try in July 2018.

Despite seeing a lot of women that I find very attractive. I have never looked again at a girl and telling to myself. I want to have this girl in my bed like I did with my first success.

but honestly, my first DMSI was fast, the best FWB relation where the girl was taking care of the logistic and was making it easy for me to just "come" see her. and it was exactly as advertised in the DMSI sales page.

Ding!! Bonus Round!! thank you for such GOOD NEWS. thats awesome!!

[Shannon]

Thank you Shannon for clarifying that. Much of my theory is now down the drain, which suits me fine.

I just want to say this about DMSI:

A.) The sales pages clearly states that it's experimental.

B.) Just because you haven't achieved the design goal with DMSI, doesn't mean others haven't. So is it DMSI, or is it you?

Even *I* haven't achieved design goal, unless you count my wife. I know why I haven't, and I have resisted each version up to this point. Shannon told me, many versions ago, that I may find ways to resist the entire 3.x line. But (!) I'm not going around blaming the program. He's working diligently on adjusting the program, with each successive version, to work for most everyone. As this happens, 6G comes closer to fruition. I'm happy to be a part of that, myself. Furthermore, the value I've received has far outweighed the investment.

I get value out of it too, I'm not saying I don't. How many times have I praised DMSI?

BUT, like you said, it's experimental which means: it's not working perfectly. YET, whenever someone has anything to say in that regard, it's all "it's your fault, not this highly experimental sub that isn't finished yet. No, that couldn't be it, it's all you." Bro, how does that even make sense?

The cool thing about the 180 phenomenon that I had with the 8.5 is that this same phenomenon has been happening for me with every installment of DMSI but it has gotten less and less bad with each version, bringing me closer and closer to sex. So it's obviously getting better.

Anyhow, all I'm trying to do is point out the flaws and suggest ways to overcome them.

I had this crazy idea that DMSI was only designed to get girls you already wanted, but Shannon says that's not the case so I can forget that theory. I'm not sorry I'm wrong on that because it renews my hope in the program. But again, I must stress that if DMSI needs me to learn PUA then it's not much of a tool. Therefore, it is my sincere hope that it will provide me with the vibe, calibration, and savvy needed to become a successful seducer of hot girls.

DMSI doesn't need you to learn PUA. If you feel that is the case, or believe that DMSI/OE led you to that, it is because that may have been the only way your subconscious could think of to advance to the goal. But there is nothing in DMSI that suggests to you to learn PUA, or demands or requires it. In fact I give very clear and specific instructions on how to become irresistibly sexually attractive without doing that.

[Shannon]

@CatMan We do not agree on some things, and you do not seem to understand what I was trying to point out with my referencing the story, but I'm tired and I'm not going to try to address them. I'll remove the references to it in my posts, and you remove the references to it in yours.

I'd like you to understand that I am not saying that DMSI will never get results for you and others like you. I believe that at least the last version or two can and will get results for you and others like you. But if I focus on making it work as well as possible for the majority, and even when I try to get as many people on board as that majority as possible, it will not be focused exactly on the specific things you personally need it to be focused on for it to work as well as it could if I was to focus it on you specifically.

[Shannon]

I just want to point out that upon using DMSI 3.1 in July 2017 after only 2 weeks, I got my first and only DMSI success. It did happen exactly as advertised.

I went to a wedding. I saw a cute brunette very early on and I remember imagining having sex with her and having the desire to have sex with the girl as I was looking at her.

Then, a series of "lucky" events, such as ending up on the seat next to her during the dinner. Of course, since I was attracted to her, I did flirt a bit with her.

It is as if, I took the conscious decision of wanting the girl and my subconscious mind did the work to make it happen.

1 week later, she found me on FB. Started to chat with me. Wanted to see me again. She did confess that she was masturbating several times per day thinking about me and she is being feeling that way since the wedding because of the way that I was looking at her (No idea how I did that exactly...)

That was the best friend with benefit that I have never had before. She knew that I was very busy so she was doing everything she could to accommodate me like she was renting a hotel room in the morning nearby my place. She was bringing a breakfast. All I had to do was to meet her, have sex with her and let her spoil me.

This relation ended up painfully. First, she knew that I was unavailable for anything else than some casual sex and at first she was fine with that. But She found me so extraordinaire that she ended up in love with me, wanted to have a kid from me and the break up has been painful.

Hence, in retrospect, I must confess that this made me freak out and I must have resisted DMSI since that moment to avoid the same kind of awkward situation. I have consciously made that realisation when I stopped using DMSI to give AM6 a try in July 2018.

Despite seeing a lot of women that I find very attractive. I have never looked again at a girl and telling to myself. I want to have this girl in my bed like I did with my first success.

but honestly, my first DMSI was fast, the best FWB relation where the girl was taking care of the logistic and was making it easy for me to just "come" see her. and it was exactly as advertised in the DMSI sales page.

This is useful information. We need to find a way to prevent them from going off the deep end if possible. This may not be possible; it may be something that you guys will have to learn to deal with. But this shows that the program does work, if executed.

[MasterEnki]

Yeah, pretty sure that everyone is irresistibly attractive to someone (or a small niche group of people).

While I wait for LTU 5.5g to come out, I’m consciously working on building a solid frame of “I’m a little weird. I’m a little different from what is considered popular. I have many things that I’m naturally inept at. I’m kinda socially awkward. But, I’m amazingly attractive to some people out there, and those people include women that would love to have sex with me. A very small niche group of women in the world would even pay me to have sex with me / have a chance to have sex with me, etc.”

The challenge is finding those people that naturally have amazing ‘chemistry’ with you / automatically ‘click’ with you. Though, I’m sure that manifestation will help heaps in finding / meeting those people.

[dissonance]

Not for nothing, but until you've had an abundant sex life how can you know it's not for you? The "I know what I want" can very easily just be the comfort zone. "This is what I'm familiar with therefore I'll stick to it instead of venturing outside of it". That's like saying you dislike a certain food you've never even tried. It's totally possible that the abundant sex life isn't for some people, but what I'm saying is how can you know for certain? Intuition or feeling? We all know how deceptive those can be. Not having a go at anyone in particular, it's just really easy to fall off the design goals of DMSI through self sabotage such as this.

I am going to have an abundant sex life, just with 1 person, and a DEEP INTENSE mind body soul sex/love connection. You could even say its even more abundant than a "player's" abundance, just abundance of a different sort. I've learned I prefer that type of abundance over quantity abundance with lots of not so deep connections. That's me though, not everyone will want this sort of deep intense mind body soul connection.

And to answer your question, I know for certain because I know myself. Also, I'm going through a spiritual awakening of sorts, and also, things have confirmed by a couple psychics (legit lightworkers who can read see and feel energy and consciousness and look into the akashic records, among other abilities), and last but not least, astrology.

[dissonance]

Thank you Shannon for clarifying that. Much of my theory is now down the drain, which suits me fine.

I just want to say this about DMSI:

A.) The sales pages clearly states that it's experimental.

B.) Just because you haven't achieved the design goal with DMSI, doesn't mean others haven't. So is it DMSI, or is it you?

Even *I* haven't achieved design goal, unless you count my wife. I know why I haven't, and I have resisted each version up to this point. Shannon told me, many versions ago, that I may find ways to resist the entire 3.x line. But (!) I'm not going around blaming the program. He's working diligently on adjusting the program, with each successive version, to work for most everyone. As this happens, 6G comes closer to fruition. I'm happy to be a part of that, myself. Furthermore, the value I've received has far outweighed the investment.

I get value out of it too, I'm not saying I don't. How many times have I praised DMSI?

BUT, like you said, it's experimental which means: it's not working perfectly. YET, whenever someone has anything to say in that regard, it's all "it's your fault, not this highly experimental sub that isn't finished yet. No, that couldn't be it, it's all you." Bro, how does that even make sense?

The cool thing about the 180 phenomenon that I had with the 8.5 is that this same phenomenon has been happening for me with every installment of DMSI but it has gotten less and less bad with each version, bringing me closer and closer to sex. So it's obviously getting better.

Anyhow, all I'm trying to do is point out the flaws and suggest ways to overcome them.

I had this crazy idea that DMSI was only designed to get girls you already wanted, but Shannon says that's not the case so I can forget that theory. I'm not sorry I'm wrong on that because it renews my hope in the program. But again, I must stress that if DMSI needs me to learn PUA then it's not much of a tool. Therefore, it is my sincere hope that it will provide me with the vibe, calibration, and savvy needed to become a successful seducer of hot girls.

DMSI doesn't need you to learn PUA. If you feel that is the case, or believe that DMSI/OE led you to that, it is because that may have been the only way your subconscious could think of to advance to the goal. But there is nothing in DMSI that suggests to you to learn PUA, or demands or requires it. In fact I give very clear and specific instructions on how to become irresistibly sexually attractive without doing that.

Definitely doesn't need PUA. I would talk to coworkers naturally without trying to seduce or game or anything like that, just normal everyday small talk or work talk or casual shootin' the shit for fun kinda thing, and they would clearly show signs of sexual attraction. Customers as well.

One of the most funny (to me) examples is a coworker who every time she comes up to me to say something (work related; i work in a restaurant), she gets really close and almost always pushes her breasts onto me. I've never actually shown any sexual interest in her (except for NOT shying away when she gets that physically close and in contact with me), but she was doing this from the moment she met me.

Almost all female coworkers literally have shown or do show attraction to me in some form or another, and I never use anything PUA on them.

[DarthXedonias]

I just want to point out that upon using DMSI 3.1 in July 2017 after only 2 weeks, I got my first and only DMSI success. It did happen exactly as advertised.

I went to a wedding. I saw a cute brunette very early on and I remember imagining having sex with her and having the desire to have sex with the girl as I was looking at her.

Then, a series of "lucky" events, such as ending up on the seat next to her during the dinner. Of course, since I was attracted to her, I did flirt a bit with her.

It is as if, I took the conscious decision of wanting the girl and my subconscious mind did the work to make it happen.

1 week later, she found me on FB. Started to chat with me. Wanted to see me again. She did confess that she was masturbating several times per day thinking about me and she is being feeling that way since the wedding because of the way that I was looking at her (No idea how I did that exactly...)

That was the best friend with benefit that I have never had before. She knew that I was very busy so she was doing everything she could to accommodate me like she was renting a hotel room in the morning nearby my place. She was bringing a breakfast. All I had to do was to meet her, have sex with her and let her spoil me.

This relation ended up painfully. First, she knew that I was unavailable for anything else than some casual sex and at first she was fine with that. But She found me so extraordinaire that she ended up in love with me, wanted to have a kid from me and the break up has been painful.

Hence, in retrospect, I must confess that this made me freak out and I must have resisted DMSI since that moment to avoid the same kind of awkward situation. I have consciously made that realisation when I stopped using DMSI to give AM6 a try in July 2018.

Despite seeing a lot of women that I find very attractive. I have never looked again at a girl and telling to myself. I want to have this girl in my bed like I did with my first success.

but honestly, my first DMSI was fast, the best FWB relation where the girl was taking care of the logistic and was making it easy for me to just "come" see her. and it was exactly as advertised in the DMSI sales page.

This is useful information. We need to find a way to prevent them from going off the deep end if possible. This may not be possible; it may be something that you guys will have to learn to deal with. But this shows that the program does work, if executed.

I have experienced this as well. When I met the one woman from the Philippines it was lots of sex all the time and she said she fell very much in "love" with me. Only thing is after I got back some of the arguments started happening every couple of days. Why? Because she kept on trying to convince me to give her a baby the next time I came over there. Even if the next time I wasn't going to be their permanently yet. She also mentioned that normally in a relationship she acts more shy and less affectionate but with me she said she changed and acted affectionate all the time.

It does make me think if you execute as expected that maybe it will trigger the "baby Rabies" phenomenon in a lot of women.

[lano1106]

This is useful information. We need to find a way to prevent them from going off the deep end if possible. This may not be possible; it may be something that you guys will have to learn to deal with. But this shows that the program does work, if executed.

My solution to this challenge has been to man up a bit more. Hence, I am on AM6 now...

[lano1106]

It does make me think if you execute as expected that maybe it will trigger the "baby Rabies" phenomenon in a lot of women.

I think you are on something. Biologically, procreate is the end goal of having sex.

If you come up as the most irresistible man sexually that she has ever met, it makes sense that she connects the dots that way...

[wolverine_i_am]

Regarding Catman, I just wanna add that I've been following his journal since the beginning. Even I've noticed in some posts from before where you've mentioned girls reacting to you differently. And you say you also get looks from girls every now and then, but you dismiss it cause according to you it is nothing. Looks do count for something. A girl wouldn't look at you if there's no interest or attraction. It's the beginning of a girl wanting something with you. May be far from the end goal, but it's not nothing. I get the feeling you ignore a lotta results, like Shannon said, cause in your mind it doesn't count if a girl didn't outright tell you she likes you, so you just dismiss it and say nothing happened. Or if an interaction with a girl went really well, you will ignore/dismiss the subtle positive things, because looking back you won't count anything as a result if it didn't end up in sex or at least a make out. You tend to focus more on the negatives than the positives.

This isn't an attack towards you. We all want you to succeed Catman. I'm pointing out that maybe the lack of optimism may be affecting you from getting more out of this thing.

[Kol]

I just want to point out that upon using DMSI 3.1 in July 2017 after only 2 weeks, I got my first and only DMSI success. It did happen exactly as advertised.

I went to a wedding. I saw a cute brunette very early on and I remember imagining having sex with her and having the desire to have sex with the girl as I was looking at her.

Then, a series of "lucky" events, such as ending up on the seat next to her during the dinner. Of course, since I was attracted to her, I did flirt a bit with her.

It is as if, I took the conscious decision of wanting the girl and my subconscious mind did the work to make it happen.

1 week later, she found me on FB. Started to chat with me. Wanted to see me again. She did confess that she was masturbating several times per day thinking about me and she is being feeling that way since the wedding because of the way that I was looking at her (No idea how I did that exactly...)

That was the best friend with benefit that I have never had before. She knew that I was very busy so she was doing everything she could to accommodate me like she was renting a hotel room in the morning nearby my place. She was bringing a breakfast. All I had to do was to meet her, have sex with her and let her spoil me.

This relation ended up painfully. First, she knew that I was unavailable for anything else than some casual sex and at first she was fine with that. But She found me so extraordinaire that she ended up in love with me, wanted to have a kid from me and the break up has been painful.

Hence, in retrospect, I must confess that this made me freak out and I must have resisted DMSI since that moment to avoid the same kind of awkward situation. I have consciously made that realisation when I stopped using DMSI to give AM6 a try in July 2018.

Despite seeing a lot of women that I find very attractive. I have never looked again at a girl and telling to myself. I want to have this girl in my bed like I did with my first success.

but honestly, my first DMSI was fast, the best FWB relation where the girl was taking care of the logistic and was making it easy for me to just "come" see her. and it was exactly as advertised in the DMSI sales page.

This is useful information. We need to find a way to prevent them from going off the deep end if possible. This may not be possible; it may be something that you guys will have to learn to deal with. But this shows that the program does work, if executed.

I have experienced this as well. When I met the one woman from the Philippines it was lots of sex all the time and she said she fell very much in "love" with me. Only thing is after I got back some of the arguments started happening every couple of days. Why? Because she kept on trying to convince me to give her a baby the next time I came over there. Even if the next time I wasn't going to be their permanently yet. She also mentioned that normally in a relationship she acts more shy and less affectionate but with me she said she changed and acted affectionate all the time.

It does make me think if you execute as expected that maybe it will trigger the "baby Rabies" phenomenon in a lot of women.

Yes, this 17 y/o has putted me in her phone as "my king" and tried to convince me to put her in my phone under the name "my queen" lol

Also, talking about babies, marriage, overt sexual talk and steering it that way, accusing me of getting a hard on while she was grinding her ass on me the first time she saw me. She hsd the whole thing planned out.

Very claimy. When I called her out on that, she didnt even deny that.

Fond memories lmao

[CatMan]

Thank you, Shannon.

I meant no disrespect. I admit I have huge gaps in knowledge in the area of women. I will take the words into consideration.

I still plan to use every version of the program! Until the last shell!

Thank you deeply. For everything.

[samba99]

I just want to point out that upon using DMSI 3.1 in July 2017 after only 2 weeks, I got my first and only DMSI success. It did happen exactly as advertised.

I went to a wedding. I saw a cute brunette very early on and I remember imagining having sex with her and having the desire to have sex with the girl as I was looking at her.

Then, a series of "lucky" events, such as ending up on the seat next to her during the dinner. Of course, since I was attracted to her, I did flirt a bit with her.

It is as if, I took the conscious decision of wanting the girl and my subconscious mind did the work to make it happen.

1 week later, she found me on FB. Started to chat with me. Wanted to see me again. She did confess that she was masturbating several times per day thinking about me and she is being feeling that way since the wedding because of the way that I was looking at her (No idea how I did that exactly...)

That was the best friend with benefit that I have never had before. She knew that I was very busy so she was doing everything she could to accommodate me like she was renting a hotel room in the morning nearby my place. She was bringing a breakfast. All I had to do was to meet her, have sex with her and let her spoil me.

This relation ended up painfully. First, she knew that I was unavailable for anything else than some casual sex and at first she was fine with that. But She found me so extraordinaire that she ended up in love with me, wanted to have a kid from me and the break up has been painful.

Hence, in retrospect, I must confess that this made me freak out and I must have resisted DMSI since that moment to avoid the same kind of awkward situation. I have consciously made that realisation when I stopped using DMSI to give AM6 a try in July 2018.

Despite seeing a lot of women that I find very attractive. I have never looked again at a girl and telling to myself. I want to have this girl in my bed like I did with my first success.

but honestly, my first DMSI was fast, the best FWB relation where the girl was taking care of the logistic and was making it easy for me to just "come" see her. and it was exactly as advertised in the DMSI sales page.

This is useful information. We need to find a way to prevent them from going off the deep end if possible. This may not be possible; it may be something that you guys will have to learn to deal with. But this shows that the program does work, if executed.

Shannon I think you should leave out this for us to deal with. I fear it may create confusion on the target. I have experienced similar results on 3.0 however it was both of us falling in love.