Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Determined]

So what is a good affirmation to use to help with dmsi?

"Subconscious mind, absorb all the suggestions from this subliminal and integrate them into the entirety of my being."

Great stuff anyone else have any more useful affirmations that one could use to help execute the goals if DMSI

You can make your own. All I do with mine is take into account what I'm listening to, what it is (a subliminal is set of instructions) and how I want it to affect me.

When I do any subconscious process work I do so along those lines. Like the old adage goes, you can give a man a fish...teach a man how to fish...

Good luck.

thought i overheard somebody that was using some kinda of affirmation to help them execute the program better?

What I said still holds. All I did was take a technique I learnt for using the subconscious mind to dissipate emotions instantly and re-phrase it into one which gets the sub to execute.

[ianmarconi]

What is B16?

[Raz]

What is B16?

http://www.subliminal-shop.com/faqs/what-is-beast/

[Shannon]

The subconscious is actually vastly more "conscious" than the "conscious" mind is. It understands everything the conscious mind understands, but in different ways, and it perceives time as a smear, not a "point of now", so it can know what the conscious mind is likely to do in what the conscious mind experiences as "the future". Trying to claim that it simply doesn't understand what the conscious mind wants is laughable in the extreme, since the conscious mind is using a set of explicit instructions that are specifically and painstakingly worded to be fully comprehended by the subconscious.

I will fiercely disagree about this one. When I was still playing self hypnosis tapes I clearly noticed how molding with the way of communication was impacting the effects. Like switching "I" for "You" or using feelings and emotions versus none. So it's clear that the way one chooses to approach his subconscious mind does matter. If my subconscious knew since the start what I was asking it to do my tests would have worked since the very first try, without the necessity of all that gymnastic. I didn't spend a decent amount of time studying that but still, that handful of experiments speak by themselves.

You are assuming a lot of knowledge and understanding of the subconscious that you clearly don't have. For one, the subconscious is very lazy, and will do the least it possibly can. For two, the parts of the subconscious that mist frequently react are very literal. Between these two things, without specific instruction, nothing will happen. It simply runs whatever instructions it has accepted as "operating system" and does nothing else. If you want to get a specific result, you have to make it understand that fact and then get it to execute.

A handful of experiments don't really tell you much, which is why I have been doing them almost continuously since 1992. And you are using rather simplistic thinking to come to your conclusions; you are tending to think in black and white, "If not X, then Y." That's not how this works. There are always reasons and options that are not obvious.

Oh well I think we should stop here because I can't possibly win against you and your years of experiences and experiments. I'm of a good faith and looking for the best for me but I do not resonate at all on a personal level with some of your views. My gut feelings say no, my brain says no, so what shall I do ? It's meaningless to continue. But I'm glad I spoke my mind at least.

You are welcome to disagree with me, as many do. But it is important that I present counterpoints for those reading. I believe you are misunderstanding some things, and that misunderstanding will only be magnified if I don't try to show you what I have come to know.

But all I can say is that since I changed my view on my subconscious mind I've received clear feedback from it, the very first day I asserted my authority and control over my thoughts and beliefs. This tell me it's the way to go.

Being literal, it does what you tell it to, once it understands what you want. Unless it resists.

[Oversoul]

Does dmsi have a module that helps you keep your freedom even if you are with (a) girl(s)? I want to be able to be free and not be bothered by girls when i cant be bothered?

[Shannon]

Does dmsi have a module that helps you keep your freedom even if you are with (a) girl(s)? I want to be able to be free and not be bothered by girls when i cant be bothered?

DMSI is aimed at making you irresistibly sexually attractive and getting them to respond to that. The rest is up to you.

[THolt]

I think that DMSI is overloaded with modules. SubC is tired. We can see it in most posts and, btw, Shannon himself most time "tired, exhausted and etc". I conducted an experiment: stopped shop's subliminals and changed to other vendor: its works faster (if not saying instantly) and I already got some unusual one-stands in recent time.

The subconscious is lazy. It wants to do the least effort possible. It needs to be constantly prodded to do what is desired. And it needs to be directed to do it to the right degree.

Shannon isn't running DMSI. Shannon has been running MIR for almost a month now because he's been sick three times back to back in a month. You know what happens when you have an infection and you run MIR? It does it's job, and it uses all available resources and energy to fight the infection, and in doing so, exhausts you according to the severity of the infection and/or the availability of fuel.

Your experiment is about like trying to use a 4G or 5G sub from IML. You may get better results and you may get faster results, but if that is the case, it's because the sub isn't pushing as deeply and it isn't pushing as efficiently. In other words, the subconscious does not perceive a threat to itself because it is not being asked to do something fully, or as major, etc. It will cooperate more in that case because it is less threatened, because it is also more able to manipulate and limit the results. And it will do exactly that.

5.5G is trying to push through limitations and resistance. It is trying to achieve the whole goal, all the way, and do so now. So for those who respond to that with fear, of course the subconscious is going to cooperate more with something less powerful that therefore threatens it less because it can better manipulate and limit it according to its own desires. Fortunately, not everyone experiences that. Believe me, it would be much easier for me to go back to building 5G stuff.

The tiredness comes from the internal battles going on between the fearful parts of the subconscious and the cooperative parts. That takes a lot of energy. And once we get the technology to the point where those battles aren't happening, you'll see a lot less exhaustion.

BUT, Shannon's subs helped me to solve some VERY MAJOY things thats why I writing this post now instead of just enjoy other products.

Once again, my point is: subC is overloaded with intentions from multiple modules. Resistance is not an excuse here, guys. Most guys have an resistance without subs, so telling that someone "is resisting the script"... hey, "using subs & not using subs" is just the same, right?. And you know that.

Dimitry came to this same conclusion. But you are both not in possession of all the facts that I am operating with knowledge of. The fact is, I have not yet found the limit for how much I can throw at it and have it be able to function. Every version of Beast adds a lot of complex script to the program, pages of it. Beast 16 isn't even finished being developed yet, and the script is very nearly 150,000 words long. Yet Beast not only works, but it works faster than I can even explain. The script hasn't even been heard once fully by the time it has not only kicked in, but is well on its way to achieving the goal in many cases.

This theory that the subconscious is tired because the script is bloated or overloaded is not correct. Everything that goes into the script is something that will help achieve the goals. Sometimes I add things I am not sure will work, but if they do, they will help. Sometimes they don;t, and I depricate them. But the script is not overloaded or bloated. Believe me, DMSI isn't even 25% of Beast in length and complexity, and beast works quite well, thanks.

P.S. Let's strip DMSI 3.3 to most needed and actual modules and lets see whats happens. I'm most interested to Shannon's DMSI finally starts work as intended.

How about we instead add the things that will adjust 3.3 in the directions we need to go to correct for the deficiencies and failings of 3.2? Because if you wanted a stripped down version, all you have to do is go use V1. Stripping out what is there will not help, when everything there is there to perform a critical function. Would you function better if we removed your heart? Lungs? Brain? Blood?

No insult guys.

No insult taken, if that's what you mean.

Dimitry came to this same conclusion. But you are both not in possession of all the facts that I am operating with knowledge of. The fact is, I have not yet found the limit for how much I can throw at it and have it be able to function. Every version of Beast adds a lot of complex script to the program, pages of it. Beast 16 isn't even finished being developed yet, and the script is very nearly 150,000 words long. Yet Beast not only works, but it works faster than I can even explain. The script hasn't even been heard once fully by the time it has not only kicked in, but is well on its way to achieving the goal in many cases.

How long is the Beast track?
Sounds amazing if you can achieve the goal before the script is heard. Will this be the norm for 6G programs in terms of being this fast acting? I know this wouldn’t likely happen with programs like BAMM since that is a long term goal.

[Oversoul]

Hi Shannon,

Any idea on what additional scripts you will be including in 3.3? Thanks

[Jake2015]

Hi all

I checked out what Beast is and honestly im lost but you all seem so excited by B16 so im assuming its a big massive leap forward.

That being said, if im correct I recall somewhere Shannon saying in the past that there is SO much that hasnt made it even now into 3.2 of DMSI.

Im unaware of what all this good stuff is, but is there anything in there that can enable us to execute more of the script and execute for a longer time too?

I feel and I could be wrong but that with many of the subs, for those that the subs work for, work for a limited time and then the effects disappear. If im wrong then let me know as im just trying to remain hopeful for the future.

thanks

[THolt]

Hi all

I checked out what Beast is and honestly im lost but you all seem so excited by B16 so im assuming its a big massive leap forward.

That being said, if im correct I recall somewhere Shannon saying in the past that there is SO much that hasnt made it even now into 3.2 of DMSI.

Im unaware of what all this good stuff is, but is there anything in there that can enable us to execute more of the script and execute for a longer time too?

I feel and I could be wrong but that with many of the subs, for those that the subs work for, work for a limited time and then the effects disappear. If im wrong then let me know as im just trying to remain hopeful for the future.

thanks

Once Beast hits design goal, Shannon will mine and extract the tech from it and put it into the Skeleton script. This will take a lot of time but it is a necessary step. Once this process is complete, 6G will be born. It will be worth the wait. As frustratingly long as this process has been, I feel we are getting closer.

[Jake2015]

Hi all

I checked out what Beast is and honestly im lost but you all seem so excited by B16 so im assuming its a big massive leap forward.

That being said, if im correct I recall somewhere Shannon saying in the past that there is SO much that hasnt made it even now into 3.2 of DMSI.

Im unaware of what all this good stuff is, but is there anything in there that can enable us to execute more of the script and execute for a longer time too?

I feel and I could be wrong but that with many of the subs, for those that the subs work for, work for a limited time and then the effects disappear. If im wrong then let me know as im just trying to remain hopeful for the future.

thanks

Once Beast hits design goal, Shannon will mine and extract the tech from it and put it into the Skeleton script. This will take a lot of time but it is a necessary step. Once this process is complete, 6G will be born. It will be worth the wait. As frustratingly long as this process has been, I feel we are getting closer.

But THolt will 6G a big difference to the current 5.5G of 3.2?

I myself have been executing the no fap so thats great but when I read journals I see only a few executing much and many others still getting no where or am I reading the wrong journals lol

I just want my subC to execute it all !!!

[Kol]

Jake, that lest sentence starts it all for me overall. Genuinly wanting it.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon...hows da life looking man, especially how is it looking for Ultra Success being Built in 5.5 G by summer's end,if not sooner? I know you dont give exact dates and related,but does the abouve sound like a reasonable time,say by summer's end? Late August,very early September for U.S.? Keith.

[Shannon]

I think that DMSI is overloaded with modules. SubC is tired. We can see it in most posts and, btw, Shannon himself most time "tired, exhausted and etc". I conducted an experiment: stopped shop's subliminals and changed to other vendor: its works faster (if not saying instantly) and I already got some unusual one-stands in recent time.

The subconscious is lazy. It wants to do the least effort possible. It needs to be constantly prodded to do what is desired. And it needs to be directed to do it to the right degree.

Shannon isn't running DMSI. Shannon has been running MIR for almost a month now because he's been sick three times back to back in a month. You know what happens when you have an infection and you run MIR? It does it's job, and it uses all available resources and energy to fight the infection, and in doing so, exhausts you according to the severity of the infection and/or the availability of fuel.

Your experiment is about like trying to use a 4G or 5G sub from IML. You may get better results and you may get faster results, but if that is the case, it's because the sub isn't pushing as deeply and it isn't pushing as efficiently. In other words, the subconscious does not perceive a threat to itself because it is not being asked to do something fully, or as major, etc. It will cooperate more in that case because it is less threatened, because it is also more able to manipulate and limit the results. And it will do exactly that.

5.5G is trying to push through limitations and resistance. It is trying to achieve the whole goal, all the way, and do so now. So for those who respond to that with fear, of course the subconscious is going to cooperate more with something less powerful that therefore threatens it less because it can better manipulate and limit it according to its own desires. Fortunately, not everyone experiences that. Believe me, it would be much easier for me to go back to building 5G stuff.

The tiredness comes from the internal battles going on between the fearful parts of the subconscious and the cooperative parts. That takes a lot of energy. And once we get the technology to the point where those battles aren't happening, you'll see a lot less exhaustion.

BUT, Shannon's subs helped me to solve some VERY MAJOY things thats why I writing this post now instead of just enjoy other products.

Once again, my point is: subC is overloaded with intentions from multiple modules. Resistance is not an excuse here, guys. Most guys have an resistance without subs, so telling that someone "is resisting the script"... hey, "using subs & not using subs" is just the same, right?. And you know that.

Dimitry came to this same conclusion. But you are both not in possession of all the facts that I am operating with knowledge of. The fact is, I have not yet found the limit for how much I can throw at it and have it be able to function. Every version of Beast adds a lot of complex script to the program, pages of it. Beast 16 isn't even finished being developed yet, and the script is very nearly 150,000 words long. Yet Beast not only works, but it works faster than I can even explain. The script hasn't even been heard once fully by the time it has not only kicked in, but is well on its way to achieving the goal in many cases.

This theory that the subconscious is tired because the script is bloated or overloaded is not correct. Everything that goes into the script is something that will help achieve the goals. Sometimes I add things I am not sure will work, but if they do, they will help. Sometimes they don;t, and I depricate them. But the script is not overloaded or bloated. Believe me, DMSI isn't even 25% of Beast in length and complexity, and beast works quite well, thanks.

P.S. Let's strip DMSI 3.3 to most needed and actual modules and lets see whats happens. I'm most interested to Shannon's DMSI finally starts work as intended.

How about we instead add the things that will adjust 3.3 in the directions we need to go to correct for the deficiencies and failings of 3.2? Because if you wanted a stripped down version, all you have to do is go use V1. Stripping out what is there will not help, when everything there is there to perform a critical function. Would you function better if we removed your heart? Lungs? Brain? Blood?

No insult guys.

No insult taken, if that's what you mean.

Dimitry came to this same conclusion. But you are both not in possession of all the facts that I am operating with knowledge of. The fact is, I have not yet found the limit for how much I can throw at it and have it be able to function. Every version of Beast adds a lot of complex script to the program, pages of it. Beast 16 isn't even finished being developed yet, and the script is very nearly 150,000 words long. Yet Beast not only works, but it works faster than I can even explain. The script hasn't even been heard once fully by the time it has not only kicked in, but is well on its way to achieving the goal in many cases.

How long is the Beast track?
Sounds amazing if you can achieve the goal before the script is heard. Will this be the norm for 6G programs in terms of being this fast acting? I know this wouldn’t likely happen with programs like BAMM since that is a long term goal.

Beast is built as a standard 60 minute track. I could also build it as a 30 minute track, but it makes calculating ASRB easier to build it as a 60 minute track.

The best theory I have to explain how it starts doing what it is doing before it's all even heard once is P6. But the goal of Beast is such that it will not be a good measuring stick for other goals in terms of starting to achieve then before it's even heard once in the sense that I am using that statement.

P6 is as optimized as I can make it, and it is already in DMSI 3.2. P6 will affect the user according to their usage patterns of the program, personality, resistance and what the goal is.