Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Shannon]

Man, I am so hungry all the time. I need more energy!! More Food!!

Im eating alot of junk and craving alot of SUGAR!!! I shouldnt be but I am

My hair is going grey too but no idea if its DMSI (as read some had grey due to resistance) or if its just natural hence never mentioned it before.

The eating junk food and sugar is a reaction to increased fear and very likely resistance to the goals of the program. If DMSI is having the effect on you of causing grey hair then you either got that from 3.1, and 3.2 is working to reverse that, or the both of those (sugar cravings and gray hair) are signs of reversal resistance.

[Shannon]

Contemplating switching to e2 to heal from the pain of losing someone, but i wonder if staying on 3.2 would be better?

3.2-A will very likely be a much more powerful healing option, and if that loss is impeding the goals of DMSI, it will be dealt with aggressively.

I suggest you do E2 for a while, as dealing with a loss like that is not the time to be force marching yourself to sex.

[DarkPlouf]

I honestly haven't noticed much either but i've only been using the program for a week. Is it really necessary to completely abstain from masturbation? I understand not watching porn but is there something in the program which commands the sub-conscious to avoid masturbation?

If this is true then does masturbation prevent the entirety of the script from successfully reprogramming the subconscious?

Going for such long periods without masturbation may lead to embarrassing premature ejaculation during sex when it comes. I understand if you are getting a lot of sex then masturbation is not necessary but if the sex isn't there wouldn't it just lead to more frustration and neediness?

When you don't masturbate, you accumulate testosterone and sexual energy. You transmute that into achieving things you want, for example, sex. Personally, I find a lot more girls attracted to me when I don't masturbate, because they can sense my energy. The aura expands and hits more people when you retain your semen. No it's not placebo - it's real stuff. So if you ask if it's necessary to abstain from masturbation? Well there are more benefits to abstain than to masturbate. You don't need to abstain, but it just helps more.

I masturbated last Thursday before my date, that got rid of my neediness and I got laid at the end of the night and I had a lot more stamina, so I don't completely agree with your theory but I guess people are different.

It is just a question of balance. If you tend to suffer from premature ejaculation, releasing some pressure before a sexual encounter can definitely help.

Science has demonstrated that ejaculation had minimal influence on testosterone (Just Google 'ejaculation testosterone' to find content talking about that)

Also, it is healthy to ejaculate regularly to reduce prostate cancer risks. Doctors says you should do it about 4 times a week. Also, consider that the various male sexual glans are like a muscle. You must use your plumbing for them to be in shape and awake. It is like the adage saying that the appetite comes by eating...

Masturbation and porn watching will be a problem if it becomes an addiction and a way from avoiding having sexual encounters.

Abstinence do eshave an effect on libido that I like. When I feel horny, it does motivate me to take action. So I leverage that effect to my advantage but abstinence over about a week, in my experience, it does not continue to build up the sex drive/motivation to have sex...

Agreed with most things here. From my experience I can say that once every 5 - 7 days gives you a good energy build up and doesn't lower the energy too much after release.

That nofap stuff is highly personal. However, some people don't even want to try it before making up their minds. I too was thinking before that jerking off once in a while was okay. Until I tried nofap for more than 60days. Now I can't just go back at all and now I know how harmful it was for me. That was really self-destructive...The benefits outweigh by far the few minutes of delusional pleasure you would get by fapping. Just the fact that life became infinitely more pleasurable is priceless. I do more in less time and everything is fun. I have that stupid smile all the time and everything seems more and more enjoyable.
Idk about the benefits of nofap regarding sex and women as I couldn't care less at all, but my mood is great and life seems more easy.

So I think people should try at least. As it is very personal you don't know what you might get from it.

[Shannon]

As long as your beliefs conflict with the goals of DMSI, you will resist it. As long as you believe that you have to chase to get tail, you will be stuck believing you are displaying lower value while you are in fact classing yourself, at best, as being "Level 2" instead of Level 1. Just because a lot of guys can't naturally get attention without action is not to say that the top 1% of the top 1% can't. What you're trying to do is be that level 2 or whatever guy, who is successful within his level. What DMSI is trying to do is turn you into that Level 1 guy you refuse to believe exists.

Brad Pitt walks into a bar. How many women does he have to game to go out to his car and get his dick wet?

Nicholas Cage. Elvis Presley. Michael Jordan. John F. Kennedy. Justin Beiber. George Clooney. Will Smith. Johnny Depp. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Tom Cruise. Robert Downey Jr. Ashton Kutcher. Channing Tatum. Frank Sinatra. Tiger Woods. Leonardo DiCaprio. Eminem. John Wayne. All of these guys, and many more, could answer with...

Zero.

It helps that everyone you listed there is a celebrity and are mostly household names and command extremely high social status. What about a guy who isn't popular and well known outside of his own friends and acquaintances? Sure he may be extremely attractive and have high personal value and will get a lot of looks from women but he is and unknown variable to most people. It doesn't matter how strong your sexual energy is, the society conditioned thinking that 99% of the female are ruled by will prevent them from making first contact with you, maybe unless they are extremely confident themselves and are willing to risk breaking the conditioned rules that they have programmed with. But that is an exceptional situation.

If you wish to fail, by all means, do continue to believe that. You are welcome to your failure if you want it that bad. In fact once I release DMSI final, whoever still refuses to execute will have my full support in failing, and I will cheer them on. I am getting tired of fighting you guys for what you say you want to achieve, while all you do is come up with more and more reasons to fail, why you can't, why DMSI can't, why the status quo must never change.

If on the other hand you actually do want to achieve the goals of DMSI, then you will naturally recognize yourself limiting beliefs and how you are insisting on them, instead of changing them to "anything is possible" and going based on that.

By the way, it is true that anything is possible, but first you have to unlock that prison cell of your limiting beliefs and step out of it.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon,

A friend wants to quit smoking and i told her about Subs.

But i do not understand the difference between "Stop Smoking Forever! Version 5.1 Six Stage Set (5th Generation, Type B/C/D Hybrid)" & "Stop Smoking Forever 7.0 5G Single Stage".

What is the difference? (except the price). Is the one more effective than the other one?

Thank you in advance

SSF V5.1 and V7 differ in the following ways:

• V5.1 is a six stage set, whereas V7 is a single stage program.
  
• This means that V5.1 will step you up to the goal's achievement, and help you pace your journey of 6 months using the program by separating the program into these staged steps.
  
• By doing so, we prevent the possibility of the subconscious from becoming bored with the same script for more than 3 months, and thereafter ignoring it instead of executing. Some personalities do this.
  
• V5.1 is a 6 stage 5G, meaning it costs more.
  
• V7 attempts to pack V5.1 plus upgrades into a single stage. This allows me to charge less for it, but you lose the staged stepping up effect, which seems to be a big part of why 5.1 worked so well. 7.0 seems to work less well as a result for some people.
  

So in a nutshell:

V5.1 is older and doesn't have quite as fancy a script, but the way it is built (six stage) actually means that we have had more reports of success with it than V7. V5.1 is more expensive, but it works better than V7.

I will be correcting this issue in V8, but I am not building V8 until 6G comes along.

[Superman]

I ask because i read in some posts about phones being a mono speaker but i think thats only when using it without headphones?

Iphone has only one speaker, so it is mono but it still contains both channels which makes it better than pure mono. But if you use headphones then you get real stereo.

It depends which iPhone you're talking about. They've had stereo speakers for a while now. There is only one speaker grill on the bottom but they amplify the earpiece speaker and it acts as the second speaker. So it technically does have stereo sound.

[Ymiraku]

How about instead of coming up with reasons that youre going to fail you come up with reasons why you're going to succeed?

It's seriously like everyone here is deadset on proving that they're failures so that DMSI is also a failure.

You bought the damned subliminal, how about helping it give you your money's worth? Stop reinforcing your doubts and start shaping your beliefs. Be positive.

Where in my post did I try to prove that I am a failure? I was not highlighting my doubts I was simply pointing out a fact. Do you deny that social conditioning has affected the way women respond to taking the lead when it comes to random strangers?

The subconscious rules the conscious mind. Thoughts arise from the subconscious mind into the conscious mind based on your conditioning and experiences in life. If the program is so successful at reprogramming the subconscious then it will work to change our core beliefs regarding what is possible and you really won't have to do anything on a conscious thought level other than allow the change.

[josh84]

Hi, its an android htc one plus 3 phone 2016

[Shannon]

I ask because i read in some posts about phones being a mono speaker but i think thats only when using it without headphones?

Iphone has only one speaker, so it is mono but it still contains both channels which makes it better than pure mono. But if you use headphones then you get real stereo.

It depends which iPhone you're talking about. They've had stereo speakers for a while now. There is only one speaker grill on the bottom but they amplify the earpiece speaker and it acts as the second speaker. So it technically does have stereo sound.

Unless each channel is being expressed from a separate speaker, both channels doesn't matter. It will either give you part of the audio with mono, or cancel out the dimensional audio effect with both channels coming from a single source. Technically doesn't cut it.

[Shawn]

I ask because i read in some posts about phones being a mono speaker but i think thats only when using it without headphones?

Iphone has only one speaker, so it is mono but it still contains both channels which makes it better than pure mono. But if you use headphones then you get real stereo.

It depends which iPhone you're talking about. They've had stereo speakers for a while now. There is only one speaker grill on the bottom but they amplify the earpiece speaker and it acts as the second speaker. So it technically does have stereo sound.

You are correct, iPhone 7 and later seem to have stereo speaker in the way you describe. But anything before has only one speaker to my knowledge.

[Shawn]

Unless each channel is being expressed from a separate speaker, both channels doesn't matter. It will either give you part of the audio with mono, or cancel out the dimensional audio effect with both channels coming from a single source. Technically doesn't cut it.

The second option seem to be the case here.

[Nox]

How about instead of coming up with reasons that youre going to fail you come up with reasons why you're going to succeed?

It's seriously like everyone here is deadset on proving that they're failures so that DMSI is also a failure.

You bought the damned subliminal, how about helping it give you your money's worth? Stop reinforcing your doubts and start shaping your beliefs. Be positive.

Where in my post did I try to prove that I am a failure? I was not highlighting my doubts I was simply pointing out a fact. Do you deny that social conditioning has affected the way women respond to taking the lead when it comes to random strangers?

The subconscious rules the conscious mind. Thoughts arise from the subconscious mind into the conscious mind based on your conditioning and experiences in life. If the program is so successful at reprogramming the subconscious then it will work to change our core beliefs regarding what is possible and you really won't have to do anything on a conscious thought level other than allow the change.

1) it isn't a fact. I've had women approach me for sex quite blatantly and I'm not what most people would consider celebrity status or desirable in modern society. I'm not going to enter into a game of yes or no, as you're simply doing the exact same thing I said to stop doing. Stop pretending you know what reality is and how it operates. You don't. So how about you start being positive and make a conscious decision to change your beliefs and help the subliminal work.

2) the subconscious doesn't rule the conscious mind. It influences it strongly and has a major impact on helping you shape reality, but it doesnt rule it.

[wolverine_i_am]

That nofap stuff is highly personal. However, some people don't even want to try it before making up their minds. I too was thinking before that jerking off once in a while was okay. Until I tried nofap for more than 60days. Now I can't just go back at all and now I know how harmful it was for me. That was really self-destructive...The benefits outweigh by far the few minutes of delusional pleasure you would get by fapping. Just the fact that life became infinitely more pleasurable is priceless. I do more in less time and everything is fun. I have that stupid smile all the time and everything seems more and more enjoyable.
Idk about the benefits of nofap regarding sex and women as I couldn't care less at all, but my mood is great and life seems more easy.

So I think people should try at least. As it is very personal you don't know what you might get from it.

I agree that you never really know what the benefits are, until you do it for at least 2-3 months. I'm 4 months in now, and life is just much more amazing.

The problem with science and medicine is that you can't trust what they are saying. They invented the myth that masturbation is good for you and that not masturbating increases your chances of prostate cancer. But these propaganda are designed to trick you and to prevent you from your true potential.

[Shannon]

How about instead of coming up with reasons that youre going to fail you come up with reasons why you're going to succeed?

It's seriously like everyone here is deadset on proving that they're failures so that DMSI is also a failure.

You bought the damned subliminal, how about helping it give you your money's worth? Stop reinforcing your doubts and start shaping your beliefs. Be positive.

Where in my post did I try to prove that I am a failure? I was not highlighting my doubts I was simply pointing out a fact. Do you deny that social conditioning has affected the way women respond to taking the lead when it comes to random strangers?

If I toss a coin in the air and it lands on tails 6 times in a row, does that mean the odds are any different the next toss that it will land on tails again? No. Every event is independent.

If you have experienced something as being true consistently in the past, and it is true now, does that mean it cannot be changed in the future? No. But bu insisting on the past (you guys' favorite logical fallacy, apparently) you limit yourself to not just experiencing, but perpetuating the past you insist must happen again.

Social conditioning is what it is. That can be changed. Do you really think I would spend more than a year building and developing DMSI while pulling out hair I don't even have if I did not know for a fact that that was true?

The subconscious rules the conscious mind.

False. The subconscious mind strongly influences the conscious mind when it is trying to achieve a goal and the conscious mind is not interfering with its achievement of that goal. When the conscious mind decides to do otherwise, it is much stronger and faster and more obvious an influence than the subconscious. The difference is, the subconscious never stops trying, as it needs no rest. The conscious mind gets easily distracted, bored, needs sleep, can't multitask for shit by comparison, forgets easily, etc. Thus, the mind in control is the one focusing.

Thoughts arise from the subconscious mind into the conscious mind based on your conditioning and experiences in life.

That would be true if you did not state it as an absolute. Thoughts arise from both the conscious and subconscious minds. If that was not so, mathematics would never have been discovered, since the intuitive subconscious cannot comprehend absolutes, logic and mathematics. If that was true, you could not work out a challenge in your conscious mind by trying to.

If the program is so successful at reprogramming the subconscious then it will work to change our core beliefs regarding what is possible and you really won't have to do anything on a conscious thought level other than allow the change.

If human beings were as simple as you posit, then my job would have been done 15 years ago. But it's not. I'm still here plugging away trying to figure out how to get you all to cooperate with what you want to do enough to spend $220+ to accomplish.

The program is as successful as you allow it to be. It is, for the millionth time, a set of instructions. You choose to execute, ignore, resist, etc. My job is to cause you to choose to cooperate, without taking away free will. That is about like trying to tightrope walk from the top of the empire state building to a neighboring building on a human hair. It's taking me a long time to accomplish because of that.

Musinderstandings and erroroneous beliefs don't help.