Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol.9

[Shannon]

Shannon,

Congratulations on the upcoming release of DMSI.

I’m curious about one thing: how does DMSI approach improving sex itself, if at all?

I can see there’s a lot of work focused on the pre-sex stage, but I wonder whether changing the subconscious belief around sexual ability could have an even broader effect. If someone genuinely believes they’re great in bed, feels confident sexually, and actually enjoys sex, I’d imagine that alone could dramatically reduce fear and anxiety responses while also improving their overall sense of attractiveness.

I say this from personal experience. Once I developed real confidence in the bedroom, I noticed a significant change not only in how attractive I felt, but also in the response I received from women in public. It seemed like that confidence carried over far beyond the bedroom.

DMSI is an extremely long and complex script.  Once it adds FRM, it becomes 25% longer still.  (Yes, FRM v6.1 is very long and complex by itself.)  I therefore cannot know the answer to your question with certainty because I do not have the script memorized, and nobody on earth could claim to do so without a flawless photographic memory, which would leave a small handful of people who will never read it anyway.

However, I believe I remember that DMSI 6.0 is focused on getting you past that sort of issue, and it includes the FRM as well.

[Bignoise]

Shannon, can you think in the possibility for the people paying the $850 to have access to the 4 versions of DMSI?
Like… right now I’m interested in one version, but that can change in the future. Paying for another version of the same program at these prices is not happening.
Just an idea. It will make some us happy and I think you won’t be losing money that way.

[Have at ye]

Shannon, can you think in the possibility for the people paying the $850 to have access to the 4 versions of DMSI?
Like… right now I’m interested in one version, but that can change in the future. Paying for another version of the same program at these prices is not happening.
Just an idea. It will make some us happy and I think you won’t be losing money that way.

I actually pre-ordered two versions (C and B), so yes, Shannon would be losing money.

[Bignoise]

Shannon, can you think in the possibility for the people paying the $850 to have access to the 4 versions of DMSI?
Like… right now I’m interested in one version, but that can change in the future. Paying for another version of the same program at these prices is not happening.
Just an idea. It will make some us happy and I think you won’t be losing money that way.

I actually pre-ordered two versions (C and B), so yes, Shannon would be losing money.

Traitor! 

[Have at ye]

I actually pre-ordered two versions (C and B), so yes, Shannon would be losing money.

Traitor! 

Nah, I just kinda enjoy giving Shannon money for all his work.

I treat it as a bit of an investment in future developments. F. in. I'm having my fingers crossed for an OSC + US + LM (+ maybe DRS v3) combo-sub.

[Shannon]

Shannon, can you think in the possibility for the people paying the $850 to have access to the 4 versions of DMSI?
Like… right now I’m interested in one version, but that can change in the future. Paying for another version of the same program at these prices is not happening.
Just an idea. It will make some us happy and I think you won’t be losing money that way.

So you want me to just give you four different titles for the price of one?  Maybe if I made all four titles doing the work of one, that would make sense.  But I did not, I cannot, and that is not how you get people to be incentivized to work, never mind do the high level work I am doing here.  

You don't think I'd be losing money because you didn't make them, and you apparently don't think time is money.  Even though all of these have relatively similar scripts, building them requires a huge amount of work which must be replicated for each one, and then comes the quality control checks, and the descriptions, and the calculation of usage patterns, and and and... you never see what it takes for me to script one of these, never mind build it.  Quality control checks have dozens of variables that must be checked by hand, and they are brutally specific, meticulous and tedious to do.  Calculating usage patterns is a PITA on the best of days, and rarely do I get it done for even a single program in less than 3 days anymore.

All this requires time, effort, extreme attention to detail, energy, effort, electricity, disk space, backup disk space, bandwidth, and on and on.  It would be absurd in the extreme for you to say that if you understood what I put into making just one of these.  That's why they're $825 (UHDA) or $950 (MDA) a pop!

So I will have to politely decline.  Just be careful choosing which one you want to get, or better yet, subscribe for a month to each one before deciding.

[Shannon]

Traitor! 

Nah, I just kinda enjoy giving Shannon money for all his work.

I treat it as a bit of an investment in future developments. F. in. I'm having my fingers crossed for an OSC + US + LM (+ maybe DRS v3) combo-sub.

When the queue is unloaded... that sounds do-able.

[Have at ye]

Nah, I just kinda enjoy giving Shannon money for all his work.

I treat it as a bit of an investment in future developments. F. in. I'm having my fingers crossed for an OSC + US + LM (+ maybe DRS v3) combo-sub.

When the queue is unloaded... that sounds do-able.

Great, that's what I was hoping for with 6.5G tech magic. You could call it "Success Optima" or somesuch. I'll try to remember to lobby for it some more once you've got less on your plate.

[Catman]

DMSI is an extremely long and complex script.  Once it adds FRM, it becomes 25% longer still.  (Yes, FRM v6.1 is very long and complex by itself.)  I therefore cannot know the answer to your question with certainty because I do not have the script memorized, and nobody on earth could claim to do so without a flawless photographic memory, which would leave a small handful of people who will never read it anyway.

However, I believe I remember that DMSI 6.0 is focused on getting you past that sort of issue, and it includes the FRM as well.

Hello @Shannon, congrats on upcoming DMSI, fantastic news!

I saw you reference FRM V6.1 here, is that because that is the FRM that is in the current version, of course? I know the "5 Series" has FRM V6.1. 

Because I had assumed FRM would've been improved and updated since this release of FRM, for the brand new DMSI V6.0-C.

Can you talk about some of the changes, keeping in mind being a public place of course, that you've made for DMSI V6.0-C?

I'm looking forward to DRS V3 inside it as well.

Thank you for your time, @Shannon!

[Rois83]

Hi Shannon,

Is there subconscious boredom for shields like DRS? If so, for how long should be the break?

And how does it handle family stuff where there's more connection?

Thank you!

[Have at ye]

Hi Shannon,

Is there subconscious boredom for shields like DRS? If so, for how long should be the break?

And how does it handle family stuff where there's more connection?

Thank you!

I can't answer the first question because I haven't experienced any with a shielding program, TBH. Maybe Shannon can answer.

On the family front, it deals with family members extremely well - my relations with my immediate family have actually improved ever since I've started using DRS v3. They did make some noise for a couple of days, but after that - they started acting way more *normal* around me, which is very welcome, since they're a buncha crazy people.

[Tholt]

A combined OSC US LM sub would be awesome but I wonder if combining the three would dilute their total effect as opposed if they were stand alone.

Looking forward to this

[dweller94]

Hi Shannon,



I've been running Ascendant Alpha Male Subliminal Training Set v7.0, Stage 0 (6.5 Gen) since May 11, 2026.



I've been following this instruction set:

"If you DO NOT need this program to be ready for stages 1+, but you want to use it anyway: Use this program for 1 (One) loop (30 minutes total) per day on, for 1 (One) days on and 3 (Three) days off per usage cycle."



I haven't noticed any results so far. Should I have followed the alternative instruction set instead ("If you DO need this program to be ready for Stages 1+:")?

I didn't, as I don't have plans for the rest of AM7 maybe one day

For your usage and intent, you followed the correct instruction pattern, with one exception, which I will detail below.

I used the ultrasonic version for two months before switching to hybrid. There might be internal changes happening that I'm not aware of, but I haven't noticed anything concrete yet. Since the total run cycle is four months, do I have to stop once those four months are complete?

The exception is that you switched from ultrasonic to hybrid format.  The correct progression is always Ultrasonic --> Masked --> Hybrid.  Hybrid is always what people assume they need because they are stuck on "more is better".  In reality, the vast majority of people who do not get results from Ultrasonic format have that issue because the subliminalized audio is too loud volumetrically for their (very rare at this point) situation.  

In very rare cases, the person will have an overwhelm response to the volume and just give up, subconsciously believing they just can't do what is being asked at the level of urgency or speed they perceive the volume to be expressing.  The solution is to lower the volume, which can be done most effectively by using the Masked format.  If a couple months of Ultrasonic AND Masked format both fail to produce results, then we know that the issue is stonewalling, which is what Hybrid is used for overcoming.

Since you used Ultrasonic and then Hybrid and still report no results, we know that you will almost certainly get results from Masked format, because both of the others were overwhelming your subconscious.

However, because you did not use the formats in the correct progression, you will now have triggered such a degree of overwhelm that you will need a month or two off to try again with Masked.

Have you had this result from any other of my subliminals?  If so, which titles and what versions?

My goal was to stick with this program for as long as possible because it includes some great subs. I haven't been actively looking for results every day; I just realized recently how long I've been running it. Could you please advise on what I should do next such as a volume change, or if I should just stick to the current plan?

As I stated above, you are almost certainly in a state of complete subconscious overwhelm, at this point, and the only solution that can work is to stop using the program entirely for a month or two to allow the effects to fade and return to a state where you can be receptive again.  When you finish that time off, you can use the Masked format at the indicated volume and usage pattern, and it should work for you.

If you STILL do not get results after a couple months on Masked, please ask me for help in the thread for responses to my personal thread, and we will dive deeper into what can help.

I suggest that you not use subliminals at all while you're taking time off from Stage 0, so the recovery is both faster and certain to happen.

I received a discount on this sub, so I know I'm not eligible for a refund. I'm not worried about that though; I just want to get as much benefit from this program as possible. For reference, I previously had great success with AM6.

Thank you!

That you had great success on AM6 is actually very good news.  It means that what we need to do is find the right usage specifics, because you are clearly dealing with a serious "boulder in the road".  And to have a stonewalling response to 6.5G is VERY surprising.  It will be very rare that that is possible at this point, but I think we just need to approach with the right degree of gentleness balanced with push and you'll be fine.

Sorry for the late response, @Shannon

I took a break from the sub since you told me to do so. To answer your question, I honestly can't quite remember if I had this exact issue with any other specific subs in the past, but I've always naturally responded much better to the masked format compared to ultrasonic, especially during some of the early DMSI releases.

I'll subscribe to DMSI (I'm excited) and see where that takes me before coming back to masked AM7 Stage 0. Since I spent money on Stage 0, I aim to get some actual value out of it rather than just writing it off.

Also, can we hope to see Manifest Your Perfect Subs again in 6G with the new titles? Honestly, using attraction subs feels like a distraction for me. I'd rather just run a manifest sub, get it over with, and focus purely on personal improvement. For instance, I had success with relationships using AM6, but it eventually fizzled out when I suddenly lost that lust side for her after a lot of time and energy was invested. I'm not sure what or how that happened as everything was going perfectly.

If I ran something like "attract your ideal wife," could I still lose interest down the line, or is that bond supposed to be for life, or are there just too many factors at play? Does the subconscious prevent that kind of thing from happening if she genuinely qualifies as a wife, or is that just how life goes?

Also, what about ideal girlfriend versus wife? Can an ideal girlfriend become a wife, or does that fall into a completely different category?

Either way, a manifest sub would be a massive hit for sales. You've probably heard it a million times, but I last requested it on a thread in 2015 and here I am 11 years later. Oh and AOS 6G would be CRAZY! I've seen what 4g can do, imagine that in 6g.

Thanks for the help and guidance.

[Shannon]

DMSI is an extremely long and complex script.  Once it adds FRM, it becomes 25% longer still.  (Yes, FRM v6.1 is very long and complex by itself.)  I therefore cannot know the answer to your question with certainty because I do not have the script memorized, and nobody on earth could claim to do so without a flawless photographic memory, which would leave a small handful of people who will never read it anyway.

However, I believe I remember that DMSI 6.0 is focused on getting you past that sort of issue, and it includes the FRM as well.

Hello @Shannon, congrats on upcoming DMSI, fantastic news!

I saw you reference FRM V6.1 here, is that because that is the FRM that is in the current version, of course? I know the "5 Series" has FRM V6.1. 

Because I had assumed FRM would've been improved and updated since this release of FRM, for the brand new DMSI V6.0-C.

FRM is a very long, very complex script, and I have been unable to come up with anything to add to it that passes modeling for a long time.  There are limits to even my formidable genius, you know. 

Can you talk about some of the changes, keeping in mind being a public place of course, that you've made for DMSI V6.0-C?

I'm looking forward to DRS V3 inside it as well.

Thank you for your time, @Shannon!

V6.0-C is another program that is very long and complex, and I spent quite a bit of time contemplating what to add.  I came up with a handful of ideas, and some of them made it through the modeling process.  One of them is that it will now have a significantly more powerful dis-inhibiting effect, aimed at clearing the way for those who respond to respond with logical response to their sexual attraction, instead of knee jerk reactions like "Oh no!  I might get in trouble!"  Now they can realize their attraction is there, and know who it points at, and actually consider how they want to respond from a much more conscious and logical point of reference.  If there is genuinely no good reason to reject the interest, they will not do so anywhere near as automatically as before.  It is also aimed at helping the user dis-inhibit themselves, so they can act on their desires more freely when it makes sense to.  None of this is the sort of forced dis-inhibition that, say, alcohol would produce.  It does not disable your ability to think.  It simply makes it easier to think with your logical awareness, instead of fear and emotions.

There's the 6G --> 6.5G step up, which has a huge impact on how it will affect you and how well you will execute, regardless of desire to do otherwise.

The FRM adds a lot to the script, in fact it comprises about 20-25% of the recorded audio, even on a script as long and complex as DMSI.  

DRS v3 is slightly different than the stand alone shield because it works better with certain streamlining modifications when it is embedded.

I believe there's a little more, but I can't remember it right now.  I'm going on 24 hours awake at this point.

By the way it is behaving in the models, I am definitely looking forward to using it when I get the chance, but that's a ways off yet.