Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Sir Ovaltine Jenkins III]

@Shannon  I’m sorry but I’m kind of confused by this tbh. I’m currently running OSFG 6G as well (this is my first Run through). I was planning on completing this Run through (which is 3 months long), taking a week to 2 week break and then doing another run through after that. 
From what you’re suggesting it sounds like it’d be better to take a break and run a different sub for a while and then come back to OFSG after that sub’s run through is completed. 

I’m confused about this because in a previous post it was mentioned that when running OSFG you don’t want to take a really long break between run throughs as it’s doing a massive amount of work and needs the safety net of the program in order to complete the goals of the program. I can’t find your (Shannon’s) exact post on this but I do recall seeing on @Frosted’s thread this post https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-OGSF3...#pid268687 of him talking about what I had also seen from you in another thread regarding the proper instructions for using OSFG for multiple run throughs. 

I just wanted to ask for clarification on this in order to make sure I’m using the program correctly and get the most from it that I can each time I use it. I hope my question makes sense, if not please just let me know. Thank you!

@Frosted
@Sir Ovaltine Jenkins III
Boredom at and after the 3 month mark depends on the personality type.  It does not always happen starting at 3 months, and may require more than 6 months to start happening.  In  some cases, it never happens.  For OGSF specifically, if you encounter the program's effects slowing down at or after 3 months, then it's time to take a break and either wait a while, or take a break and then run something else for a while.  Ideally, we want to use OGSF as much as possible for the time that it's doing something, but we have to take into account this unfortunate variable.

If you find that this is happening... and you want to continue working on emotional healing... switching to E7 from OGSF, or vice versa, is a good idea to keep the focus and continue making progress, but also deal with the effects of subconscious boredom.

You will know this is an issue under one or both of two conditions:
1. You start getting messages from your subconscious that it is bored with the endless repetition - this is relatively rare.
2. The effects of the program begin to taper off.  This is necessary to distinguish from acclimation, which is an entirely different thing.  Acclimation happens when you just get used to the effects of the program and simply normalize them as they become your new standard experience.

If you need to differentiate between "boredom fade out" and acclimation, hake a couple weeks off the program and observe what happens.  If you're experiencing boredom fade out, you'll notice little to nothing noticeable changes during that 2 weeks off.  If you're dealing with simple acclimation, you'll see a change as what you had acclimated to stops and your baseline shifts to what would happen without executing the script.
6G should make it significantly more difficult to experience boredom fade-out, but we don't have enough data just yet to know for sure what the specifics are.

Oh ok sweet! That makes a lot more sense now.  Thanks for your help @Shannon I appreciate it!

[Frosted]

@Frosted
@Sir Ovaltine Jenkins III
Boredom at and after the 3 month mark depends on the personality type.  It does not always happen starting at 3 months, and may require more than 6 months to start happening.  In  some cases, it never happens.  For OGSF specifically, if you encounter the program's effects slowing down at or after 3 months, then it's time to take a break and either wait a while, or take a break and then run something else for a while.  Ideally, we want to use OGSF as much as possible for the time that it's doing something, but we have to take into account this unfortunate variable.

If you find that this is happening... and you want to continue working on emotional healing... switching to E7 from OGSF, or vice versa, is a good idea to keep the focus and continue making progress, but also deal with the effects of subconscious boredom.

You will know this is an issue under one or both of two conditions:
1. You start getting messages from your subconscious that it is bored with the endless repetition - this is relatively rare.
2. The effects of the program begin to taper off.  This is necessary to distinguish from acclimation, which is an entirely different thing.  Acclimation happens when you just get used to the effects of the program and simply normalize them as they become your new standard experience.

If you need to differentiate between "boredom fade out" and acclimation, hake a couple weeks off the program and observe what happens.  If you're experiencing boredom fade out, you'll notice little to nothing noticeable changes during that 2 weeks off.  If you're dealing with simple acclimation, you'll see a change as what you had acclimated to stops and your baseline shifts to what would happen without executing the script.
6G should make it significantly more difficult to experience boredom fade-out, but we don't have enough data just yet to know for sure what the specifics are.

Oh ok sweet! That makes a lot more sense now.  Thanks for your help @Shannon I appreciate it!

Agreed. Thank you Shannon!

[4Kingdoms]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid269763

Alright. I have finally checked and developed ALL of the ideas I had... even the two late stragglers from this morning. NOW I can start actually building OPH v3.

There are a total of 8 new goals in OPH v3. What exactly they are is a secret. But this is going to blow OPH v2 out of the water, and v2 was no damned slouch!

I can't wait to start using v3. Here we go!

[ncbeareatingman]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid269763

Alright. I have finally checked and developed ALL of the ideas I had... even the two late stragglers from this morning. NOW I can start actually building OPH v3.

There are a total of 8 new goals in OPH v3. What exactly they are is a secret. But this is going to blow OPH v2 out of the water, and v2 was no damned slouch!

I can't wait to start using v3. Here we go!

 Alright!! Rock n' Rolla !!

[Shannon]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid269763

 Alright!! Rock n' Rolla !!

You're going to like this.

OPH v3 is going to be the base for Anti-Aging.  I don't know which way I'll go yet, but it's either going to be what Anti-Aging is built on/from or it's going to be Stage 1 of the set (if it is a set).

So we have the first step towards the Anti-Aging program finished.

[ncbeareatingman]

 Alright!! Rock n' Rolla !!

You're going to like this.

OPH v3 is going to be the base for Anti-Aging.  I don't know which way I'll go yet, but it's either going to be what Anti-Aging is built on/from or it's going to be Stage 1 of the set (if it is a set).

So we have the first step towards the Anti-Aging program finished.

Might there be some parts of the Sub ,either in OPH or to come with Anti-aging that address & deal with Mitochondria + DNA stuff,all way round?

OPH: Wow... Oh my goodness!! What good & encouraging news ,here in My favorite season of the year ,when Autumn Leaves begin to fall. thanks,
 This is gonna be sooo good, I know it.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXBNlApwh0c

[Shannon]

You're going to like this.

OPH v3 is going to be the base for Anti-Aging.  I don't know which way I'll go yet, but it's either going to be what Anti-Aging is built on/from or it's going to be Stage 1 of the set (if it is a set).

So we have the first step towards the Anti-Aging program finished.

Might there be  some parts of the Sub ,either in  OPH  or to come with Anti-aging that address & deal with Mitochondria + DNA stuff,all way round?

OPH: Wow... Oh my goodness!! What good & encouraging news ,here in My favorite season of the year ,when Autumn Leaves begin to fall. thanks,
 This is gonna be sooo good, I know it.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXBNlApwh0c

MHS and OPH have for a number of versions now included sub-cellular and genetic influence to achieve their goals.  This version is no different.  More than that, I cannot freely say.

Anti-Aging isn't far enough along in actual development for me to comment on.

OPH v3 feels very different than v2 does... I'm running it for the first time right now.  Quite fascinating.

[samba99]

Shannon,

I have been using DMSI v5 since it came out, I am not noticing noticeable results except for very erotic dreams.

When should I consider trying hybrid or masked format?

Note: I have always benefited from less usage, less power.

[4Kingdoms]

Shannon,

I have been using DMSI v5 since it came out, I am not noticing noticeable results except for very erotic dreams.

When should I consider trying hybrid or masked format?

Note: I have always benefited from less usage, less power.

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https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-OED-5...#pid269733

It may be helpful to explain that the way my programs are designed goes like this.  I design them so that the most useful format is also the one most people will benefit most from.  That's ultrasonic.  They're designed to be used as ultrasonic format to begin with, and if and only if that doesn't work for you do we start considering changing formats.  Why?  Because the format determines, among other things, which levels of the subconscious we are primarily communicating to and with, and that has a BIG impact on how well and how successfully the program works.  Most people will do best with ultrasonic because of the parts it primarily communicates to and with.

If that is wrong for you for some reason, THEN we go to Masked format, and see how that works.  Masked format communicates with and to a much deeper, more primal part of your subconscious.  If this format is not right for you regarding the title you're trying to use, then one of two things will happen.

1. You will find that nothing happens, because it is being overridden or ignored, or
2. You will find that it is difficult to use because the part you are communicating with gets upset and fights it.

If both Ultrasonic and Masked fail, then and only then do we try Hybrid, which inputs on both "channels" at once, and doubles the input, which also doubles the rest of the input-decode-process-execute parts of the process and the energy it takes to do so.  If either of the other two formats are a better choice, Hybrid will be a massive overkill, and you'll usually get a huge amount of subconscious upset and resistance from it.

Ultrasonic feels easier because it's triggering much less resistance from your subconscious, so it is easier.

You can't use Ultrasonic format on headphones, and if you're around others most or all of the day then you'll need to find time to be alone to listen.  Some people do that while commuting, some go take a walk in the woods, some play it while they sleep, and so on.

[StridingStrider]

Shannon,

I'm finishing up on Cycle #6 of DMSI V5 and I've noticed some nice benefits with regard to my social anxiety. I feel a lot more freer than I ever did running OGSF/OF/EHAPRA.

However, I'm not noticing much in terms of results (in terms of the main goal), except maybe some more stares.

Do I just wait for the FRM to finish doing its thing?

[Shannon]

Shannon,

I have been using DMSI v5 since it came out, I am not noticing noticeable results except for very erotic dreams.

When should I consider trying hybrid or masked format?

Note: I have always benefited from less usage, less power.

Please be aware that the first thing that is going to happen for most guys is... FRM will kick in and go to work.  Only once it is far enough along will you see something in the direction you want to.  Very erotic dreams and nothing else at a conscious level strongly suggests that you're working through something.

I recommend using it for 3 months the way you are using it, and then assessing what's going on.  If you're still not getting outward results at that point, come back and ask me for guidance, and we will see what will help you move forward.  Until then, you really haven't given it a chance, given what FRM frequently has to work through.  And if before 3 months you start seeing results you're looking for, let me know that also.

[Shannon]

Shannon,



I'm finishing up on Cycle #6 of DMSI V5 and I've noticed some nice benefits with regard to my social anxiety. I feel a lot more freer than I ever did running OGSF/OF/EHAPRA.



However, I'm not noticing much in terms of results (in terms of the main goal), except maybe some more stares.



Do I just wait for the FRM to finish doing its thing?

Yes, basically you need to give it the time to work through whatever is in the way.  Give it at least 3 months, and then if you're still waiting, come back and ask for guidance.

[4Kingdoms]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid269788

Everyone who is now using v5.1 of DMSI, please note that v5.0 and 5.1 differ significantly in certain ways, and I need to know what results come from what specific version to understand certain important factors. This will help me understand things not just in terms of how and why the program is working, but also what to do if you are experiencing issues. I don't think I made this clear before, so I am doing that now.

As a result, I'd like to ask all of you who started with v5.0 and are now using v5.1 to start a new journal thread, entirely, and title it with v5.1 in the title please. It's really important for me to be able to differentiate this data and results.

[MegaMan]

Might there be  some parts of the Sub ,either in  OPH  or to come with Anti-aging that address & deal with Mitochondria + DNA stuff,all way round?

OPH: Wow... Oh my goodness!! What good & encouraging news ,here in My favorite season of the year ,when Autumn Leaves begin to fall. thanks,
 This is gonna be sooo good, I know it.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXBNlApwh0c

MHS and OPH have for a number of versions now included sub-cellular and genetic influence to achieve their goals.  This version is no different.  More than that, I cannot freely say.

Anti-Aging isn't far enough along in actual development for me to comment on.

OPH v3 feels very different than v2 does... I'm running it for the first time right now.  Quite fascinating.

Congratulations on the progress with OPH!
I remember a statement that the Grow Taller experience might be possible for people older than 28 years in 6G. Maybe this would be something to explore now, with OPH also targeting physical changes?
While I am excited about Grow Taller, I would also use something that optimizes postures and tendons/ligaments etc. for that same goal and not necessarily bone growth.