Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Shannon]

You are referring to this statement in the product description:







X4A-1xxx is designed to past resistance faster and more easily by making the goal simpler and the process of achieving it simpler.  It is also 5.11G, which makes it more effective for getting past the reasons for resistance, which would be fear at their core.



That doesn't mean that it will work well for everyone.  Especially if you have a rare type of personality, or a very unusual core belief issue, or some combination of those things.  X4A will work for those who do not fear being sexually arousing to women, or having sex with them.  That's the goal of the program.  But anyone who has that fear is going to have problems with X4A.  And DMSI.  And apparently, Sex Magnet in your case.  What all these programs have in common is making you sexually attractive and arousing to the woman, and getting to physical sex with her.



Now what really interests me here is we have a clear pattern of this response, and yet you were getting results from affirmations.  That clearly tells me that there is some part of your subconscious that is afraid of either women, being attractive to women, or having sex with women - or some combination of those.   



So I have a couple questions for you.  First, please describe to me as clearly as you can what your response to DMSI was, and how it compares to your response to X4A.  Second, can you remember any time in your life that you were afraid of women, sex, or being attractive or arousing to women?  Third, without getting into discussing religion or breaking Rule #4, is it possible that you hold a religious belief that one or more of these factors might get you punished from a religious perspective? And last, have you done a run through of EHPRA, OF, or OGSF?

To be honest what is interesting is that you say I have a fear of having sex or attracting women, yet I pulled girls to my bed many times.



I also dress in unconventional way many times and get attention from women as well as compliments.

So I think I can handle attention.



Some girls at work can be attracted to me and basically ignore them if I'm not interested.



Using affirmations which I started again few days ago - Again I pulled just today girl to my room after approaching her on the beach.

She even drove me home with her car.

Complimenting me all the way through.



So man it's honestly sounds weird you will say I have fear of women or sex.



It just seems for some reason these attracting programs are inferior to what I can do with just believing in myself a bit more.

I can see how you would come to that conclusion.  Yours is a unique case, however.  I have never seen this before, and we've been in business since around 2008 here and from 2003 before that on eBay.  I have seen a lot of people come and go in that time, and yours is the first of it's kind. 

5.11G as you said should work through these things that's the advertisement.
But now I am a special case supposedly?

If you're not just trolling me in all this, and I don't think you are, then special case would be an understatement.  You are the only one I have ever seen have this sort of response.  I'm scratching my head trying to understand it.  

Am6 worked but also made me distant to women in an unhealthy way.

But it did work so I can't say the programs don't work or anything like that.

I wouldn't be able to stay in business if these programs did not work.  We don't advertise at all for years now and we stay in business because they work.  So the only thing I cana think of is that you have the combination of a personality and set of beliefs I have never encountered before.  Basically you're telling me that affirmations work for you almost immediately, but programs that took over a decade of development cause massive rejection and resistance responses.  All else aside, that would at the very least strongly suggest that you have a very strong will and a deep desire to do what you want to do instead of allowing yourself to be influenced.  But the things you report all point to a subconscious response of extreme fear. 

If you're pulling women with just affirmations, then you are either bypassing the parts that are afraid of sex/women somehow, or your fears don't have to do with sex/women directly, but are somehow being triggered as a secondary association.  Very, very confusing.

That being said,



I'd like full refund for this subscription and for DMSI subscription which for some reason the refund code didn't work when purchased the subscription for X4A.

Two programs I physically couldn't run for more than 1 day 

If you think it's fair not to refund money for a service I didn't use that's crazy.

I used them for 1 day got major side effects and twice you said I shouldn't use them or continue with them.



It made me trust what you offer less,

Not saying it's your fault or that I couldn't find a way making it work somehow.

But at least be professional about money not well spet.

I'm sorry if I'm too direct about the money subject here but that's the elephant in the room and it should be fine about money as we feel comfortable talking about sex or whatever.

So first of all please refund the money...

I don't have an issue with refunding you in this case.  However, Ben is going to have to handle that, since until I get a production computer up and running and my backups restored, I am not in a position to issue the refund myself,

I'll be happy to answer and provide information if you think it can help ,

About DMSI it made me feel weak with headaches and feeling of sexual energy rising to the head.



About EHPRA I didn't run it.



I don't hold beliefs about religion and women.



I do not fear sex being arousing to women or something like that



Thanks

Alright, since you get such good results from affirmations, I'd like you to do an exercise for me.  This may be very helpful in understanding what's going on here.

I'd like you to find a place where you can have some quiet time, and be alone.  Then, get yourself comfortable, sitting or laying down, and close your eyes.  Ask yourself, "Why do I respond this way to Shannon's subliminals?" and then spend a few minutes just listening for a response.  It may come as a thought, a faint voice or a feeling, but whatever it is, listen to it and take note.  If you get no discernible answer, try to relax yourself further, and after adjusting to more relaxed state, ask again.  Keep doing this until you get an answer.  You'll have to focus into yourself until you get it, and this may need to be done before you go to bed or just after you awaken depending on the results you get from your first attempt.

Then once you get an answer, start exploring the answer.  Start asking "Why?"  Keep going until you reach the root of the reasoning for the part of you that is answering.  This process can reveal some stunning revelations about how your subconscious thinks and what it believes.  I think this could be very helpful for us, and once you understand and share that with me, we may be able to improve the programs as well.

How long did you use DMSI?  I'm guessing you used v3.5?