Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

Hell yeah I want to be in. @Shannon does this mean this installment of OF 5.75.5G will be in the upcoming DMSI release? Also, am I correct to say that, as fear is root of it all, that OF/FRM is the key to FRM 5.0?

Allow me to clarify how I'm doing this.  

Fear Removal Module 4.9 is the module that is being used as the Key Script for Overcoming Fear.  That means the FRM is the goal of the program, and the rest of the skeleton script supports that goal.  But in other programs, the FRM is not the Key Script.  It is part of the Skeleton Script, which is what supports the Key Script.

So FRM is the key to OF, and the key to FRM 5.0 is something I haven't figured out yet.  Basically I'm not yet sure how to advance FRM 4.9 to 5.0, but I have identified some things that will enable the skeleton script to better support the FRM, thus allowing for better execution of FRM 4.9 without changing it's script.

It would be about like tuning a race car by improving all the components without upgrading the engine.  I'm not a car guy, but let's say we improve airflow to the engine, and we make the cooling better and we improve the efficiency of the engine by tweaking the timing, and we tweak the gear ratios, adjust the tire pressure, use better oil, add nitro and perhaps new spark plugs.  The same engine is now going to put out more power and perform better than before. 

That's sort of like what I am able to do right now by using FRM 4.9 in a newer, more advanced and better focused, tweaked and tuned skeleton script.

[tolgaocal80]

hi Shannon,if you have time could you please share your opinion about this

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid240814

I need your thoughts, guidance, if I had success with AM which one I should contuine with SM or WM?

[Jake2015]

If this fails me then I have no other means to play the sub sadly so it has to work on my s10 phone irrespective of what the speaker test reveals.

Cannot you hook either phone to a set of computer speakers? They start at 15 bucks or so. Or does it need to be mobile?
Another option would be running masked, that has lower requirements for speakers.
Third option, it’s crazy but it works for me in certain situations: wear headphones around your neck (not on your ears) and pump up the volume - that allows for all formats, is perfect stereo, it is mobile and bypasses the problem of a bad phone speaker.

Hey Fab10 sorry for the late reply. Sadly it HAS to be mobile as I fly in and out of 2 countries as im a student abroad therefore I need to use what I can rely on irrespective of where I am in the world.

Also Shannon gave me a particular instruction which was to use volume of 13/15 from my phone, so adding a speaker will just add more to that.

I dont want to run masked as im sure ill end up awake instead of able to sleep sadly. I need to sleep and forget about the subliminal.

I have tried sleepphones in the past and due to the way my ears are shaped they were resulting in soreness that was simply uncomfortable so I couldnt ever use that option sadly.

So mobile phone that I have has to be it for now.

[Shannon]

hi Shannon, I have a question about buying SM or WM
I know, here had been lots of discusses about using SM or WM,

I am very unexperienced man about relationships, probably I have a lot of fear concerning sex and relationships with women.  I want to change my view of sexuality to a good and healthy one.

I have never been in a relationship with a woman as I want. My family has denigrated sex all my childhood, which made me have misconceptions about sexuality and women. now I want to change this completely.

I am on my 3.nd of AM, I gained a lot of confidence, AM body-language, communication skills, and my view of world had changed to good,  I have read vast of redpill materials, I want to see how is it being a sex-magnet or you know when I see a girl I liked, I want to be able to make all talking stuff and sex with her.

AM has helped me tidy  up in many areas, don't get me wrong. some people will say you already did AM, why it didn't helped with sexuality, well because AM is not about sexuality.

Now I want to add a sexuality to all these gains. this will either be with SM or with WM.

which sub you will advice me, SM or WM  I will buy one of them in this sale.
Actually I want to use SM, my first thought was SM and still it is. I read all journals I could find, What is your opinion about this, as I say I want to change my view of sexuality and get sex. which one of this will help me more?, SM would be a tough journey but I know I can handle it.

If you want to turn your results into sexual results, then it would be Sex Magnet, which is why that program was created.  But it's raw sex, and a lot of guys report being shocked when the women they got to respond turned the tables on them and treated them like fuck meat.  Don't be surprised if that happens.  It won't be a relationship.  It won't be bonding, or romance, or friendship.  It will be raw sex and sexuality when it happens.  If that's what you want, then go for SM.  If not, something else may be in order.  WM is more about social and playful alpha.  It takes more skill and experience to turn it sexual.

[tolgaocal80]

But it's raw sex, and a lot of guys report being shocked when the women they got to respond turned the tables on them and treated them like fuck meat.  Don't be surprised if that happens.  It won't be a relationship.  It won't be bonding, or romance, or friendship.  It will be raw sex and sexuality when it happens.  If that's what you want, then go for SM.

Actually that doesn't break my heart,

thats exactly what I want no strings attached sex,
thank you sir.

[dissonance]

Hey Shannon and everyone. Hope all's good. I been out of the game for a while. Just noticed there's a new LTU 6.0! I purchased LTU 5.0 when it came out, and wondering is there a discount for the upgrade from 5 to 6?

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon and everyone. Hope all's good. I been out of the game for a while. Just noticed there's a new LTU 6.0! I purchased LTU 5.0 when it came out, and wondering is there a discount for the upgrade from 5 to 6?

Our policy is that if the new version is in a new technology generation, there is no discount unless there was a discount specified at the publication of the original version.  That did not happen in this case, and we have advanced to a new technology generation, so no discount.

However, if you think about it, the price right now is the introductory price, which is significantly lower than the end price will be, and the price is being held where it is because people are having more difficulty because of the corona virus.  Given what the end price will be, you effectively have a bigger "discount" this way than you would even if I was offering a 50% discount to upgrade.

[dissonance]

Ah okay thanks. How many minutes are each of the LTU6 loops? Just to gauge how long a day's set would take. Also, if I'm using the masked version, the mp3 vs flac would make no difference since the sub content would be below the freqs that mp3 would cut off, right? Finally, when using the masked version, how would you describe how soft it can go while remaining fully effective, while sleeping? I'm using on speakers about 1.5 ft - 2 ft away from head.

[fab10]

How many minutes are each of the LTU6 loops?

That has been different for each stage - between 60 and 75 minutes approximately. However, the number of required loops also changes, resulting in a total daily listening time between a minimum of 6 hours and a maximum of 9 hours and 20 minutes, so far.

[Shannon]

Ah okay thanks. How many minutes are each of the LTU6 loops? Just to gauge how long a day's set would take.

 

As stated above, each stage has a different ASRB and thus a different length, as well as a different number of loops per day.  You can find that information on the description page.

Also, if I'm using the masked version, the mp3 vs flac would make no difference since the sub content would be below the freqs that mp3 would cut off, right?

 

MP3 is lossy; FLAC is not.  The difference has nothing to do with frequencies in this case, or I would have to use only FLAC.  The difference is in the amount of fidelity and thus clarity of the resulting subliminal, and that will still be degraded an estimated 3% to 7% on MP3, compared to 100% fidelity/clarity on FLAC.

Finally, when using the masked version, how would you describe how soft it can go while remaining fully effective, while sleeping? I'm using on speakers about 1.5 ft - 2 ft away from head.

That gets into a lot of variables, especially if you're using speakers.  What is playing it, how many volume controls exist for the whole play chain, what are they, how well does the supporting software and hardware function, are there any background controls influencing replay fidelity, and so forth.  If you can hear the mask, you should be affected by the program, but I suggest keeping it at a moderate level of volume for the mask, at least.  Whatever would be comfortable to use while you're awake will probably be best.

[AriGold]

Which program would you suggest against perfectionistic behaviour?

OF, E4, what else?

[dissonance]

Hey Shannon and everyone. Hope all's good. I been out of the game for a while. Just noticed there's a new LTU 6.0! I purchased LTU 5.0 when it came out, and wondering is there a discount for the upgrade from 5 to 6?

Our policy is that if the new version is in a new technology generation, there is no discount unless there was a discount specified at the publication of the original version.  That did not happen in this case, and we have advanced to a new technology generation, so no discount.

However, if you think about it, the price right now is the introductory price, which is significantly lower than the end price will be, and the price is being held where it is because people are having more difficulty because of the corona virus.  Given what the end price will be, you effectively have a bigger "discount" this way than you would even if I was offering a 50% discount to upgrade.

Ah okay thanks. How many minutes are each of the LTU6 loops? Just to gauge how long a day's set would take.

 

As stated above, each stage has a different ASRB and thus a different length, as well as a different number of loops per day.  You can find that information on the description page.

Also, if I'm using the masked version, the mp3 vs flac would make no difference since the sub content would be below the freqs that mp3 would cut off, right?

 

MP3 is lossy; FLAC is not.  The difference has nothing to do with frequencies in this case, or I would have to use only FLAC.  The difference is in the amount of fidelity and thus clarity of the resulting subliminal, and that will still be degraded an estimated 3% to 7% on MP3, compared to 100% fidelity/clarity on FLAC.

Finally, when using the masked version, how would you describe how soft it can go while remaining fully effective, while sleeping? I'm using on speakers about 1.5 ft - 2 ft away from head.

That gets into a lot of variables, especially if you're using speakers.  What is playing it, how many volume controls exist for the whole play chain, what are they, how well does the supporting software and hardware function, are there any background controls influencing replay fidelity, and so forth.  If you can hear the mask, you should be affected by the program, but I suggest keeping it at a moderate level of volume for the mask, at least.  Whatever would be comfortable to use while you're awake will probably be best.

Thanks!! gonna be goin at it hard with OF 5.75 startin tonight. Removing that fear vibration for GOOD!!

[Shannon]

Which program would you suggest against perfectionistic behaviour?

OF, E4, what else?

Perfectionism is almost 100% fear based, in my opinion.  OF is pretty much #1 by a long shot.  E4 would be a #2.  A #3 would be LTU v6.  Aside from that, not much else worth considering.

[Jake2015]

Hi @Shannon ill be quick. Im considering trying out masked for OF, rather the current US incase my phones preventing it from working effectively. You gave me specific instructions to listen at a volume of 13/15 through my phone, does that still apply if I use masked?

Masked is gentler than hybrid correct and thus I thought the better option to try, yes?

thank you