Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

@Shannon Hope youre well.

Im wondering with all my fears, does lack of self esteem, self worth or lack of confidence all stem from fear too and can OF work on helping with this?

having fallen for and lost the girl that I fell in love with and thought was the one has made me wonder did I lack something inside and if so was it all the above?

thanks

OF deals with fear.  If you fear is caused by something else, that will also be dealt with.

The way of the world is, you probably won't find "The One" during the first 30 - 35 years of your life.  So stop thinking like that.  You have to be developed enough for "The One" to want you.  Even if you meet them, they won't want you if you're not what they need.  You need to focus on becoming the best version of yourself you can be, and doing it without "The One".  I went through a lot of what you're talking about, and later on realized I was looking for someone to be my mother and take care of me so I didn't have to face my fears and grow up.  Not saying that's what you're doing, but it sounds familiar.

So my advice is, if you want a woman to choose you, work on being what she wants and needs.  That means developing yourself, improving yourself and making yourself all that you can be.  When you do that, you will have pick of the litter - believe me.  Good men are hard to find, and they have options.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon,

Bizarre situation. Top secret sub, then top secret situation, then no top secret sub, lmao. Hope all is well.

Basically, this is something that - to my knowledge - has never been done before.  I will get exactly one chance to launch this correctly.  If it doesn't work as designed, I have to make it work as designed before this gets launched.  And with how things have been going wrong during the development process, I realized that to launch it, I would have to do so without knowing anything about what it does in real life.  This is a very important title, and when I release it, you'll understand why.  But it has to be done right the first time.  So instead of releasing it, I am going to go with my gut and put it through the gauntlet first, and make sure it performs well enough to make me happy.  Once this hits the store... there will be no going back.  One chance and one chance only.

An easy suggestion for you to focus fire: how about a fully updated OF to 5.75.3G+ standards? I'd buy it, others probably would too. It's a simple script as you said before I believe, as basically it's merely FRM. So it shouldn't be too involved. It'd also allow better execution of subs in the future, so a good investment.

FRM 4.9 is decidedly not a simple script.  Or a short one.  But I can definitely transfer it to the latest skeleton script quickly.  But I wonder, who else would buy it again?

Aside from that, I'd love a Stop Masturbating + Overcome Pornography sub combo (OF 5.75G resulted in my nofap streak being broken a short way in, annoyingly...causing the same issues again with ED which makes me concerned about future sexual interactions of course.).

Responding to OF that way very clearly demonstrates that you use porn and ED to "protect yourself" from the "threat" of women, vulnerability and sex.  I don't think you need the sub you suggest; I think you need to keep using OF.  Besides, the sub you describe could not be built in the time I have left to build it in.

Or IYPS of course, that'd be AMAZING !

I'm guessing you are referring to Increase Your Penis Size?  That one's too complex for a focus fire also.

UMOP is an option that would be VERY welcome by many of us, myself included. It's already in LTU as well so it wouldn't need to be built up from UMOP 2.

But, I want to see certain advancements to the skeleton script added first, or else I would do that.

DMSI V3.3.3 obviously...but...you know...

Any of those in 5.75.3G+ would be cool.

All the best, Shannon.

Thanks for the suggestions.  I appreciate the reminder about UMOPv2.

I've settled on upgrading a title that was last released in 3G, which upgrade is already significantly in progress as I have a very short time to build this one.  It's definitely not what I was expecting, but it's what the models told me was the best way forward for achieving my goals... and I can build it in the desired amount of time.  Oh, and it will be 5.75.4G.  I'll let you know what it is soon.  : I'm looking forward to using this one myself... whenever I can get my phone to stop perpetuating my infection by deciding at random to stop playing MIR, which it now does on average 1-2 times every day.  I'm going to have to live at my laptop if this keeps up... because this has now resulted in me having this infection for what, about 5 weeks now?  But hey, that's what happened last time the cycle was at this point, so I guess A) MIRv3 works well, and B) at least I'm not laying in bed dying during all that time.  Still, it would be nice if I was over it by now...

[UniversalMan]

@Shannon  your thoughts on:
1. supplementing UMS with OF on days off of

You have to remember that OF is designed to remove ALL of your fears.  Not just what gets in the way of using the program you want to use it with.  It is therefore going to help you achieve your goals with the program, while distracting you from the program and using energy and resources that the program would otherwise have benefited from.  In other words, there will most likely be a net loss of value.

The only way to make this work is to use OF for a long time (preferably a whole run-through) first.  And by then you may not need it.  OF is not designed to be used with anything else, and you'll most likely be taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back trying to use it that way.  At best.

2. supplementing OF with DRS on days off of OF

Days off are for resting.  Supplementing on days off is not resting.  That is point #1.  Point #2 is that days off are for processing.  And if you're trying to process on inertia for one thing, while running something else, you're going to fail.  Point #3 is that OF already has DRS.

How long till DRS becomes permanent programming?

Respond when you have time, thank you

Most likely... never.  The fact is, even if the programming becomes a permanent fixture, and you're always generating this DRS, you won't be doing it at anywhere near the strength you would be if you were using DRS.  Why?  Because for some reason programs like DRS and MIR only work while they're actively in use.  I don't understand why this is for MIR at all, but for DRS it's because for some reason your subconscious will not put in the effort to continually move the required amount of energy to accomplish that goal.

And secondly, DRS is not designed to become permanent for that reason.  I have seen some evidence that it may, but N=1 is worthless.

I was asking because, my friend who listens to UMS did not have succes with it (neither I when I was listening), so I thought she would benefit from some loops of OF on her days off UMS...that was the idea, but I guess that would not benefit her.
I am currently on OF 4.5 months in....so, on half, and It is amazing stuff!!!
Recently I have come to something big, cause I am getting depressed and sad with no apparent reason, I guess it was working on something big, on the last cycle I would rather continue without the pause, but I was too exhausted to continue through.  
I am tempted to start LTU, but I will stick with OF till 8 month mark.

And for the DRS on days off OF , I am recently exposed to more negativity, that is why I asked if it is possible to supplement on days off OF.

Thank you for the answer!

[AriGold]

I am pretty sure DRS is not allowed to be used with UMS, also OF (DRS included) with UMS:

reason: UMS has N-DRS as a shield inside

So using 2 different shields in programs will not be helpful and will lead to problems, at least that is what I understood from Shannon earlier.

[UniversalMan]

I am pretty sure DRS is not allowed to be used with UMS, also OF (DRS included) with UMS:

reason: UMS has N-DRS as a shield inside

So using 2 different shields in programs will not be helpful and will lead to problems, at least that is what I understood from Shannon earlier.

Thank you for pointing that out, I forgot that UMS haves NDRS

[ncbeareatingman]

Griffin's quote
"I share your view man! We both have been waiting for a long while now for this one to arrive, but when it does hopefully it will blow us away!
I hope USLM will work for you in the meantime! Get those juices flowing and go streaming into UMS!

At least the tech will be the best it can be! maybe by that time we might have frm 5.0, who knows
we don't celebrate thanksgiving in my country but non the less I wish you a happy one!"

Me: Yes we have been waiting quote a long time,indeed...however,when it does finally arrive, Im shure it will blow us all away....holding steadfast now....just to know its coming down the pike and still going to be built is encouraging to me!! it was already an hella-fied program to begin with,now with all the things to be added, FRM( lastest version,and yes 5.0 would be killer!!) DRS, all the new breakthroughs being added to the skeleton script,adjustments to the core and key scripts,ect.... Plus remember USLM v4.2 & E4(directed towards the goals of UMS!) yeah it'll be a full enchilada,man,fer shure with all the fixin's,da works as well say here in America!!
Understood and respect on the upcoming holiday..... giving thanks however when ever is Universal. thanks Griffin you're outta sight,Man. Im really lookin foward to your result on UMS v2 next year as well. trust me. I really am!!
cheers mate,where ever you are!!




Shannon's quote: "I just need to get finished with LTUv6. That shouldn't be much longer."

MY response:
Very good. thank you for that,Shannon. Yeah I did the math on the LTU6 stages earlier this month. 2 more to go after this one,was wondering and betting on,if you plan on rapping it on up in December with LTU6, as in stages 6 & 7,as such? I Know its hard to make prediction timeline estimates, I thought well its so close to getting to the completion of things,that, that might be the case, for December! thanks ... the journey continues.


PS: Plus I was super impressed that you were so impressed with UMS Shannon and you said so several times! Thats another sign of encouragement,as well !! SO yeah Griffin,you KNOW UMS v2 's gonna be bangin' on all cylinder's Man!!

[Shannon]

Griffin's quote  
"I share your view man! We both have been waiting for a long while now for this one to arrive, but when it does hopefully it will blow us away!
I hope USLM will work for you in the meantime! Get those juices flowing and go streaming into UMS!

At least the tech will be the best it can be! maybe by that time we might have frm 5.0, who knows
we don't celebrate thanksgiving in my country but non the less I wish you a happy one!"

Me: Yes we have been waiting quote a long time,indeed...however,when it does finally arrive, Im shure it will blow us all away....holding steadfast  now....just to know its coming down the pike and still going to be built is encouraging to me!! it was already an hella-fied program to begin with,now with all the things to be added, FRM( lastest version,and yes 5.0 would be killer!!) DRS, all the new breakthroughs being added to the skeleton script,adjustments to the core and key scripts,ect.... Plus remember USLM v4.2 & E4(directed towards the goals of UMS!) yeah it'll be a full enchilada,man,fer shure with all the fixin's,da works as well say here in America!!
Understood and respect on the upcoming holiday..... giving thanks however when ever is Universal. thanks Griffin you're outta sight,Man. Im really lookin foward to your result on UMS v2 next year as well. trust me. I really am!!
cheers mate,where ever you are!!




Shannon's quote: "I just need to get finished with LTUv6. That shouldn't be much longer."

MY response:
Very good. thank you for that,Shannon.   Yeah I did the math on the LTU6 stages earlier this month. 2 more to go after this one,was wondering  and betting on,if you plan on rapping it on up in December with LTU6, as in stages 6 & 7,as such? I Know its hard to make prediction timeline estimates, I thought well its so close to getting to the   completion of things,that,  that might be the case, for December! thanks ... the journey continues.


PS: Plus I was super impressed that you were so impressed with UMS Shannon and you said so several times! Thats another sign of encouragement,as well !! SO yeah Griffin,you KNOW  UMS v2 's gonna be bangin' on all cylinder's Man!!

I'm going to see if I can do 2 stages per month, because this has gotten old.  I only do one a month to give myself time to build something to make money with, and half the time my efforts turn out to be wasted anyway, because of circumstances outside of my control.  No guarantees, but that's what I'm looking at.  May or may not be feasible.

UMS is one of my favorite programs.  Unfortunately, I can't run it right now.  I am NOT looking forward to building another 6 stage set in 5.75.xG, this is nuts... but, given that I can work at my own pace, it will be helpful.

[HD87]

HI Shannon, I know that you have no definate time frame, but is there at least any rough time estimate when UMS2. 0 Will be released, as I wanted to buy UMS 1.0, BUT if UMS 2 will be out in a couple of months then I can wait.

[Bayern2]

FRM 4.9 is decidedly not a simple script.  Or a short one.  But I can definitely transfer it to the latest skeleton script quickly.  But I wonder, who else would buy it again?

Been mainly lurking recently as I'm still using OF and just letting the sub do its thing at this point. But I would definitely buy it again if there were even a small chance for it to get updated to the most up to date FRM standards.  If not I completely understand and will continue on with OF as is.  Just wanted to throw it out there.

[Jake2015]

@Shannon Hope youre well.

Im wondering with all my fears, does lack of self esteem, self worth or lack of confidence all stem from fear too and can OF work on helping with this?

having fallen for and lost the girl that I fell in love with and thought was the one has made me wonder did I lack something inside and if so was it all the above?

thanks

OF deals with fear.  If you fear is caused by something else, that will also be dealt with.

The way of the world is, you probably won't find "The One" during the first 30 - 35 years of your life.  So stop thinking like that.  You have to be developed enough for "The One" to want you.  Even if you meet them, they won't want you if you're not what they need.  You need to focus on becoming the best version of yourself you can be, and doing it without "The One".  I went through a lot of what you're talking about, and later on realized I was looking for someone to be my mother and take care of me so I didn't have to face my fears and grow up.  Not saying that's what you're doing, but it sounds familiar.

So my advice is, if you want a woman to choose you, work on being what she wants and needs.  That means developing yourself, improving yourself and making yourself all that you can be.  When you do that, you will have pick of the litter - believe me.  Good men are hard to find, and they have options.

Thank you Shannon, and ofcourse using OF is the first stage of trying to better myself. Any other tips do share on how to become the best version of myself I can.

I read something in this discussion about maybe you may upgrade OF from its current version to another more upto date version. If that is the case:

1) How much more advanced than currently will it really be?

2) I am currently on OF and hoping it works for me, would you think I would need to upgrade since im still waiting to execute?

thank you

[lano1106]

FRM 4.9 is decidedly not a simple script.  Or a short one.  But I can definitely transfer it to the latest skeleton script quickly.  But I wonder, who else would buy it again?

Been mainly lurking recently as I'm still using OF and just letting the sub do its thing at this point. But I would definitely buy it again if there were even a small chance for it to get updated to the most up to date FRM standards.  If not I completely understand and will continue on with OF as is.  Just wanted to throw it out there.

Same here. I like to optimize my time. I still have over 1/3 of the 8 months remaining to go. (A little bit more than 2 months).

If there was a more potent version of OF, I would get it in order to get the most out of the remaining 2 months

[ncbeareatingman]

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Shannon's quote  in response to UMS v2 :
"
I'm going to see if I can do 2 stages per month, because this has gotten old.  I only do one a month to give myself time to build something to make money with, and half the time my efforts turn out to be wasted anyway, because of circumstances outside of my control.  No guarantees, but that's what I'm looking at.  May or may not be feasible.

UMS is one of my favorite programs.  Unfortunately, I can't run it right now.  I am NOT looking forward to building another 6 stage set in 5.75.xG, this is nuts... but, given that I can work at my own pace, it will be helpful. "


My Response:
 Sounds real good Shannon, and frankly Man I'm glad that you'd be giving yourself a LOT more room &space to be and breathe,man. As you well know, its  a good thing,for any of us to do that,especially with something as mental-labor intensive as re-creating,R & D,upgrading and rebuilding such a program.
 2 stages a month,sounds awesome though. Hope when the rubber hits the road that it will indeed be feasible,to approach  things in this way and manner.
 Almost 3 hours into my new version of USLMv4.2....the feeling is like 'calming' & "I feel like I could listen ALL day!"
 What a Thanksgiving present,man oh man, I really calmly LIKE this program. "Just mellowly diggin it". Thank ya Man. Much appreciated!!!

[Shannon]

HI Shannon, I know that you have no definate time frame, but is there at least any rough time estimate when UMS2. 0 Will be released, as I wanted to buy UMS 1.0, BUT if UMS 2 will be out in a couple of months then I can wait.

If I was to work on UMS v2 and nothing else until it was done, it would require 2 solid months if nothing at all went wrong.

Since we don't have an advertising campaign going right now, for various messed up reasons I can't do much about, that would mean I would have to rely on running the business on what we would make without releasing anything new in that time.  That's not going to cut it.  So I have to stagger the build of each part with building something to offer for sale.  That makes it take at least 2x as long.  So it may be 4 to 6 months to build UMS v2, and potentially even longer.  You have time.

This is part of why I hate building this level of technology in multi-stage sets.  

Plus, this is a time when things are going wrong regularly.  I mean like, it's falling out of the sky at this point, and it will be getting worse until the middle of January.  The models are unstable more than they're stable right now, and getting anything out of them at all is 10x harder and slower than normal, except for short, unpredictable bursts of stability during which I have to work like mad to get as much done as possible.  That slows things down a lot. Then it will take at least 3 more months to fade out enough to be worth much for making things better.  And this is all stuff that is out of my hands to control.  

I know things will get better, but these cycles we are dealing with (you're also seeing their effects in the pandemic and the political, economic and financial instability worldwide) are unfortunately some of the slowest cycles that affect us.  They take months and years to do their thing.  I'm just thankful that this will be the last impact of the cycle that appears to have triggered the pandemic.  The second wave of that should peak in January, and then drop off significantly if that is the cycle that has been having that influence.

So given that... you have plenty of time.

But if you want to wait, there is always that option also.

[Shannon]

FRM 4.9 is decidedly not a simple script.  Or a short one.  But I can definitely transfer it to the latest skeleton script quickly.  But I wonder, who else would buy it again?

Been mainly lurking recently as I'm still using OF and just letting the sub do its thing at this point. But I would definitely buy it again if there were even a small chance for it to get updated to the most up to date FRM standards.  If not I completely understand and will continue on with OF as is.  Just wanted to throw it out there.

I'm still working out how to advance it right now.  But thank you for letting me know.