Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Benjamin]

Sorry guys, completed the orders. Andrew is still looking at the original issue.

I refunded one of your orders too Catman, tried to email you but it bounced back.

[Shannon]

Hello, I've got a question regarding MIR:

- When our body get an infection, don't it already utilize the immune system fully? What is it that a subliminal can do that the immune system haven't developed over million years of evolution?

As it turns out, the immune system does its best with what it has, but it can do a LOT more and a lot better with the help of your subconscious mind.  

Imagine this scenario.  You have an army, and your country is being invaded.  How will things go if you just tell your army, "Go defend our country!"?  How much better would they go if you were to tell the army to defend the country, and then focus the entire country on supporting your army in doing that job?  Would the Allies have won World War 2 if there were not civilians making bombs and bullets and planes and tanks and ships in what had previously been car and pipe manufacturing plants?  Would they have had enough food for the military if we hadn't focused on producing more food for the war effort, and sending most of the meat, eggs, milk, potatoes, etc. to be used by the military?  What about sending them fuel for all those vehicles, and making their uniforms, boots, jackets, gloves, guns, binoculars and other supplies, like medical supplies and medicines and antibiotics and painkillers?

When your body responds naturally to an infection, it does its best to accomplish the job with what it has.  But that is far from what it is capable of doing, if you have the support of your subconscious mind.

What MIR does is to give you the full support of your subconscious mind.  It makes a BIG difference over what you would have had to deal with otherwise; we have been observing that fact for about six or seven years now.

Evolution will give you what you need for survival.  That doesn't mean you're necessarily using all of what you have to accomplish the task.  MIR uses all of what you have.

Thanks for coming back to me. So as I understand it out subconscious is a "unexplored intelligence" that have just been sitting there, without the reach of either our body or our conscious mind - but made available by (your) subliminals. 

I read a post where you yourself used the previous MIR and had a bad experience by that you stopped listening to it and broke the uninterrupted listening schedule that is recommended - will the new one also have this uninterrupted listening schedule requirement? I'm thinking of possibly needing to play it for myself and my family in case we contract the CONVID-19 and wouldn't want to risk creating a worse situation by using the subliminal.

We have had access to interacting with the subconscious through hypnosis, NLP, subliminals for some time now.  It's just that when it comes to subliminals, I am apparently the only one who has figured out certain things about how to get the subconscious to respond as desired.  I may be wrong on that, but that is my understanding as of this writing.  Those things make it possible for MIR to work.

I have only ever had a bad experience with MIR when I attempted to run it and another subliminal at the same time.  That only happened during testing, so I'm not sure what you're referring to, because that was years ago.

I don't know what the listening requirements will be for MIR 3.0 yet.  I figure all that out after the program is finished being built.

[Zubrowka]

Hello, I've got a question regarding MIR:

- When our body get an infection, don't it already utilize the immune system fully? What is it that a subliminal can do that the immune system haven't developed over million years of evolution?

As it turns out, the immune system does its best with what it has, but it can do a LOT more and a lot better with the help of your subconscious mind.  

Imagine this scenario.  You have an army, and your country is being invaded.  How will things go if you just tell your army, "Go defend our country!"?  How much better would they go if you were to tell the army to defend the country, and then focus the entire country on supporting your army in doing that job?  Would the Allies have won World War 2 if there were not civilians making bombs and bullets and planes and tanks and ships in what had previously been car and pipe manufacturing plants?  Would they have had enough food for the military if we hadn't focused on producing more food for the war effort, and sending most of the meat, eggs, milk, potatoes, etc. to be used by the military?  What about sending them fuel for all those vehicles, and making their uniforms, boots, jackets, gloves, guns, binoculars and other supplies, like medical supplies and medicines and antibiotics and painkillers?

When your body responds naturally to an infection, it does its best to accomplish the job with what it has.  But that is far from what it is capable of doing, if you have the support of your subconscious mind.

What MIR does is to give you the full support of your subconscious mind.  It makes a BIG difference over what you would have had to deal with otherwise; we have been observing that fact for about six or seven years now.

Evolution will give you what you need for survival.  That doesn't mean you're necessarily using all of what you have to accomplish the task.  MIR uses all of what you have.

Thanks for coming back to me. So as I understand it out subconscious is a "unexplored intelligence" that have just been sitting there, without the reach of either our body or our conscious mind - but made available by (your) subliminals. 

I read a post where you yourself used the previous MIR and had a bad experience by that you stopped listening to it and broke the uninterrupted listening schedule that is recommended - will the new one also have this uninterrupted listening schedule requirement? I'm thinking of possibly needing to play it for myself and my family in case we contract the CONVID-19 and wouldn't want to risk creating a worse situation by using the subliminal.

We have had access to interacting with the subconscious through hypnosis, NLP, subliminals for some time now.  It's just that when it comes to subliminals, I am apparently the only one who has figured out certain things about how to get the subconscious to respond as desired.  I may be wrong on that, but that is my understanding as of this writing.  Those things make it possible for MIR to work.

I have only ever had a bad experience with MIR when I attempted to run it and another subliminal at the same time.  That only happened during testing, so I'm not sure what you're referring to, because that was years ago.

I don't know what the listening requirements will be for MIR 3.0 yet.  I figure all that out after the program is finished being built.

What I'm referring to is a post you did while using MIR for some really bad infection you had. I think it was this winter. IIRC you for some reason failed to set up the playlist so that some other subliminal was playing which caused your listening to be interrupted. That caused the infection to "grow even more powerful" as MIR didn't play and made it's magic on it.

EDIT:
I found it: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid231440

[Shannon]

Hello, I've got a question regarding MIR:

- When our body get an infection, don't it already utilize the immune system fully? What is it that a subliminal can do that the immune system haven't developed over million years of evolution?

As it turns out, the immune system does its best with what it has, but it can do a LOT more and a lot better with the help of your subconscious mind.  

Imagine this scenario.  You have an army, and your country is being invaded.  How will things go if you just tell your army, "Go defend our country!"?  How much better would they go if you were to tell the army to defend the country, and then focus the entire country on supporting your army in doing that job?  Would the Allies have won World War 2 if there were not civilians making bombs and bullets and planes and tanks and ships in what had previously been car and pipe manufacturing plants?  Would they have had enough food for the military if we hadn't focused on producing more food for the war effort, and sending most of the meat, eggs, milk, potatoes, etc. to be used by the military?  What about sending them fuel for all those vehicles, and making their uniforms, boots, jackets, gloves, guns, binoculars and other supplies, like medical supplies and medicines and antibiotics and painkillers?

When your body responds naturally to an infection, it does its best to accomplish the job with what it has.  But that is far from what it is capable of doing, if you have the support of your subconscious mind.

What MIR does is to give you the full support of your subconscious mind.  It makes a BIG difference over what you would have had to deal with otherwise; we have been observing that fact for about six or seven years now.

Evolution will give you what you need for survival.  That doesn't mean you're necessarily using all of what you have to accomplish the task.  MIR uses all of what you have.

Thanks for coming back to me. So as I understand it out subconscious is a "unexplored intelligence" that have just been sitting there, without the reach of either our body or our conscious mind - but made available by (your) subliminals. 

I read a post where you yourself used the previous MIR and had a bad experience by that you stopped listening to it and broke the uninterrupted listening schedule that is recommended - will the new one also have this uninterrupted listening schedule requirement? I'm thinking of possibly needing to play it for myself and my family in case we contract the CONVID-19 and wouldn't want to risk creating a worse situation by using the subliminal.

We have had access to interacting with the subconscious through hypnosis, NLP, subliminals for some time now.  It's just that when it comes to subliminals, I am apparently the only one who has figured out certain things about how to get the subconscious to respond as desired.  I may be wrong on that, but that is my understanding as of this writing.  Those things make it possible for MIR to work.

I have only ever had a bad experience with MIR when I attempted to run it and another subliminal at the same time.  That only happened during testing, so I'm not sure what you're referring to, because that was years ago.

I don't know what the listening requirements will be for MIR 3.0 yet.  I figure all that out after the program is finished being built.

What I'm referring to is a post you did while using MIR for some really bad infection you had. I think it was this winter. IIRC you for some reason failed to set up the playlist so that some other subliminal was playing which caused your listening to be interrupted. That caused the infection to "grow even more powerful" as MIR didn't play and made it's magic on it.

EDIT:
I found it: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid231440

The Maximum Immune Response program has an effect on an infection very similar to antibiotics.  It causes the weakest germs to be killed first, then the next weakest, then the next weakest, and so forth, until only the strongest few survive.  The same thing antibiotics do.  If you stop using MIR or antibiotics before they are finished killing all of the germs, what is left to reproduce?  Only the worst ones.  The strongest, the most virulent.  And so that is why people are instructed to use antibiotics for the full amount prescribed, and why the MIR instructions say to use it for 24/7 for 3 days minimum after all symptoms have disappeared.

What happens if your phone malfunctions, turns off, something causes it to play another track unintentionally or the player is not set to loop that one track?  MIR turns off.  The constant pressure to get the subconscious to act at full capacity ends.  The subconscious relaxes.  The immune system stops being the focus, and it is no longer "powered up".  The immune system can no longer maintain the upper hand, and the pathogens start to multiply faster than the immune system can deal with them, and suddenly you're even more sick than you were before, because now the immune system isn't being supported and all of the enemy soldiers are elites.  

That's not a fault of MIR, it was a situation where MIR stopped playing.  I think I had been so out of it that I forgot to set it to loop that track, if memory serves.  

The new version should be able to go at least some time after you stop playing it and remain effective, but we will see what the models say.  This is uncharted territory for how to use P6 technology, which is what keeps it running after you stop physically listening.

[lano1106]

I am curious about something. How long does it take to have a new habit to be ingrained in the subconscious?

Among the mass media hysteria, I did notice that we were bombarded with same messages over and over. 2 of them are:

- social distancing (WTF is this concept. Never heard of it before and they use it as if it has always been there!)
- If you don't obey us, you could end up killing your beloved ones (ie: grand-parents)

I'm concerned that this could lead to some society damage once all is done with this kind of programming...

Let's see if the average lock down doesn't coincide with the # of weeks needed to acquire new behavior... that sounds very fishy... not saying that corona thing is fake but I distrust the MSM a lot. Especially when they all say the same thing all over the world... And we are forced to listen to them because no more sports event at all still broadcasted...

[tolgaocal80]

I dont't think this is a social conditioning, you know every country giving some advices to prevent deaths, but this epidemic may contuine at least 6 months or more. but that is right this could be some social damage. if this would be a some kind of social programming IMO 3 months is enough for a society to accept a new behaviour.
we got first death today but we are doing such limitations for 2 weeks even before the virus entered

[Zubrowka]

As it turns out, the immune system does its best with what it has, but it can do a LOT more and a lot better with the help of your subconscious mind.  

Imagine this scenario.  You have an army, and your country is being invaded.  How will things go if you just tell your army, "Go defend our country!"?  How much better would they go if you were to tell the army to defend the country, and then focus the entire country on supporting your army in doing that job?  Would the Allies have won World War 2 if there were not civilians making bombs and bullets and planes and tanks and ships in what had previously been car and pipe manufacturing plants?  Would they have had enough food for the military if we hadn't focused on producing more food for the war effort, and sending most of the meat, eggs, milk, potatoes, etc. to be used by the military?  What about sending them fuel for all those vehicles, and making their uniforms, boots, jackets, gloves, guns, binoculars and other supplies, like medical supplies and medicines and antibiotics and painkillers?

When your body responds naturally to an infection, it does its best to accomplish the job with what it has.  But that is far from what it is capable of doing, if you have the support of your subconscious mind.

What MIR does is to give you the full support of your subconscious mind.  It makes a BIG difference over what you would have had to deal with otherwise; we have been observing that fact for about six or seven years now.

Evolution will give you what you need for survival.  That doesn't mean you're necessarily using all of what you have to accomplish the task.  MIR uses all of what you have.

Thanks for coming back to me. So as I understand it out subconscious is a "unexplored intelligence" that have just been sitting there, without the reach of either our body or our conscious mind - but made available by (your) subliminals. 

I read a post where you yourself used the previous MIR and had a bad experience by that you stopped listening to it and broke the uninterrupted listening schedule that is recommended - will the new one also have this uninterrupted listening schedule requirement? I'm thinking of possibly needing to play it for myself and my family in case we contract the CONVID-19 and wouldn't want to risk creating a worse situation by using the subliminal.

We have had access to interacting with the subconscious through hypnosis, NLP, subliminals for some time now.  It's just that when it comes to subliminals, I am apparently the only one who has figured out certain things about how to get the subconscious to respond as desired.  I may be wrong on that, but that is my understanding as of this writing.  Those things make it possible for MIR to work.

I have only ever had a bad experience with MIR when I attempted to run it and another subliminal at the same time.  That only happened during testing, so I'm not sure what you're referring to, because that was years ago.

I don't know what the listening requirements will be for MIR 3.0 yet.  I figure all that out after the program is finished being built.

What I'm referring to is a post you did while using MIR for some really bad infection you had. I think it was this winter. IIRC you for some reason failed to set up the playlist so that some other subliminal was playing which caused your listening to be interrupted. That caused the infection to "grow even more powerful" as MIR didn't play and made it's magic on it.

EDIT:
I found it: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid231440

The Maximum Immune Response program has an effect on an infection very similar to antibiotics.  It causes the weakest germs to be killed first, then the next weakest, then the next weakest, and so forth, until only the strongest few survive.  The same thing antibiotics do.  If you stop using MIR or antibiotics before they are finished killing all of the germs, what is left to reproduce?  Only the worst ones.  The strongest, the most virulent.  And so that is why people are instructed to use antibiotics for the full amount prescribed, and why the MIR instructions say to use it for 24/7 for 3 days minimum after all symptoms have disappeared.

What happens if your phone malfunctions, turns off, something causes it to play another track unintentionally or the player is not set to loop that one track?  MIR turns off.  The constant pressure to get the subconscious to act at full capacity ends.  The subconscious relaxes.  The immune system stops being the focus, and it is no longer "powered up".  The immune system can no longer maintain the upper hand, and the pathogens start to multiply faster than the immune system can deal with them, and suddenly you're even more sick than you were before, because now the immune system isn't being supported and all of the enemy soldiers are elites.  

That's not a fault of MIR, it was a situation where MIR stopped playing.  I think I had been so out of it that I forgot to set it to loop that track, if memory serves.  

The new version should be able to go at least some time after you stop playing it and remain effective, but we will see what the models say.  This is uncharted territory for how to use P6 technology, which is what keeps it running after you stop physically listening.

Then it becomes important that if you get Convid-19 and listen to it, that you only expose yourself to it for longer periods, otherwise other people are at the risk of coming in harms way if they are exposed by it and after a while no longer get exposure.

[RTBoss]

Please move the virus talk to the Chatter Box.  If you're not discussing subliminals, this isn't the appropriate thread.

[lano1106]

Please move the virus talk to the Chatter Box.  If you're not discussing subliminals, this isn't the appropriate thread.

I have asked the question I wanted. If it isn't of interest, just let it die. I won't keep it alive but It isn't about the virus per-say. imho, very relevant to subliminal programming.

Are the MSMs able to program the subconscious?

Once all is done and the threat is gone, will people keep doing the social distancing and obey the government directives without asking questions?

My bet is, this event will have a long lasting effect.

We are literally bombarded by a repetition of the same messages in an altered state of mind (fear).

Practice social distancing. Handshakes are evil... Obey...

If this program last 3 weeks and more... People subconscious will be altered, imho. I wanted to hear what other sub users and Shannon think about this particular aspect.

I personally think that there is some premeditation in the format of the communication about the desired outcome. Tell me which governement would object against having an obedient population that never get together to revolt against its bad decisions but whether or not I'm right about this, it doesn't change the fact that being forced to listen to the same repetition of messages for weeks is, imho, possibly able to alter a population behavior permanently...

[Zubrowka]

Please move the virus talk to the Chatter Box.  If you're not discussing subliminals, this isn't the appropriate thread.

I have asked the question I wanted. If it isn't of interest, just let it die. I won't keep it alive but It isn't about the virus per-say. imho, very relevant to subliminal programming.

Are the MSMs able to program the subconscious?

Once all is done and the threat is gone, will people keep doing the social distancing and obey the government directives without asking questions?

My bet is, this event will have a long lasting effect.

We are literally bombarded by a repetition of the same messages in an altered state of mind (fear).

Practice social distancing. Handshakes are evil... Obey...

If this program last 3 weeks and more... People subconscious will be altered, imho. I wanted to hear what other sub users and Shannon think about this particular aspect.

I think that because there is a clear reason why you should do this - i.e. save lives - people agree to do those things. It's not like people do it just because they are told by someone to do it and forced to comply. When the reason behind it does not longer apply, people can simply choose to not do it anymore.

[lano1106]

Please move the virus talk to the Chatter Box.  If you're not discussing subliminals, this isn't the appropriate thread.

I have asked the question I wanted. If it isn't of interest, just let it die. I won't keep it alive but It isn't about the virus per-say. imho, very relevant to subliminal programming.

Are the MSMs able to program the subconscious?

Once all is done and the threat is gone, will people keep doing the social distancing and obey the government directives without asking questions?

My bet is, this event will have a long lasting effect.

We are literally bombarded by a repetition of the same messages in an altered state of mind (fear).

Practice social distancing. Handshakes are evil... Obey...

If this program last 3 weeks and more... People subconscious will be altered, imho. I wanted to hear what other sub users and Shannon think about this particular aspect.

I think that because there is a clear reason why you should do this - i.e. save lives - people agree to do those things. It's not like people do it just because they are told by someone to do it and forced to comply. When the reason behind it does not longer apply, people can simply choose to not do it anymore.

Of course, there is good reason to do so. I'm not contesting that but we are all going to do it for weeks. Will the majority of people be able to stop easily once the subconscious mind will have been trained to this new anti-social behavior?

[Zubrowka]

Please move the virus talk to the Chatter Box.  If you're not discussing subliminals, this isn't the appropriate thread.

I have asked the question I wanted. If it isn't of interest, just let it die. I won't keep it alive but It isn't about the virus per-say. imho, very relevant to subliminal programming.

Are the MSMs able to program the subconscious?

Once all is done and the threat is gone, will people keep doing the social distancing and obey the government directives without asking questions?

My bet is, this event will have a long lasting effect.

We are literally bombarded by a repetition of the same messages in an altered state of mind (fear).

Practice social distancing. Handshakes are evil... Obey...

If this program last 3 weeks and more... People subconscious will be altered, imho. I wanted to hear what other sub users and Shannon think about this particular aspect.

I think that because there is a clear reason why you should do this - i.e. save lives - people agree to do those things. It's not like people do it just because they are told by someone to do it and forced to comply. When the reason behind it does not longer apply, people can simply choose to not do it anymore.

Of course, there is good reason to do so. I'm not contesting that but we are all going to do it for weeks. Will the majority of people be able to stop easily once the subconscious mind will have been trained to this new anti-social behavior?

Don't know if I can speak on behalf of "people" but I at least can't wait to start socializing with others as well and get back to normal life. I don't think it will be a problem because we are social animals that enjoy being with each other.

[Shannon]

I am curious about something. How long does it take to have a new habit to be ingrained in the subconscious?

Among the mass media hysteria, I did notice that we were bombarded with same messages over and over. 2 of them are:

- social distancing (WTF is this concept. Never heard of it before and they use it as if it has always been there!)
- If you don't obey us, you could end up killing your beloved ones (ie: grand-parents)

I'm concerned that this could lead to some society damage once all is done with this kind of programming...

Let's see if the average lock down doesn't coincide with the # of weeks needed to acquire new behavior... that sounds very fishy... not saying that corona thing is fake but I distrust the MSM a lot. Especially when they all say the same thing all over the world... And we are forced to listen to them because no more sports event at all still broadcasted...

The amount of time it takes to form a new habit depends on a lot of variables.  The same is true for how long it takes to ingrain a habit in the subconscious.  If everything is optimally favorable (i.e., a skilled hypnotist or NLP operator) it can be done in minutes.  If nothing is favorable, it may require months or years.  

I don't know what you mean by MSM, but you are making implications of a conspiracy theory.  Go read about or watch a documentary on the Spanish Flu.  They did positively EVERYTHING wrong, all over the world, and it killed more people in just the United States than the entire death count from WWI, WWII, Vietnam and Korean War did all combined.  The only place it didn't devastate was I believe Los Angeles, and that was because they pre-emptively quarantined the place.  But they got hit too, because they missed the first wave, but got careless, and when it mutated the second and third waves got them.

Now I'm not saying there will be any second or third waves of this, but what I am saying is that what you see going on in the world is those countries that have learned from the Spanish Flu are implementing travel lockdowns and pre-emptive quarantining, and those who have not are forced to lock down after the fact because they have an explosion of infections.

This isn't a conspiracy to get you to disconnect socially, it's a desperate measure being implemented to minimize the spread of the infection.  Painful, but less painful than what happened in China and Italy and a few other places by far.
If you look at how long it took for people to un-do the effects of social distancing in 1918, it was so fast that they got hit by it more than once.  There will be an effect on the world because of this but it won't be as bad as what social media is already doing.  Humans are social animals, and some way or another we need to socialize.  This too shall pass.  Just as the effects passed from even the worst plague known to man, the Bubonic Plague.

From now on, discussion of the virus without direct reference to subliminals in the process should remain in the off topic section.

[KingDavid93]

Hi @Shannon

Something definitely needs to be done for MIR 3.0 so that the 24 hours on isn’t required- I’ll be playing it all day via masked or hybrid and it will beat down the cold and then when I wake up the next day I have to start all over again (and this is with the ultrasonic playing all night while I’m asleep- so either the us doesn’t affect too much or I don’t absorb the instructions too well during sleep idk- I choose not to use the masked or hybrid at night as I can’t fall/stay asleep with it on)