Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[KingDavid93]

Hi @Shannon

Do you incorporate any aspects of sex transmutation and the cultivation of sexual energy towards powering up the subs and achieving the set goals (especially in the subs with the larger goals in play like UMS and DMSI)?

I ask because lately I’ve been drawn back into taking up a semen retention practice and I feel as if it may be due to using UMS- also last year while using USLM3 I saw the most results while I had been retaining for close to two months- results in me making more money than usual and getting a lot of female attention which also results in several relationships.

[Shannon]

Hi @Shannon

Do you incorporate any aspects of sex transmutation and the cultivation of sexual energy towards powering up the subs and achieving the set goals (especially in the subs with the larger goals in play like UMS and DMSI)?

I ask because lately I’ve been drawn back into taking up a semen retention practice and I feel as if it may be due to using UMS- also last year while using USLM3 I saw the most results while I had been retaining for close to two months- results in me making more money than usual and getting a lot of female attention which also results in several relationships.

Where a method or technique works and makes sense to use, I use it.  Sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't work, or make sense to use.

[LiquidMind]

Shannon, glad to see you better after your infection

I wanted to ask about your next sub after you've been successful on finishing frm 4.9?

[HMoody]

Is an update to UMS in the cards anytime soon?

One thing I have been thinking about is that I have been trying to pack a lot into single stages and that seems to be hitting snags, at least partly because around 3 months in, the subconscious gets tired of hearing the same thing.  And I can't say as I blame it.  

Looks like my question got missed so reposting it.

Shannon - this caught my eye. How did you determine that the subconscious gets bored at the 3 month mark? And if it does...how much is progress impeded by that boredom? Would it make sense to switch to a different program every 3 months to increase results?

I've been on UMS since the start of it's introduction but haven't seen much in the way of actual real world effects at all so far. Would switching to the latest DMSI for 3 months and then coming back to UMS perhaps increase effects even though both are geared at different goals? Just trying to think of ways to achieve actual results.

[Shannon]

Shannon, glad to see you better after your infection

I wanted to ask about your next sub after you've been successful on finishing frm 4.9?

Not sure yet.

[Shannon]

Is an update to UMS in the cards anytime soon?

One thing I have been thinking about is that I have been trying to pack a lot into single stages and that seems to be hitting snags, at least partly because around 3 months in, the subconscious gets tired of hearing the same thing.  And I can't say as I blame it.  

Looks like my question got missed so reposting it.

Shannon - this caught my eye. How did you determine that the subconscious gets bored at the 3 month mark? And if it does...how much is progress impeded by that boredom? Would it make sense to switch to a different program every 3 months to increase results?

I've been on UMS since the start of it's introduction but haven't seen much in the way of actual real world effects at all so far. Would switching to the latest DMSI for 3 months and then coming back to UMS perhaps increase effects even though both are geared at different goals? Just trying to think of ways to achieve actual results.

Those personalities that get bored with a subliminal after listening to it for too long will start off getting good results, which either slowly fade out by the 3 month mark, or sharply drop off around the 3 month mark.  Usually the result is that the results drop to either nothing or close.  

If you have never seen much in the way of results, then you either have a situation in which your subconscious is resisting "losing control" because it feels like it is "being told what to do", or it fears one or more of the goals, or the imagined results of those goals, and it is trying to prevent the program from working.  In that case, FRM needs to be upgraded, but giving yourself a month off of subs for it to bloom will be beneficial.  Either it will allow for a bloom that shows execution, if the resistance is specifically to "being told what to do", or you will allow it to rest and make adjustments in response to UMS, after which UMS or another sub may be played.  UMS may have improved results after such a rest period.

In either case, I suggest taking a month off subs altogether and seeing what happens.

[HMoody]

Is an update to UMS in the cards anytime soon?

One thing I have been thinking about is that I have been trying to pack a lot into single stages and that seems to be hitting snags, at least partly because around 3 months in, the subconscious gets tired of hearing the same thing.  And I can't say as I blame it.  

Looks like my question got missed so reposting it.

Shannon - this caught my eye. How did you determine that the subconscious gets bored at the 3 month mark? And if it does...how much is progress impeded by that boredom? Would it make sense to switch to a different program every 3 months to increase results?

I've been on UMS since the start of it's introduction but haven't seen much in the way of actual real world effects at all so far. Would switching to the latest DMSI for 3 months and then coming back to UMS perhaps increase effects even though both are geared at different goals? Just trying to think of ways to achieve actual results.

Those personalities that get bored with a subliminal after listening to it for too long will start off getting good results, which either slowly fade out by the 3 month mark, or sharply drop off around the 3 month mark.  Usually the result is that the results drop to either nothing or close.  

If you have never seen much in the way of results, then you either have a situation in which your subconscious is resisting "losing control" because it feels like it is "being told what to do", or it fears one or more of the goals, or the imagined results of those goals, and it is trying to prevent the program from working.  In that case, FRM needs to be upgraded, but giving yourself a month off of subs for it to bloom will be beneficial.  Either it will allow for a bloom that shows execution, if the resistance is specifically to "being told what to do", or you will allow it to rest and make adjustments in response to UMS, after which UMS or another sub may be played.  UMS may have improved results after such a rest period.

In either case, I suggest taking a month off subs altogether and seeing what happens.

Hmm...I would agree based on my lack of results so far I wouldn't fall into that 3 month boredom category as that would have meant I would have seen really good results in the beginning. I think I'll take 3-4 weeks off and see if that changes anything. Appreciate the response Shannon. Glad you're feeling better.

[Kol]

@Shannon

If someone has ran AM6 2 years back, and is running a 5.5+ sub, yet feels the inclination to refresh AM6 programming, can one take a break for x amount of days, and then run stage 7, or should one run stage 1-6 again, or would running stage 7 after the bloombreak be enough?

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's quote :
"In other news, I have in the last week come up with three significant leads on how to advance FRM 4.9. Will also be working on that shortly. "
So does that mean that this may very well turn out to be FRM 5.0?
I guess it doesn't really matter, as long as it does what we want and need it to do, right?

[Shannon]

@Shannon

If someone has ran AM6 2 years back, and is running a 5.5+ sub, yet feels the inclination to refresh AM6 programming, can one take a break for x amount of days, and then run stage 7, or should one run stage 1-6 again, or would running stage 7 after the bloombreak be enough?

You don't need to run Stage 1-6 again unless you feel like you're not far enough along with what 1-6 are trying to do.  Once you have run them and they have done their job of stepping you up to stage 7, you can just use stage 7.  If you run stage 7 and you find you can't handle it, then you need to run 1-6 again.

[Shannon]

Shannon's quote :
"In other news, I have in the last week come up with three significant leads on how to advance FRM 4.9. Will also be working on that shortly. "
So does that mean that this may very well turn out to be FRM 5.0?
I guess it doesn't really matter, as long as it does what we want and need it to do, right?

I'm expecting there will eventually be a FRM 5.0.  But this isn't it - I'm still trying to make it work the way I want.  5.0 most likely will be the tweaked version of 4.9.

[THolt]

Shannon's quote :
"In other news, I have in the last week come up with three significant leads on how to advance FRM 4.9. Will also be working on that shortly. "
So does that mean that this may very well turn out to be FRM 5.0?
I guess it doesn't really matter, as long as it does what we want and need it to do, right?

I'm expecting there will eventually be a FRM 5.0.  But this isn't it - I'm still trying to make it work the way I want.  5.0 most likely will be the tweaked version of 4.9.

So FRM 4.9 is looking to be a major upgrade to FRM or is it a tweak to 4.8? 

In either case I’m really looking looking forward to it

[Shannon]

Shannon's quote :
"In other news, I have in the last week come up with three significant leads on how to advance FRM 4.9. Will also be working on that shortly. "
So does that mean that this may very well turn out to be FRM 5.0?
I guess it doesn't really matter, as long as it does what we want and need it to do, right?

I'm expecting there will eventually be a FRM 5.0.  But this isn't it - I'm still trying to make it work the way I want.  5.0 most likely will be the tweaked version of 4.9.

So FRM 4.9 is looking to be a major upgrade to FRM or is it a tweak to 4.8? 

In either case I’m really looking looking forward to it

It is most likely going to be a major addition.  I'll be adding at least four new approaches to fear removal.  We shall see how well this works.  First I have to figure out how the hell to translate some of this into script...

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's quote :
"In other news, I have in the last week come up with three significant leads on how to advance FRM 4.9. Will also be working on that shortly. "
So does that mean that this may very well turn out to be FRM 5.0?
I guess it doesn't really matter, as long as it does what we want and need it to do, right?

I'm expecting there will eventually be a FRM 5.0.  But this isn't it - I'm still trying to make it work the way I want.  5.0 most likely will be the tweaked version of 4.9.

So FRM 4.9 is looking to be a major upgrade to FRM or is it a tweak to 4.8? 

In either case I’m really looking looking forward to it

It is most likely going to be a major addition.  I'll be adding at least four new approaches to fear removal.  We shall see how well this works.  First I have to figure out how the hell to translate some of this into script...

 And one more thing Shannon...and that is: I take it that once 4.9 is tweaked or up to speed, or 5.0 eventually...,that it can and will be a stand alone prodiuct as well? and a re-cap question did you say that DRS amd ARA can be used together at separate times and/or Day? is that right???