Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

Can the awakener be used while you're on ums or is it a stand alone?

It can be used with UMS, but it will disrupt UMS' state shifting while it is in use.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon, i have several of your programs, ive kept them for myself since i bought them, but if i want to give one to my dad to use, since im staying on dmsi and wont be using ums anytime in near future.

How do i go about transferring it to my dad without the copyright being triggered?

Trouble is we live in same house, but as im the deaf one and hes got perfect hearing im always using the bone conductor headphones in my room, so it shouldnt be an issue if he has it playing on his phone at night.

The other issue is my mum would be in the same room as him, but her hearing is actually a lot worse than mine so its unlikely it would affect her if ive had this much trouble over last 2 years with the subliminals i dont think it will affect her.

He doesnt believe in subliminals but thought since its just sitting here he might find it useful.

Thanks.

First, I'd like to point out that while you can give away your copy legally, it isn't helping me make money when you do things like that.  Second, if you want to give it away, don't expect it to be something you just take back later when it's convenient.  If you give it away, you gave it away.  And third, if he "doesn't believe in subliminals", why would he even use it?

That said... if you want to give it to him, you must transfer a copy to a device that he owns and tell him that you are giving it to him.  Then, immediately delete all copies in your possession, including backups, so that he has the only copy and it is on a device that is definitively his property.

[lano1106]

Can the awakener be used while you're on ums or is it a stand alone?

It can be used with UMS, but it will disrupt UMS' state shifting while it is in use.

I guess that answer is the same with DMSI.

How bad is it to disrupt the main program state shifting if the awakener is used for 5-10 minutes in the morning?

How about using the awakener with a 5G program such as SM3?

thx,

[Shannon]

Can the awakener be used while you're on ums or is it a stand alone?

It can be used with UMS, but it will disrupt UMS' state shifting while it is in use.

I guess that answer is the same with DMSI.

How bad is it to disrupt the main program state shifting if the awakener is used for 5-10 minutes in the morning?

How about using the awakener with a 5G program such as SM3?

thx,

Typically, using Awakener to stay awake or wake up will not disrupt anything because you'd have been asleep otherwise.  If you use it while you're being influenced to achieve the goals of another program, it will have the effect of forcing you into a state of high awakeness and alertness, which may disrupt the state shifting of the other program in undesirable ways.

I tried to design it so that it can be used with anything else that does not directly contradict, such as another pure state shifter.  Unless you are trying to disrupt the other program, for example countering the effects of the Sleep Induction Aid, etc.

[THolt]

Shannon what is the next sub you are building next?

[Shannon]

Shannon what is the next sub you are building next?

I'm going to make it a surprise.  It should be ready for release in a day or two.  It's a focus fire, and one that I have been wanting for myself and my girlfriend.  If it performs as designed, it should be quite popular.

[josh84]

Hi Shannon, i have several of your programs, ive kept them for myself since i bought them, but if i want to give one to my dad to use, since im staying on dmsi and wont be using ums anytime in near future.

How do i go about transferring it to my dad without the copyright being triggered?

Trouble is we live in same house, but as im the deaf one and hes got perfect hearing im always using the bone conductor headphones in my room, so it shouldnt be an issue if he has it playing on his phone at night.

The other issue is my mum would be in the same room as him, but her hearing is actually a lot worse than mine so its unlikely it would affect her if ive had this much trouble over last 2 years with the subliminals i dont think it will affect her.

He doesnt believe in subliminals but thought since its just sitting here he might find it useful.

Thanks.

First, I'd like to point out that while you can give away your copy legally, it isn't helping me make money when you do things like that.  Second, if you want to give it away, don't expect it to be something you just take back later when it's convenient.  If you give it away, you gave it away.  And third, if he "doesn't believe in subliminals", why would he even use it?

That said... if you want to give it to him, you must transfer a copy to a device that he owns and tell him that you are giving it to him.  Then, immediately delete all copies in your possession, including backups, so that he has the only copy and it is on a device that is definitively his property.

Hi Shannon, as i bought it originally for him to try in first place it was meant to be for him, but since everything is done on the one computer i decided to try it while waiting on dmsi.

I wont worry about providing it to him, but i thought it would of benefitted you in a bigger way if he did try it and get results as it would change his mind in seeing subliminals actually work, something im yet to experience after 2 years and $2000 worth of new speakers, headsets and other items believing my tech was insufficient for your subliminals.

If you get one person that doesnt believe in certain things and demonstrate it works then they would be more inclined to not only purchase further products, i actually have 2 others we were both planning to buy a copy of each so theres $460 usd for you instead of $0 on top of buying your newer releases too. It also would of had him telling others about the products that many others he knows would benefit from this products but without seeing results hes not going to mention it to people to try which is fair its same as everything else, we enjoy a nice restaurant, we enjoy a certain item we will tell everyone about it that we think it can help.

Isnt that why you have asc as a free product, but since i had already purchased a more powerful product i wanted to see if it worked for him, also we would of found out if my hearing is actually a big issue regarding the subliminals working.

2 products we both would of purchased is the awakener, and the sleep aid. copies for each of us. If ums worked for him even slightly then he would be more interested in the new uslm when released too.

Im not saying any of this in a bad way just explaining the way i was thinking, yes your missing out on $120 at the start even though i already paid it and only used it very briefly like the other products i have purchased of yours that now sit on the computer. But seeing is believing and once a person sees results their mind will change to be more interested in using the products and easily convinced to spend the amount your asking for especially as your prices increase with newer tech.

For now i will keep it for myself.

Also 5 days in 2nd round of 8 bone conductor headset every night of dmsi, nothing to report.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon, i have several of your programs, ive kept them for myself since i bought them, but if i want to give one to my dad to use, since im staying on dmsi and wont be using ums anytime in near future.

How do i go about transferring it to my dad without the copyright being triggered?

Trouble is we live in same house, but as im the deaf one and hes got perfect hearing im always using the bone conductor headphones in my room, so it shouldnt be an issue if he has it playing on his phone at night.

The other issue is my mum would be in the same room as him, but her hearing is actually a lot worse than mine so its unlikely it would affect her if ive had this much trouble over last 2 years with the subliminals i dont think it will affect her.

He doesnt believe in subliminals but thought since its just sitting here he might find it useful.

Thanks.

First, I'd like to point out that while you can give away your copy legally, it isn't helping me make money when you do things like that.  Second, if you want to give it away, don't expect it to be something you just take back later when it's convenient.  If you give it away, you gave it away.  And third, if he "doesn't believe in subliminals", why would he even use it?

That said... if you want to give it to him, you must transfer a copy to a device that he owns and tell him that you are giving it to him.  Then, immediately delete all copies in your possession, including backups, so that he has the only copy and it is on a device that is definitively his property.

Hi Shannon, as i bought it originally for him to try in first place it was meant to be for him, but since everything is done on the one computer i decided to try it while waiting on dmsi.

I wont worry about providing it to him, but i thought it would of benefitted you in a bigger way if he did try it and get results as it would change his mind in seeing subliminals actually work, something im yet to experience after 2 years and $2000 worth of new speakers, headsets and other items believing my tech was insufficient for your subliminals.

If you get one person that doesnt believe in certain things and demonstrate it works then they would be more inclined to not only purchase further products, i actually have 2 others we were both planning to buy a copy of each so theres $460 usd for you instead of $0 on top of buying your newer releases too. It also would of had him telling others about the products that many others he knows would benefit from this products but without seeing results hes not going to mention it to people to try which is fair its same as everything else, we enjoy a nice restaurant, we enjoy a certain item we will tell everyone about it that we think it can help.

Isnt that why you have asc as a free product, but since i had already purchased a more powerful product i wanted to see if it worked for him, also we would of found out if my hearing is actually a big issue regarding the subliminals working.

2 products we both would of purchased is the awakener, and the sleep aid. copies for each of us. If ums worked for him even slightly then he would be more interested in the new uslm when released too.

Im not saying any of this in a bad way just explaining the way i was thinking, yes your missing out on $120 at the start even though i already paid it and only used it very briefly like the other products i have purchased of yours that now sit on the computer. But seeing is believing and once a person sees results their mind will change to be more interested in using the products and easily convinced to spend the amount your asking for especially as your prices increase with newer tech.

For now i will keep it for myself.

Also 5 days in 2nd round of 8 bone conductor headset every night of dmsi, nothing to report.

I understand all that, which is why I explained how to do what you asked.

[josh84]

Thanks shannon, i will send all copies of it across to his phone and delete it from my computer, he only has to start with 1 loop ultrasonic each day and increase as necessary over time.

[Shannon]

Thanks shannon, i will send all copies of it across to his phone and delete it from my computer, he only has to start with 1 loop ultrasonic each day and increase as necessary over time.

He's not going to know what "as necessary" is.

[josh84]

How many loops should he run each day?

I might not be able to give it to him to his phone, it seems iphone 5 aernt easy to get files onto the phone from pc, i tried earlier connected by usb and all his phone did was constantly beep and wouldnt pick up the computer.

[Yous]

How many loops should he run each day?

I might not be able to give it to him to his phone, it seems iphone 5 aernt easy to get files onto the phone from pc, i tried earlier connected by usb and all his phone did was constantly beep and wouldnt pick up the computer.

Maybe with google drive, dropbox or similar?

[Shannon]

How many loops should he run each day?

I might not be able to give it to him to his phone, it seems iphone 5 aernt easy to get files onto the phone from pc, i tried earlier connected by usb and all his phone did was constantly beep and wouldnt pick up the computer.

Maybe with google drive, dropbox or similar?

If you do that, you will need to remove the files from whatever you used to transfer them.  The key here is that ownership must be definitively transferred, or it triggers the AP code.  To do that, you must remove all of your copies, and (at least in the beginning), all copies that exist must exist solely on a device owned primarily by the transferee.  You must also verbally tell them that you are transferring full ownership to them.

At that point, they unambiguously own that copy, and no AP code activates.  Then they can make backups on DopBox or whatever.

[Shannon]

How many loops should he run each day?

I might not be able to give it to him to his phone, it seems iphone 5 aernt easy to get files onto the phone from pc, i tried earlier connected by usb and all his phone did was constantly beep and wouldnt pick up the computer.

For someone who has never used a subliminal before, they will probably to best to start with one loop one day and take 7 days off to observe the bloom and fade.  They can then know how to adjust the usage patterns from there.  For example, I was overwhelmed by one loop for a couple days, but EvolvingPhoenix quickly discovered that he needed to basically carpet bomb his subconscious.

If the bloom is pronounced and it fades out at say day 5, then you would know that 1 loop is okay, and to let it bloom for 4 days.  If there is no noticeable bloom, then you need to start increasing loops and decreasing bloom days.